[mou-net] Withholding info on birds

2011-11-04 Thread Cheryl Burgmeier
I am fairly new to birding and I am finding this debate extremely educational. I definitely appreciate the answers to questions being posted to all to help me learn more. The information many of you post is common knowledge for you, but much of it is new to me. I also hope the experienced

[mou-net] [mou-rba] MOU RBA 4 November 2011

2011-11-04 Thread Anthony Hertzel
-RBA *Minnesota *Minnesota Statewide *November 4, 2011 *MNST.04 -Birds mentioned Tundra Swan Surf Scoter White-winged Scoter Black Scoter Long-tailed Duck Sandhill Crane Tropical Kingbird Scissor-tailed Flycatcher Scott's Oriole Gray-crowned Rosy-Finch -Transcript Hotline: Minnesota

[mou-net] [mou-rba] Duluth RBA 11/4/11

2011-11-04 Thread Jim Lind
-RBA *Minnesota *Duluth/North Shore *November 4, 2011 *MNDU.04 -Birds mentioned Surf Scoter White-winged Scoter Black Scoter Long-tailed Duck Thayer's Gull Glaucous Gull Great Black-backed Gull American Three-toed Woodpecker Black-backed Woodpecker Blue-headed Vireo Bohemian Waxwing

[mou-net] WW Scoter

2011-11-04 Thread Al Schirmacher
White-winged Scoter, Mille Lacs Lake, southwest side, pulloff across from Hillcrest house. Al Schirmacher Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Ethics and reporting

2011-11-04 Thread Frank Gosiak
When the major push of birds have gone through, and the straggling rares are being reported, it seems we come up with controversial subjects to fill in the gaps on the M.O.U.. Its been really interesting to read everyone’s approach to ethics and reporting, and I have gleaned much from all. I

[mou-net] Baiting Owls

2011-11-04 Thread Michael Hendrickson
The risk of baiting owls are always weighed against the rewards. There are so many negatives to owl baiting  which include endangering the birds, unfit or diseased food and that it seems obvious to me that it's not worth the risk. The use of live mice increases the chances for this illusion

[mou-net] posting debate

2011-11-04 Thread Michelle Hed
Hello, It has been extremely interesting reading the debate going on these last few days. I just wanted to pipe in and say that I am a 'newbie'. I lurked for a year before joining and contributing. I am also a nature photographer and I take pictures of all things in nature, not just birds. I

Re: [mou-net] My last reply.

2011-11-04 Thread Stefanie Moss
I guess this is one of those things that each individual will have to wrestle with. One of the problems I see with habituating owls is that they than become vulnerable. I'm sure everyone has seen road signs riddled with buckshot- the result of boredom and a gun I imagine. So imagine now a

[mou-net] Fwd: [mou-net] posting debate

2011-11-04 Thread Michelle Hed
- Forwarded Message - From: hedquart...@comcast.net To: Michael Hendrickson mlhendrick...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:56:07 PM Subject: Re: [mou-net] posting debate Mike - I did read what you posted. I also read everyone's responses and opinion and was responding to

[mou-net] Sherburne birds

2011-11-04 Thread Betsy Beneke
Lots of American tree sparrows around the refuge today.  Several northern shrikes are being seen along county roads in the area.  At the headquarters feeder there have been purple finches, American goldfinches, a fox sparrow and a rusty blackbird, along with the normal winter feeder birds. 

Re: [mou-net] My last reply.

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathon Jongsma
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 23:01 -0500, Fr. Paul Kammen wrote: I realize that baiting a bird is a debatable topic, but my opinion on that is if it is such a bad thing, or harmful to an owl, wouldn't the DNR make a law or regulation that says you can't do this? Surely you understand that there

[mou-net] Rusty Blackbirds

2011-11-04 Thread Holly Peirson
Today while taking my son to school, I saw 4 Rusty Blackbirds sitting at the top of an almost leafless poplar or aspen tree. Although the look was quick, I am calling them Rusty's because of their large size (as large as or larger than a robin), their plumpness, their lack of long tail --

[mou-net] Hawk Ridge this morning - with pictures

2011-11-04 Thread Erik Bruhnke
I visited Hawk Ridge for about two hours this morning, and did not see any raptors early in the day (between 9am and 11am). Raptor migration tends to be more focused in late morning and the early/mid afternoon hours as the raptor migration comes to a close in late November. There were some fun

[mou-net] Fwd: [mou-net] posting debate

2011-11-04 Thread Michelle Hed
Mike - When I say post your owl sightings - that includes the whole nine yards - type of owl, time of day, exact location, the color of your shoes or whatever other information the poster feels is relevant. I personally find just posting the owl seen and not the exact location a disappointment

[mou-net] Fwd: [mou-net] posting debate

2011-11-04 Thread Michelle Hed
Some of the formating in the personal email I received was lost. So I am reposting. - Forwarded Message - From: hedquart...@comcast.net To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 5:19:38 PM Subject: Fwd: [mou-net] posting debate Mike - When I say post your owl

Re: [mou-net] Use of the listserv for personal debate

2011-11-04 Thread Thomas Maiello
Thank you Sarah. It is sad to see this venue and valuable sharing disintegrate into folks just needing to be right. For the record, you are all right. Everyone of you. Every opinion is valid. Sharing it is appreciated and valued. If we could just cut it a little shorter, we could bypass the

Re: [mou-net] [mnbird] Robin in Excelsior

2011-11-04 Thread linda whyte
They'll over-winter here, if they can find open water, usually in springs, and food sources like crab-apple, wild grape, buckthorn berries, hackberries, etc. Huge flocks of them spend the winter along the Mississippi and Minnesota River bottoms. They're a regular winter fixture at Crosby park in

[mou-net] wow...had enough

2011-11-04 Thread Michael Hendrickson
i made a simple damn requst and all hell breaks loose and there are people in here who do not read what iam saying. i ask folks to refrain from sharing exact owl locations and some took that requst and think iam asking not to share all bird sightings,locations and information. lol did i say all

Re: [mou-net] wow...had enough

2011-11-04 Thread Victor Lewis
How do we find out about the sax zim birding festival? etc etc On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Michael Hendrickson mlhendrick...@yahoo.com wrote: i made a simple damn requst and all hell breaks loose and there are people in here who do not read what iam saying. i ask folks to refrain from

Re: [mou-net] Baiting Owls

2011-11-04 Thread Jesse Schabert
Mike, from your initial posting myself and I suspect many others saw where this would go, I think you probably knew as well. While I respect your opinion, and may agree or disagree with you, this is not an opinion forum, a forum for lecturing or a place to argue about anything really. I enjoy

Re: [mou-net] Baiting Owls

2011-11-04 Thread Anthony Hertzel
With regard to the recent discussion on posting the locations of winter owls (and all it has morphed into), the MOU Committee given the task of creating and maintaining this Listservice now insists that this particular thread be moved to private back channels. Anthony Hertzel MOU ECC member

Re: [mou-net] Baiting Owls

2011-11-04 Thread Terence Brashear
I would like to addforwarding private messages to the list is unacceptable. Private messages are just that - private. Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

Re: [mou-net] wow...had enough

2011-11-04 Thread Fr. Paul Kammen
On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 18:35:49 -0700, Michael Hendrickson mlhendrick...@yahoo.com wrote: i made a simple damn requst and all hell breaks loose and there are people in here who do not read what iam saying. i ask folks to refrain from sharing exact owl locations and some took that requst and think

[mou-net] Bass Ponds: Any recent visits?

2011-11-04 Thread Fr. Paul Kammen
I'm considering going to Bass Ponds tomorrow, and saw recent posts from last weekend, I believe a long billed dowitcher was seen down there and Wilson's Snipe. Just curious if anyone has seen them more recently or if someone might know if they are gone by now. Thanks, Fr. Paul Join or

Re: [mou-net] wow...had enough

2011-11-04 Thread Bill Kahn
Whatever my part in this divergence from whatever folks think this listserv is about, I've learned a great deal over the years from Michael and others, and re-evaluated my own practices in observing birds. I think that some of what I've done in seeking out bird observations over the years has