Re: [Mpls] How many transexuals?

2003-08-14 Thread David Strand
There are other places that do the variety of surgeries and provide therapy to individuals seeking the surgeries that are sought by some gender variant individuals including transexuals but you are correct in stating that the Program in Human Sexuality at the U of M campus is one of the larger such

Re: [Mpls] How many transexuals?

2003-08-14 Thread Elizabeth Greenbaum
and one works for my organization. She still has yet to go through the operation - has a way to go... Yes, and there are also a lot more handicapped parking spaces than often are actually used... What's your point? Liz Greenbaum Longfellow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [Mpls] How many transexuals?

2003-08-14 Thread Elizabeth Greenbaum
and one works for my organization. She still has yet to go through the operation - has a way to go... Yes, and there are also a lot more handicapped parking spaces than often are actually used... What's your point? Liz Greenbaum Longfellow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[Mpls] Paying the piper

2003-08-14 Thread mplsgordon2
Regarding Minneapolis' debt load: Wizard Marks wrote: >Paying those debts was doable had there not been such deep LGA cuts and had Ventura >not decided on tax rebates, etc.< Even without the LGA cuts, the debts had to be paid, and HALF of the tax increases we face will go to pay them. And most

[Mpls] How many transexuals?

2003-08-14 Thread mplsgordon2
Dyna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Given that the highest prevalence estimate for transsexualism is 1/10,000, >Minneapolis has at most about 20 persons with the appendage you describe using the >women's room.< You'd think that, unless you knew that the U Medical center is one of two places in th

Re: [Mpls] Re: Police Cut The Lines of Communication on NationalNight Out

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Johnson
Here is a link to MnDoT's web page about this radio system: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/oec/metro/metrofactsheet.html TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of

[Mpls] Re: Police Cut The Lines of Communication on National NightOut

2003-08-14 Thread Tim Bonham
Dyna has it right on this one! This new (allegedly) communications system is an absolute joke. They call it new, but the technology used is very dated, and has pretty much been replaced in the commercial world by better digital systems which are smaller, cheaper, faster, and offer much higher

[Mpls] National Night Out

2003-08-14 Thread basia
Many thanks to Luther Krueger of SAFE for sending the mounted patrol to Riverside Park. The horses and the officers were the highlight of the evening. The officers were gracious and informative, allowing all to pet and feed grass to their "4-legged partners". Many of the children had never touch

Re: [Mpls] Drugs;Adult Involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Dennis Plante
Michelle Writes: I was on a panel discussion yesterday on "Jordan melee--one year later" (for a City Pages article) and Tim Dolan stated that most of the busts they do for drugs in the city are for marijuana--MARIJUANA! I could not believe my ears--not crack, not heroine, not crystal meth--MAR

[Mpls] Deasha Hazley, Judges, and Guns

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Mork
This seems worth sharing. I was puzzled by the news story that said that Antonio Lamar Gail was convicted of illegal firearm possession and was waiting sentencing when he participated in the shooting that injured Deasha Hazlley. What follows is an explanation by the County Attorney's office of

[Mpls] Drugs;Adult Involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Mork
Drugs It was suggested that legalizing drugs would have no beneficial effect on crime. Two points: First, go and look at the graphs on national trends in violent crime. Note how the escalation of the War on Drugs coincides nicely with a ballistic takeoff in violent crime rates. Then answer t

Re: [Mpls] Gangs, Drugs and Patrols

2003-08-14 Thread j c harmon
The woman interviewed on television the other night, relative to the shooting of a toddler, had a nine-inch tattoo running up the side of her neck. MEN aren't the only gang members to worry about. Right after moving into the lovely Cleveland neighborhood, the nice young black woman across the s

[Mpls] Charging Suspects;Radio;Teleserve

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Mork
I'm scratching my head. Could they REALLY have solved this shooting this fast? Have they just grabbed two guys who deserve to be locked up and will be easy to convict? I guess time will tell. If they aren't the real killers, maybe the real ones will skulk off elsewhere, but maybe not. Kill

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Eduardo Parra
No, been here 17 years, went to see "How To Talk Minnesotan", love Garrison Keillor, loved Fargo. I was trying to be Minnesota Nice. Perhaps if I has used the words such as "cracker", "white trash" and the like, my analogy would have been more clear. Eduardo Parra Cleveland - Original Messag

Re: [Mpls] Mpls spending and LGA

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Bernstein
Just a few years ago, Minnesota had one of the half-dozen or so highest cigarette taxes in the U.S. Now we stand at about #30. Other states have hiked their cigarette taxes to expand their revenue base. Minnesota Republican legislators however, would rather starve public schools, lay off publ

Re: [Mpls] Bathrooms

2003-08-14 Thread David Strand
Thank you Scott for taking on this issue. This cleans up alot of messes that the ordinance was creating for transgender, transexual, intersex and other gender minority individuals in our community. Based on testimony from the disabled community at the hearing the other day, many disabled indivi

Re: [Mpls] Responds to own emails

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Snyder
Here's a question: Why is there this presumption that Mayor Rybak is obligated to respond to everything posted to the Issues Forum? Or any other local office holder, for that matter? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the oath of office that requires a Minneapolis politician

Re: [Mpls] Gangs, Drugs and Patrols

2003-08-14 Thread Thomas T. Thai (Mpls-Issues)
> The woman interviewed on television the other night, relative to the > shooting of a toddler, had a nine-inch tattoo running up the side of her > neck. MEN aren't the only gang members to worry about. Right after Just because someone has a 9" tattoo doesn't mean that person is a gang member. A

Re: [Mpls] Bathrooms " pull the curtin the farce is ended", or perhaps only beginning!

2003-08-14 Thread gemgram
I am glad to see at least some humor in this comedy and farce. In truth I would much rather go to the women's facility. Men are such smelly pigs, whereas women's facilities are usually much more sanitary. This information is based on a period of cleaning buildings many years ago, (not lurking in t

Re: [Mpls] Carol Johnson's Legacy/Forcing youth to emulate gangsta rap

2003-08-14 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 8/8/03 9:43:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Over 20% of African American students are diagnosed as having some type of Emotional-Behavioral Disorder and are assigned to special education programs. -Doug Mann, King Field >> Keith says

Re: [Mpls] Rybak Signs City Development Reform

2003-08-14 Thread David Strand
Did they collapse the environmental regulatory functions into this department? Were efforts to maintain those functions seperate from those charged with economic development successful or are other measures being considered to seperate out this function(environmental regulatory enforcement and revi

Re: [Mpls] Police Cut The Lines of Communication on National Night Out

2003-08-14 Thread Russell Sasaoka
Ok, just to play the other side, what kind of research do you have to back your argument? From what I understand, one of the main reasons for going to an 800 mhz digital system was to be able to communicate with State Patrol, Hennepin County and other departments that have moved to that system

[Mpls] city purchased security equipment

2003-08-14 Thread mplsgordon2
In a message dated 8/9/2003 4:49:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Peter T Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > the president of the cabdrivers association asked city leaders to subsidize > surveillance cameras for taxi cabs. Mayor Rybak evidently responded that public > money wouldn't be provided

Re: [Mpls] Protecting cabdrivers

2003-08-14 Thread Michelle Gross
These are great suggestions, some of which have been used successfully for some time in New York City and other locales. In fact, I believe it is a law in NYC that cabs must be outfitted with bulletproof glass panels. The foot-operated emergency button is also a great idea. If these measures

Re: [Mpls] Fwd: toxic dumping

2003-08-14 Thread anniey
COREECTION _ this dumping was on the Southside in the Phillips neighborhood. Annie Young East Phillips Quoting Annie Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >Subject: Fwd: toxic dumping, updates and other stuff > >X-pstn-levels: (C:83.1967 M:99.2571 P:95.9108 R:95.9108 S:36.0371 ) > >X-pstn-setti

[Mpls] DDT- mosquito control?

2003-08-14 Thread Sean Ryan
I am reviving the thread regarding spraying in the metro area in light of the editorial for the New York Times that was reprinted this moring in the Strib. How on earth could you seriously consider bringing back DDT, even if in "contolled amounts." With the legacy of Rachel Carson's "Silent S

Re: [Mpls] Responds to own emails

2003-08-14 Thread Peter T Schmitz
Mark Snyder: I've found I usually get answers to my questions for either the Mayor or my CM by asking them directly (politely helps too) and not by trying to shame them through a public forum. Peter Schmitz: On July 15 David Brauer, in a most polite and non-shaming manner, posed four questions

Re: [Mpls] Protecting cabdrivers

2003-08-14 Thread Nrussell
I know I'm not supposed to include the posting to which I'm responding, but I just like seeing it again. I found David's letter to be hysterically, satirically right on; of course it was over the edge in policitally correct dialogue, and oh, so powerful. (And I haven't really made up my mind a

Re: [Mpls] Bathrooms

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Atherton
Scott Benson wrote: > Wow, I never thought that moving seven words > ("for an illegal, immoral or unlawful purpose") > from the end of the bathroom ordinance to the > middle of the ordinance could possibly cause > such a stir. Interestingly, the solution may > be to abolish the ordinance put

[Mpls] Has toxic waste poisoned generations of public housing residents?

2003-08-14 Thread Booker Hodges
Has toxic waste poisoned generations of public housing residents? By: Booker T Hodges Minnesota Spokesman-Recorder Originally posted 8/7/2003 Imagine for a second that you are a 19-year-old woman and you have a two-month-old son. You, your son and your fiance move into a brand spanking new apartm

Re: Re: [Mpls] city purchased security equipment

2003-08-14 Thread Russell Sasaoka
I don't think it should be up to the city or state to provide such equipment. The state or city can require the companies to have them in their vehicles and have the companies pay for the equipment themselves. Especially now with the state and cities are cutting funds to the Police, Fire and P

Re: [Mpls] DDT- mosquito control?

2003-08-14 Thread Ethan Jewett
Well, I didn't much like the article in the Strib, but for different reasons than Sean. The question, in my mind, should be not "How can we even consider bringing back DDT?" (the article answers that question quite nicely), but rather "Is what the article claims actually true and if so, is its

Re: [Mpls] Subsidizing cabdrivers

2003-08-14 Thread Peter T Schmitz
Terrell writes: The cab drivers are independent business people, they own and lease their cabs. I don't think the city should be in the business of providing subsidies to businesses. Tragic as it is, we occasionally see > someone murdered while at work. Do we send subsidies to every type of busi

[Mpls] Nicollet / Franklin

2003-08-14 Thread Nick Kyle
Can anyone tell me about Nicollet / Franklin?  I'm interested in a condo that's being built there, but have major concerns about all the "programs" in the area.  What are the stats? Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

Re: [Mpls] city purchased security equipment

2003-08-14 Thread Michelle Gross
I happened to be downtown yesterday afternoon and talked with a some cabbies who are part of a leadership group that has been meeting with the city. Among their concerns are security equipment, of course, but also police services to cabbies. They told me that they get hassled by police and ti

Re: [Mpls] city purchased security equipment

2003-08-14 Thread N.I. Krasnov
Please don't tell me that government can't find $1,000,000 to protect the lives of cab drivers. Both the City and State can find justifications for direct and indirect subsidies for real estate, business development, and all sorts of social programs, but not for the lives of cab drivers? One

[Mpls] Fw: Protest Library Closures - date correction

2003-08-14 Thread md
All the libraries in Minneapolis will be closed from August 25 - September 1st, 2003.   - Original Message - From: md To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 9:56 PM Subject: Protest Library Closures   Does anyone have ideas or interest in protesting the week long clos

[Mpls] Mayor Rybak to Deliver Budget Address Thursday

2003-08-14 Thread Sether, Laura S
Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak will deliver his second budget address Thursday, August 14 at 3:00 p.m. in the City Council Chambers, Room 317 City Hall, 350 S. 4th St. The City's 2004 budget will be released at that time. The public is welcome and encouraged to attend. The address will be broadca

Re: [Mpls] Responds to own emails

2003-08-14 Thread Anderson & Turpin
Hey, nice post. I completely agree with you. Even politicians are people -- we can't expect them to be superhuman. They are busy too. And what benefit does it do them to enter this hornet's nest? I think there are dozens of politicians who monitor this List (or at least have a staff member do

[Mpls] HCMC. Bought, sold, otherwise?

2003-08-14 Thread David Finke
Has anyone else been following the governance re-examination initiated by the county board regarding Hennepin County Medical Center? I went to the public forum facilitated by HCMC Governance Task Force chair Irv Weiser and only four folks spoke. Two of which, although heartfelt, were significant

Re: [Mpls] city purchased security equipment-Cabs, Safety

2003-08-14 Thread David Strand
I worked as a temp at Hennepin County Violations Bureau eterring ticket and fine information. The tickets written to cabbies go and the city does seem to use violations by cab drivers as an income source. Fines under the statutes for cabbies often amounted to hundreds of dollars rather than tens

Re: [Mpls] Mpls spending and LGA

2003-08-14 Thread WizardMarks
Mark Anderson: Those retired people with expensive houses are consuming beyond their means. I guess I don't see it as the tragedy that others do when people have to downgrade their housing when their income declines. Property tax is a "voluntary" tax in the same sense that sales tax is, beca

[Mpls] Scott Benson vs. MN (whose) Family (is it anyway) Council

2003-08-14 Thread Terrell Brown
It must be getting slow for our state capitol lobbyists. Tom Prichard of the Family Council shows up on Channel 5 tonight attacking CM Scott Benson. Seems as CM Benson doesn't think we should be sending people to the workhouse for wandering into what Mr. Prichard thinks is the wrong restroom. Mr

Re: [Mpls] Blame where blame is due

2003-08-14 Thread WizardMarks
Second, the problems with library funding stem from the same source as fire and police funding--we spent too much money that we didn't really have in the 1990's. That's a City government problem, not a state funding problem. WM: I don't think so. Two big, noticable events--Ventura "giving back"

[Mpls] Drugs, repeat offenders, a reasonable solution

2003-08-14 Thread basia
I was not surprised to see that the last few child murderers were repeat, and sometimes wanted felons with warrants. Isn't it scary how easy it is for criminals to get a gun, but the law abiding have to jump through (thankfully) hoops? The 3 times and you are in jail for life sounds like a great i

Re: [Mpls] Sabo Named 2002 Noise Legislator of the Year

2003-08-14 Thread j c harmon
Are you sure you didn't mean to say Noisiest? How many deaths have been a direct result of airport noise? Not nearly as many as a stray bullet I wouldn't think. And wasn't the airport there FIRST? Doesn't that sort of give them 'dibs'? While south siders are whining about nuisances such as airpor

[Mpls] Re: Mpls digest, Vol 1 #1644 - 22 msgs

2003-08-14 Thread timothy connolly
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send Mpls mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [Mpls] List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Peter Jessen
Allysen Hoberg wrote: "Without a true discussion of racism and power dymnamics in this city this thread should be done." PJJ: I agree on the need for including the topic of racism and power dynamics in the discussions, especially as they relate to the inner city. One example is Ron's unfolding

Re: [Mpls] Scott Benson vs. There is a man in my soap.

2003-08-14 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 8/12/03 10:38:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I had a feeling this legislation was a bit too broadly written and would provide fodder for Mr. Pritchard and the talk shows. What the proposed amendment does is change our city's criminal code to allow

[Mpls] Theater Sign & Seats

2003-08-14 Thread Tetzlaff, Bill
The MCDA has stored at Grain Belt in one of its buildings that is soon to be demolished the following items: 1. Franklin Theater sign. Two or three years ago during renovation of the former Franklin Theater the sign was removed & was to be hauled away. The redeveloper contacted us to ask if we wan

Re: [Mpls] Bathrooms

2003-08-14 Thread Ron Lischeid
Maybe we should do like we used to down on the farm: -Men go outside -Women go inside -Uni-sex corn cobs or catalog pages for all (I'll bet Jim Graham remembers those days as well) Ron Lischeid Windom From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mpls] Bathrooms Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 08

Re: [Mpls] 'It's getting really scary' in Phillips neighborhood

2003-08-14 Thread Barbara Lickness
It will be interesting to determine once the people who did these are apprehended just how many arrest they each had prior to commiting these crimes.  If people are wondering what they can do to help, they can send a check to East Phillips Improvement Coalition so they can expand the "off duty" pol

[Mpls] List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Allysen Hoberg
Susan wrote: I had this conversation offlist, it occurred to me I should have it onlist too. Yes, calling someone a white bitch is racist. My husband had a good reply. When threatened and called "White Boy," he shot back, "That's MISTER White Boy to you." Susan Maricle formerly of Folwell In resp

[Mpls] See an hear this MPR report!

2003-08-14 Thread GarySimmbo
Fellow list members: Amidst all of the awful things that happen in the world, here is a link to a report that I hope will encourage aqnd inspire, or at least make your day brighter.  Her's the link: http://news.mpr.org/features/2003/07/16_olsond_enthusiasts/  MPR reporter Dan Olson called me a

[Mpls] Mayor Rybak delivers second budget address

2003-08-14 Thread Rybak, R.T.
Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak today delivered his second annual budget address and presented his 2004 City budget to the City Council. "There's light at the end of the tunnel." Mayor Rybak said. "We have to sustain the cuts we made earlier this year in response to state aid cuts, but the good ne

Re: [Mpls] List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Thomas T. Thai
> In a message dated 8/12/2003 2:51:17 PM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In my opinion, racism (the belief system) is consciously promoted in > order to justify race-based discrimination and "colorblind" > discrimination that generally gives whites privileged access to > ed

RE: [Mpls] What About the Other Sabri Supporters?

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Welling
ZippinZack wrote: It is not whether or not Peter McClaughlin likes Basim Sabri or not, it is about him supporting a developer who has successfully changed a neglected, downridden, drug dealing, prostitution filled area of east Lake St. into a booming economic area that is now, inviting for othe

[Mpls] Supreme Court: city owes LGSI victims $7 million

2003-08-14 Thread List Manager
Reinstates mega-award overturned by the state court of Appeals. Perhaps out of appeals, the city now has to find $7 million more despite ongoing cuts... http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4043015.html David Brauer List manager TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flam

Re: [Mpls] Family of 20 month old girl shot goes homeless.

2003-08-14 Thread Thomas T. Thai (Mpls-Issues)
> I also wanted to add that as far as I have been able to ascertain, baby > in question has not expired, though there seems to be very little > information being released regarding her condition. Andrea Jenkins Thank you for pointing that out. My apologies to the little girl's family for not havi

Re: [Mpls] Intergrated Education.

2003-08-14 Thread N.I. Krasnov
Barbara Lickness wrote: What we should have done in the 70's and should be doing now is providing affordable housing in ALL neighborhoods in Minneapolis and the inner and outer ring suburbs so that we can achieve real desegregation and not the fantasy that exists now. Instead of concentrati

Re: [Mpls] Family of 20 month old girl shot goes homeless.

2003-08-14 Thread Jenkins, Andrea D
I also wanted to add that as far as I have been able to ascertain, baby in question has not expired, though there seems to be very little information being released regarding her condition. Andrea Jenkins 8th Ward Policy Aide City Council-Minneapolis (612)673-2208 -Original Message- Fro

[Mpls] (no subject)

2003-08-14 Thread Jenkins, Andrea D
Thomas Thai wrote How did Hazley's unfortunate death cause her entire family to become homeless? In addition to Ms. Wizard Marks remaks , when a family is living on the margins, any small interruption in the pattern can create a major catastrophy. The mother most likely was not able to work, cau

[Mpls] Family of 20 month old girl shot goes homeless.

2003-08-14 Thread Booker Hodges
Oasis of Love and MADDADS presents... A Community Fundraiser for Hazley Family Friday, August 15th 2003 4pm to 6pm at 30th and Emerson Avenue Please make all checks payable to : April Hatcher (Deasha's mother) The Hazley family is homeless due to a violent incident that caused baby Deasha, 20

Re: [Mpls] List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread N.I. Krasnov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Employers who advertise themselves as Equal Opportunity Employers are typically required by law to have an affirmative action program. Can you cite the exact statute? N.I. Krasnov Loring Park TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If

Re: [Mpls] Family of 20 month old girl shot goes homeless.

2003-08-14 Thread Thomas T. Thai (Mpls-Issues)
> The Hazley family is homeless due to a violent incident that caused baby > Deasha, 20 months old, to be shot at 2706 Girard Avenue North I have my own child. I can't imagine ever losing her. I lost a sister when I was very young and have seen death around me. I am familiar with death and i

Re: [Mpls] Family of 20 month old girl shot goes homeless.

2003-08-14 Thread WizardMarks
Thomas T. Thai (Mpls-Issues) wrote: How did Hazley's unfortunate death cause her entire family to become homeless? WM: I spoke to MADDADS last night who said the family just cannot make itself go back to that house. They would rather live in their car than be in that building. I'd probably feel

Re: [Mpls] Integrated Education.

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Atherton
Barb Lickness wrote: > The biggest problem with the integrated educational system > is that we used the wrong policies to desegregate the schools > in the 1960's and 70's. We thought it was just fine to pluck > children of color from segregated concentrated neighborhoods > and ship them all ov

[Mpls] Blame where blame is due

2003-08-14 Thread mplsgordon2
Jim Mork writes: >Anyone who wants to protest library cuts should take their protests to the offices or >homes of Tim Pawlenty, Pat Awada and Steve Sviggum. Those are the people made >certain that we would have cuts in library service.< Ah, sorry, I don't think so. First, Pat Awada is the stat

Re: [Mpls] Bathrooms

2003-08-14 Thread Terrell Brown
Council Member Benson writes: Perhaps our intrepid reporters and the Minnesota Family Council who have created this "unisex bathroom" hysteria could go on a fact finding mission to see whether bathroom anarchy is a problem throughout the rest of the State and report back to us before we take thi

Re: [Mpls] Subsidies;Cab Co.s & Rates; Library Protests

2003-08-14 Thread N.I. Krasnov
Jim Mork wrote: Subsidies: I agree with Peter Schmitz. So long as financial constraints deprive us of full police and fire protection, there should be NO money spent on aid to the private sector. That includes lots of things we'd LIKE to do, but if we can't afford public safety, I'm sorry Mr.

Re: [Mpls] DDT- mosquito control?

2003-08-14 Thread Conor Donnelly
When I was a little kid running around south minneapolis twenty years ago, I remember helicopters flying low, and misting over the neighborhood with some kind of spray. Us kids figured they were spraying for mosquitos, and we'd cover up our pop cans, hold our breath and keep playing. Am I remem

RE: [Mpls] 'It's getting really scary' in Phillips neighborhood

2003-08-14 Thread Jenny Heiser
As an East Phillips resident I want to thank Barb for her great suggestion. In addition, this coming Saturday (Aug. 16th) at 6pm at East Phillips Park, there will be an East Phillips community rally and vigil. Your presence as a show of support at this event would be most welcome. Andre Alexander

Re: [Mpls] Cameras;Prevention;Budget;Crime Report

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Johnson
Jim Mork wrote: Budget As I recall, when Ventura wanted to make a big political point, the DFL told him that he was putting Minnesota at risk. But all Ventura could see was endless surpluses, so he pushed for the maximum return of the surplus. How anyone can twist that into "overspending" is

[Mpls] Protecting cabdrivers

2003-08-14 Thread N.I. Krasnov
Outfit every cab as follows: 1. Bullet proof partition covering the height and width of the cab, with a fare and change access slot on the right side of the partition; 2. Install a strobe light on the roof; 3. Install a discrete foot switch to manually operate the roof strobe. Wire the electric

Re: [Mpls] Gangs, Drugs and Patrols

2003-08-14 Thread List Manager
> I can't believe the list manager is allowing this type of incendiary language > to be posted on this site. This is purely racist and insensitive , and the > primary reason African Americans, and other Persons of Color rarely > participate in this list. I'm totally appalled!!! > Andrea Jenkins > 8

Re: [Mpls] Blame where blame is due

2003-08-14 Thread Jason C Stone
That was Happy to Pay for a Better Minnesota http://www.betterminnesota.org, not to be confused (egad) with http://www.betterminnesota.com. Regards, Jason Stone | Hale --- WizardMarks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WM: There was many a sign in Minneapolis yards saying something to the > effect t

Re: [Mpls] Intergrated Education.

2003-08-14 Thread WizardMarks
Barbara Lickness wrote: The biggest problem with the integrated educational system is that we used the wrong policies to desegregate the schools in the 1960's and 70's. We thought it was just fine to pluck children of color from segregated concentrated neighborhoods and ship them all over town

[Mpls] legalize marijuana - cure society's ills

2003-08-14 Thread Wendy Introwitz
Certainly, legalizing marijuana will not cure all of our society's woes, but it will remove pot smokers from the vicinity of drug thugs who want to make even more money by introducing them to harder stuff. While it won't cure all of society's ills, decriminalization of marijuana will at least cure

Re: [Mpls] Re: List Management, Racism, re-introduction - follow-up

2003-08-14 Thread J. Free
Quite the contrary - I referred to the manner in which the term was used, which was not a statement originally made by Susan Miracle herself. She was simply being the messenger, in this case, of a statement which was made - not by her - and the purpose of which could have only been regarded as a h

[Mpls] Minneapolis Records 30th Homicide

2003-08-14 Thread Shawn Lewis
Minneapolis Records 30th Homicide Minneapolis police are investigating their 30th homicide of the year. Authorities say 19-year-old Charles Lake Junior was found shot to death inside a vehicle in a yard on Irving Avenue before dawn. Police were called to the location about 3:20 a-m after g

[Mpls] Protest Library Closures

2003-08-14 Thread md
Does anyone have ideas or interest in protesting the week long closure  from August 15-Sept 1, 2003 of all the libraries in Minneapolis?   Some form of protest seems necessary...   pickets?   read-ins?   puppets from In the Heart of the Beast?   What can we do to make the point that a week witho

[Mpls] Steve Brandt is the enemy of hyperbole

2003-08-14 Thread Ed Felien
Yesterday, Steve Brandt corrected my assertion that Basim Sabri had not used any government money in his rehab of buildings from 2nd Avenue to 5th Avenue on Lake Street. Of course, Brandt is right. But it should be noted that Sabri did not seek the two grants that totaled $85,000. When Sabri was

[Mpls] Sabo Named 2002 NOISE Legislator of the Year

2003-08-14 Thread Bensonale
Sabo Named 2002 NOISE Legislator of the Year Sabo Recognized for Noise Mitigation Work Surrounding MSP Washington, D.C. -- Congressman Martin Olav Sabo (DFL-Mpls.) today was awarded the 2002 NOISE (National Organization to Insure a Sound-controlled Environment) Legislator of the Year award for

Fw: [Mpls] Re: List Management, Racism, re-introduction - follow-up

2003-08-14 Thread J. Free
Actually, Susan Maricle and Britt Robson are the only two people who have mis-interpreted what I said, thank heavens, or at least the only two who have contacted me. Again, as I explained on-list, I NEVER called anyone a "spreader of racism". I simply referred to a statement which had been made,

[Mpls] 'It's getting really scary' in Phillips neighborhood

2003-08-14 Thread Shawn Lewis
'It's getting really scary' in Phillips neighborhood Jim Adams and David Chanen, Star Tribune Published August 13, 2003 After helping patrol their south Minneapolis neighborhood for more than a year, Brad and Carol Pass and other residents thought things were getting better in their corne

[Mpls] Cameras;Cab Safety

2003-08-14 Thread Jim Mork
Cameras As a taxpayer, I'm not backing down on this. Why not cameras in public places where the malefactors commit crimes in broad daylight? That is a matter of life and death, too. This is ONE killing. How about the other 29? It seems to me that the cab drivers can take action on their own

[Mpls] list management and racism

2003-08-14 Thread basia
It is all about criminal behavior, not race. TEMPORARY REMINDER: 1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious flame-bait. 2. If you don't like what's being discussed here, don't complain - change the subject (Mpls-specific, of course.) Minneapolis Issues Forum - A C

Re: [Mpls] Sabo Named 2002 Noise Legislator of the Year - Some Southsiders also need to dodge!

2003-08-14 Thread gemgram
Please Jill, do not lump all Southsiders together. Some of us are also in neighborhoods where you have to dodge bullets. Eric, a really cool person who had beaten chemical addiction and Franklin Avenue to live in the neighborhood after living in a cardboard box in the Ventura Village Neighborhood

Re: [Mpls] Scott Benson vs. There is a man in my soap.

2003-08-14 Thread Dyna
On Wednesday, August 13, 2003, at 10:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith says; Scott Benson says it is reasonable to change the law to enable one or two, twenty or two hundred, honorable and sincere persons with penises to enter, be on premises, and utilize a women's restroom. Given that the

[Mpls] Man dies in apparent Minneapolis shooting

2003-08-14 Thread Shawn Lewis
Man dies in apparent Minneapolis shooting Terry Collins, Star Tribune Published August 12, 2003 F A man was killed in an apparent shooting in south Minneapolis late Monday. Police responded to a call about a man lying on the sidewalk on 17th Av. S. between 29th and Lake Streets in Minneap

Re: [Mpls] Gangs, Drugs and Patrols

2003-08-14 Thread gemgram
Mark Wilde seems to have taken lessons on "gangs" from J. Edgar or former Chief Boaza. He seems to be denying they exist! Other than as a means to allow Police to define only "poor inner city black men." I do think the term is used for a great deal more than just inner city black men. There are

Re: Racist and Insensitive - RE: [Mpls] Gangs, Drugs and Patrols

2003-08-14 Thread Jason C Stone
Perhaps insensitive, not racist... When I speak Spanish, I do my best to emulate the accent, rhythms and slang (modismos) that I have learned from listening and watching. However, if it was subject to perception, right or wrong, of me being racist I would probably not try to speak Spanish at

[Mpls] This Week in The Minneapolis Observer

2003-08-14 Thread Craig Cox
T H E M I N N E A P O L I S O B S E R V E R A Weekly Digest of All Things Minneapolitan www.mplsobserver.com Vol. 3, No. 2 August 11, 2003 To subscribe ($12/yr.), hit 'reply' and we'll set you up. Thanks. ** THIS WEEK IN THE OBSERVER: * R

RE: [Mpls] Unintended consequences

2003-08-14 Thread Joseph Barisonzi
Michelle, Some initial thoughts about your comments: 1. The troopers will not be familiar with the neighborhood. This is true. This is why the State Patrol will under the command of the local inspector and will be teamed up with a local law enforcement officer. My understanding from Inspector Do

Re: [Mpls] Judges and jails

2003-08-14 Thread Dennis Plante
Dennis Plante Responds: Apparently I can't see the forrest through the trees... Exactly who ARE the RIGHT people to send to jail??? I'd like to know.. The young children (in my neighborhood) that are afraid to go to the store (at the corner) would like to know.. Even the tax-paying, hard-wo

Re: [Mpls] Pawlenty sends troops to N. Minneapolis

2003-08-14 Thread Barbara Lickness
I was told this morning by a person who has been working closely with this initiative that they are not planning on flying the helicopters over our houses this time. I was also told that in addition to the state police, they have added the services of the state gang strike force. This is an impor

[Mpls] Responds to own emails

2003-08-14 Thread Rybak, R.T.
A question was raised about whether I respond to my own emails. The answer is yes with some details: I don't have a chance to read all of them...I see them when I have a minute, some people on my staff help direct others. I do like emails a lot because it lets people go into detail, let's

Re: [Mpls] Who would scandalize my name?

2003-08-14 Thread Chris Johnson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Felien Dear Friends, I have been out of town for the last few weeks. I was sorry to see on my return that some of my friends have had so little to do in my absence they have spent great energy speculating about my character (or lac

Re: [Mpls] Gang, Drugs, Patrols, Ebonics, List Management, Racism

2003-08-14 Thread Susan Maricle
--- Jim Bernstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not racist to describe someone using their > color as an adjective SAM: I've heard it both ways, it is and it isn't. I look at it this way. Say you're being tailgated by a white driver, then further up the road you're being tailgated by a black

[Mpls] Open Letter to the NAACP & Community Alert

2003-08-14 Thread Socialist2001
Open Letter to the CEO and Board of Directors of the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) August 6, 2003 On June 28, 2003 a two-thirds majority of active members of the Minneapolis NAACP branch passed a motion to instruct the branch president to take no steps towar

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