.
Can you still order drinks in the restaurant without going
into the bar?
I hope that now the Minneapolis City Council will consider
allowing its citizens a choice as well.
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I believe that we should be #1 nationally in football.
To meet this goal we need a new stadium. To finance
a new stadium every citizen in Minneapolis should
contribute an additional $500 in taxes annually.
Let's make Minneapolis Number 1!
Irony and sarcasm should be noted.
Michael Ath
Bob Spaulding responded:
> Michael Atherton asked:
>
> > Why force everyone else to met your needs?
>
> Right back at you, Michael.
Sorry, but it's the ban augments that have the contradictions.
> Why should many among us put up with the gut-level emotional
>
d deprogrammed?
Why force everyone else to met your needs?
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you hold this position because nothing you
have *chosen* to do, good or bad, is likely to be the
subject of a ban anything school. I love how you've
decided that it's now time for me to reinvent myself.
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protect the 80% majority of non-smokers from the
> unhealthy effects of second-hand smoke. Smoking in public
> places is that which takes choice away, not the other way around.
A large percentage of the 80% majority of non-smokers never set foot
in many of the places that the smoking ban effect
e will explain why these
suggestions won't work. ;-) But, I can analyze and
explain execute all of them successfully given a
specific situation.
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BTW, why are these threads so focused on teachers' needs,
rather than students and achievement?
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Seth Kirk wrote:
> I only voted for the most recent referendum, but I know for certain
> that the actual ballots contained no wording about class size. The
> ballot language only described the technical detail of the tax
> increase. The referendum campaign talked about specific class size,
has always
been my contention that class sizes are more important for
the numbers of union members that they result in and not
how they benefit students. Voters should think twice
before once again accepting an increase in funding that
does not increase student achievement and also fails to
reduce
what it's about! Ack.
Thanks,
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jared Chester
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 8:13 AM
> To: mpls@mnforum.org
> Subject: [Mpls] FYI
>
>
State ban hunting
so that I will be safe to hike anywhere in public. Clearly
hunting is a public health hazard. Recently, several hunters
(not to mention regular citizens), have been killing by their
own hunting parties. To protect the public from secondhand
bullets we need to ban all hunting!
o have your own analysis validated by
a national study. :-) So how long is it going to
take before we see any improvement in the MPS?
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Chris Johnson wrote:
> Election day should be a national holiday.
Then everyone can be out of town on election
day. Why don't we make the 4th of July election
day? It'd be patriotic.
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2. Don't feed the troll! Ignore
ee is usually what they want
you to see.
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case where personal freedoms run up
> against public health, it's going to be public health that wins,
> and rightly so.
I would hope that *reasonable* folks would *realize* that there
are serious flaws in Mr. Snyder's argument and that valid
conclusions do not follow from false p
McCarthyism. Communists are evil, let's get on with
it. Smokers are evil, we've got a ban there's no point in
discussing it further. I don't think so and I will continue
to argue for the rights of individuals to make their own
independent choices.
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t the rights
of everyone to decide for themselves?
I'll try once more, consider the establishment in this
photo (http://www.umn.edu/~athe0007/Amsterdam.jpg).
This is a coffee shop in the red light district of Amsterdam.
If you enlarge it enough you might be able to see the marijuana
plants
position you hold
is untenable and intellectually corrupt.
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I say they are compromised and
in need of revision.
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David Strand wrote:
> Michael Atherton asks:
> "Not that I don't have sympathy for people with
> asthma, but what is the comparative percentage of
> asthma sufferers who will frequent bars compared to
> the percentage of smokers? "
>
> I don't kno
oyable if we allow people to make
their own choice of vices (public or not).
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nough yet?
If Ms. Hakeem has something to say to us, I think
she should say it.
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Farheen Hakeem wrote:
[snip]
> So do want to know my opinion about this? Maybe you should
> come to the debate and maybe I'll make a statement.
>
> Gosh, I am such a tease!
Teasing is not an attribute that I look for in
mayoral candidates. I much prefer directness
and
r special about the home schooling movement
> in Minneapolis?
All of the advantages the rest of us share living in the city. :-)
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largest experiments in
Marxism have failed. Perhaps you could give an example
of a society that successful equalized class levels and
incomes?
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who does not want to be exposed to secondhand smoke has other
entertainment choices and no need to limit the choices of other
people.
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ars and restaurants because you think it's morally
offensive or you can allow people to choose not to frequent
places where it is played. The latter option allows people
who enjoy Mariachi music to have some places to go and
hear it.
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in poverty together! Equal incomes
for all! God bless Minneapolis.
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OR:
National Home Education Research Institute. [you can access a summary
of this report at:
http://www.hslda.org/research/ray2003/HomeschoolingGrowsUp.pdf]
If anyone would like to engage in a how and why discussion of
homeschooling in Minneapolis I'd be happy to.
Michael Athe
Bill Kahn wrote:
> The bias suggested by Michael Atherton is ridiculous. I
> simply responded to his request for good Mexican restaurants
> in S. Minneapolis with Mariachi music on weekends.
Mr. Kahn said, "...the underlying themes in most Mariachi
music are not ve
i
music given that they are not yet fluent in Spanish. :-|
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t Mexico and
thought it would be fun for them to hear a Mariachi
band (not to mention getting to try out a new restaurant),
but then Mr. Kahn doesn't think very much of
homeschooling either. :-|
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r in the Metro is El Taquito Taco
Shop Inc in West St. Paul. Is there anyone in the List
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with a similar style of cooking?
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Is there a Mexican restaurant in Minneapolis where
you can go to hear Mariachi music on weekends?
Also, after randomly driving around S Mpls looking
for an excellent (central Mexican) taco/burrito
takeout place and not finding one, can anyone offer
a suggestion?
Thanks in advance,
Michael
nge of values. The recently released results for now
> focus on four "process" values: Opportunity, Accountability, Prosperity
> and Fair Play.
If this is the best the DFL can do, then I think they're blind
to what many Americans are hoping to see in a political party.
Michael
9. Generous
10. Respectful
11. Law abiding
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conditional,
even for adults.
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top. Who buys that disgusting stuff anyway? ;-)
If Councilmember Samuels did call someone a pornographer
I think he owes them an apology.
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of the issues. I hope that Mr. Hohmann will consider running
for a citywide office in the future so that I can have a
chance to vote for him.
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Board only benefits the existing DFL's backroom.
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> In a message dated 9/23/2005 "Michael Atherton" wrote,
>
> > Just for the sake of fairness, before calling for Mr. Hefflefinger's
> > resignation, shouldn't we ask Mr. Zimmermann to make a public
> > declaration of his
nt to join. Don't miss this opportunity
to become a founding member! :-) You don't need
to be a resident of Prospect Park to join.
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events?
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Biernat hand in the
cookie jar attitude, "Why me? Why can't I end up with
a great cooperate job after I leave office?"
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to look like one giant sleaze ball.
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Mr. Mann doesn't watch The Sopranos. ;-)
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Jim Graham wrote:
> One of the few times I have to agree with Michael Atherton.
Actually, Mr. Graham and I still disagree. While Mr. Graham
appears to only be concerned with the indiscretion of one
"green" politician, I am concerned about the ethical pitfalls
of the entire syst
with no paper
records. We're not talking about a random contributor,
but someone with business outcomes impacted by council
decisions. The fact that such contributions are even
legal should be an embarrassment to the city of Minneapolis.
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hink this is -really- crazy. And people think that the
FBI is just blowing smoke rings. Whoa. How are they suppose
to tell the difference between collusion and contribution?
When it shows up on the contributor list? Well, apparently
they didn't show on Councilmember Zimmerman's.
Micha
there was no room
for misinterpretation. Why not just ask them to put a stamp
on it and send it in to your campaign?
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OPPS! Right! Sorry, my mistake. Misread the map.
Thanks Loki. Well, that's also interesting given that
it's Cam Gordon's neighborhood. Right? Goes to show
what can go wrong when you rush things. Ack.
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From: Loki Anderson [mailto:[
he Mayor's
personal promise to help. Power to those who vote!
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ests. So I'm a conservative
voting for a Green. I hope that my vote will help clean up
the stagnant political quagmire that Minneapolis has become,
but looking across the candidates I see only isolated
possibilities for change. May God (or the FBI) help us all.
Michael Atherton
ss, I think he deserves
our respect for being willing to speak to us directly.
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f Mr. Zimmerman is
guilty the Party can always claim that they took the higher
moral ground.
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something about it people accuse
them of being biased! Have you ever wondered why no Republicans
in Minneapolis have been changed with corruption? It's not
because the FBI is biased against Greens and the DFL, it's because
there are no Republicans on the council!
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Regardless, I'm reserving judgment until Mr. Zimmerman has
his day in court. However, I'm afraid that Mr. Mann's reasoning is
not prudent or reasonable and is uncharacteristic of the performance
that I would expect of a city councilmember. I had more
respect for Candidate Mann whe
whether to hold off until after the election and
then have decided that it was in the interests of an informed
electorate that they should proceed with their investigation
(not to mention that they might have compromised their case by
waiting).
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action is more important than moral philosophy." Within the
context of Lakoff's rationality this koan makes no sense,
but in truth no amount of liberal word waving vacates the
semantics of individual moral responsibility.
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by failing to quote what
others have said. I made no presumptions of innocence or guilt.
I was making a point about the moral dangers of unconditional
loyalty.
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m just astounded
that someone be so quick to rush to judgment
without any evidence, regardless of whether
it's evidence of guilt or innocence.
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> No matter what it is a sad day for Minneapolis.
Again.
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past loyalties. I think that who you chose brakes along the
edges of commitment to Old Labor (as can be evidenced by the
Police Federation recommendation) support for the pork barrel NRP program,
and "hope" for a more progressive and farsighted DFL.
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RE
listen to
his recommendation. I think his communication is one that
could have benefited greatly from the "sleep on it" rule.
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h they were required to follow
through on a citizen's arrest. Also, I think that it's
unlikely that they would incarcerate anyone based on a
misdemeanor citizen's arrest. Could this situation been
handled better? It would seem so, but it would have
depended on now busy a night it
Peebles, this is DEFINITELY not
proof of her effectiveness. I could as easily claim that
the improvement in test scores is due to NCLB.
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As if being mayor would be any different?
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ow to protect
yourself at ATMs and what to do if your car breaks down
on the freeway.
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I find this constant harassment strategy to be offensive.
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use I don't think that people are willing to make
the necessary sacrifices to provide an equality of opportunities.
Would equality of educational opportunity eliminate crime and
poverty? No, of course not, but it would reduce their pervasiveness.
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lack
humor).
And, I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with a mayoral candidate
asking rhetorical questions like this when the answers
are so obvious. I guess it might have something to do
with being the 23rd most liberal city in America. ;-)
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> of previously expressed opinion.
The fact that there is movement (on the county board) is the reason
this issue has flared up again (pun intended). Your Delete Key is
located in the upper right side of your keyboard. What bore
that do spit, they don't swallow.
Maybe we should force everyone who currently drinks (and
swallows) in public to do it at home, that'd really make
the bar and restaurant industry happy. Unbelievable.
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Michael Atherton had written:
> At most, your argument would require the isolation of smokers,
> not the prohibition of smoking. As I have pointed out many
> times previously: Vancouver, B.C. has required the construction
> of smoking rooms by bars that want to allow patrons to sm
Jim Bernstein wrote:
> To quote Michael Atherton: ". . . which is why I spend so much time
> defending the rights of others to make their own choices as long as
> they don't inflict their choices on other people."
>
> Smoking in enclosed public spaces is a near p
oup of people
who did and were successful in getting it banned, using many of
the same reasons to justify the smoking ban. The power to
force your values on others, when their behavior has no direct
impact, allows the same type of impositions on you.
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they don't inflict their choices on other people).
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should try traveling in Europe.
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do Mr. Belton's loyalties lie? With the staff?
With the teachers? With the DFL? Whose loyalties
lie with the students?
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successful and increasing the rate of organizational change
may result in significant progress at this point in time.
It's certainly reasonable to conclude that the MPS haven't made
much progress with the currently staff in the last ten years.
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#x27;s job was not renewed, and he may leave the
> district soon, School Board members say.
>
> Not in your paper this a.m., but online at:
> http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5481956.html
And here's another surefire way to obstruct reform:
Don't allow the superintendent
y are for Blacks, although
they will probably not be as good as those for Whites. Once
again, the point of my argument is that the seniority system
results in poorer educational opportunities for African
American students and I think that the numbers clearly show
that it does. Can we please stay on the
ty. And there is no need to fail. As
an individual I can come up with any number of possible solutions,
none of which will be entirely pleasant for teachers, but so what.
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Drawn from the DOE website:
WhiteBlack Years of Exp
tly, the Tribune already did a story about
this problem. When discussing this type of issues it is
important to look at the numbers. Perhaps someone from the
MPS can provide us with a breakdown by school or by race
matched with years of teaching experience? Don't hold your
breath.
Michae
sonal self-interests over the
needs of students by perpetuating a seniority system that assigns
the least experienced teachers to the students in the greatest
need and secondly, they continue to use instructional methods
and practices that rely on unexamined and unverified philosophical
assumption
hat teachers
are as much a part of the problem as they are a part of the
solution. Dedication to ineffective and discriminatory
practices is obstructive not progressive.
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are requiring mandatory tutorial programs before students go on to the
next grade. This has been a direct result of NCLB. If you thought that
the answer was focused summer programs that students didn't attend,
why did the MPS continue to move students onto the next grade even
though they hadn
uspicion that the MPS use additional tests just for CYA. NCLB
left the details of test design up to the States (a big mistake in
my opinion), so the content and type of test is flexible.
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> All the other tests are the District's
> idea ...
Opps, sorry! I should have said the District's
or the State's idea.
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> Michael Atherton writes:
>
> > The fact that the District hasn't
> > modified and consolidated their tests to conform
> > with NCLB is their responsibility.
>
David Brauer wrote:
>
> Can you explain more about this?
"NCLB requires testing o
hat
makes testing disruptive. There was testing before NCLB
and the law itself only requires that the states do
testing at most grade levels and include all students.
The type of test and testing standards are left up to
individual states. The fact that the District hasn't
modified an
e surprised if scores
rise. The question should be whether the scores at
schools where Dr. Peebles was directly involved improved
over and above those at similar schools in the Metro.
I haven't seen that analysis yet. If such an analysis
does show a significant difference, then the Bo
bles I'd stay the course (assuming
that she believes it's best) and then take the money and run after
the Board fires her (which was foolish to write in such a
generous termination clause). There'll always be another school
district that will hire her.
Michael Atherton
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