Folks - sorry - attempts to make this thread local aren't working. Unless
there are more Minneapolis-specific school (or school-shopping) experiences,
this really has become a debate about general educational philosophy, and
not Minneapolis-specific issues.
Consider this the stop sign. I think the
On Sep 17, 2004, at 9:51 AM, Michael Atherton wrote:
You answer the survey and I'll answer your
questions. I think that's fair.
1. Literacy
2. Critical Thinking
3. Math
4. Science
5. Arts
Assume that this is a forced choice survey and you cannot
rank topics on the same level. Please feel free t
The point is they all go hand-in-hand. I would think it would be the
downfall of any school to emphaise one subject over all others -
particularly at the elementary level . I don't think any of us were
saying that, nor were we saying it's happening in the public schools
with the exception of Mi
Jon,
Most people are not bothered that art and music are taught in schools. What
most people worry about is the " serious lack of emphasis on Math and
Science". They worry that the children of Minneapolis are not getting the
basic foundation to acquire other knowledge and novel stimulation. You
as
On Sep 17, 2004, at 9:12 AM, Michael Atherton wrote:
I'll bring this back to Minneapolis because I'm just amazed at
the irrational responses generated by this topic and I'm
interesting in knowing how representative they are. That's
why I started this thread. Other than one private school in
Minne
List Manager wrote:
> Hi folks - the thread's pretty general now. I think it's time
> to move on to more Minneapolis-specific topics, educational or
> otherwise.
I'll bring this back to Minneapolis because I'm just amazed at
the irrational responses generated by this topic and I'm
interesting
Hi folks - the thread's pretty general now. I think it's time to move on to
more Minneapolis-specific topics, educational or otherwise.
David Brauer
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> Many children might not make it past their first birthdays
> if not for science. For me that gives science priority over
> art. Dead artists don't create much of anything.
>
> Michael Atherton
> Prospect Park
Dead scientists don't create much of anything either!
Science may have gotten t
Yeah - and how many people has science destroyed - think Hiroshima. We could go on but
let's not.
We could start listing case stories of people who were saved by art, but I'm starting
to have a sneaking suspicion you wouldn't understand - apples/oranges.
Life can be so full with both arts and
Dan McGuire wrote:
> Arguing the significance of the arts in education is like
> arguing for the significance of water to human life. Only a
> very small percentage of those who have lived on this planet
> and considered themselves educated would suggest otherwise;
> that small group's per
Liz,
Arguing the significance of the arts in education is like arguing for the
significance of water to human life. Only a
very small percentage of those who have lived on this planet and considered themselves
educated would suggest otherwise;
that small group's perspective on human existenc
Who knows if it enhances "creativity" in the realm of arts, if that's
what you're getting at. It may not enhance one's "artistic" creativity,
but it's been shown to be a great educational tool for teaching about
thinking outside the box, higher learning skills of problem solving,
helping undera
Liz Greenbaum wrote:
> And what area of research is that Michael?
Educational Neuroscience.
> Obviously you have not researched the benefit of the arts in
> education. If you had you would have found out that over the
> past 6 years there has been extensive reseach in relation to
> arts and
are foreign to
you...
Liz Greenbaum
Longfellow
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Driscoll
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:41 PM
>> To: Minneapolis Issues
>> Subject: Re: [Mpls] A
Unlike smoking. ;-)
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Driscoll
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:41 PM
> To: Minneapolis Issues
> Subject: Re: [Mpls] Arts & Music
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>
> This is one truly lo
This is one truly lost cause. The view is not worth confronting.
Andy Driscoll
St. Paul
on 9/15/04 7:22 PM, Michael Atherton wrote:
>
> David Brauer wrote:
>
>> Because there's more to life than standardized tests - such as
>> music and art.
>
> Standardized tests shouldn't represent much mo
David Brauer wrote:
> Because there's more to life than standardized tests - such as
> music and art.
Standardized tests shouldn't represent much more than a day or
two a year of a child's life, but the failure to receive a
basic education can impact an entire lifetime. Just ask
the tens of th
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