Re: MQ test tool

2003-06-10 Thread Tibor
Another very useful is amqsblst in mqm/samp/bin. MQ for Win32 package contains only the C source but you can compile it (or I can send the binary). amqsblst ('mq blaster') can put, read or echo messages with any size and count, waiting time and give statistics. HTH, Tibor Instructions for

Re: WMQI - BIP2066E for all execution groups

2003-06-10 Thread Tibor
Start a service trace at 'debug level' on broker side and let we look into it - just for a happy hacking :-) Tibor The configmgr and broker are comuunicating fine. The problem is between the broker and its execution groups. For example, SYSTEM.BROKER.EXECUTIONGROUP.QUEUE has messages

Re: MQSeries in DMZ

2003-06-10 Thread Wyatt, T. Rob
I'm in San Francisco for the Advanced Clustering class this week so maybe I'll have a different view by Friday. At the moment, however, I'd have to say that clustering adds even more security considerations into the mix. It does channel auto-definition by default and the cluster channels need

U469416 for OpenVMS Alpha 2.2.1.1

2003-06-10 Thread Kulbir S. Thind
Hi, Does anyone have a copy of this that they could share with me? Or do you know if U469417 can be used instead? The cover letter indicates that U469417 is for VAX and is available, but U469416 has a dead link on the support page. Cheers, Kulbir.

Re: How a MQSeries Hub does its thing with persistent / non-persi stent messages

2003-06-10 Thread David C. Partridge
Peter, The one thing I still do not understand is why a 75K NP message going thru FAST channels only does not require disk. If the default buffer is 64K, does not the 75K message being placed into the XMIT queue leaving the HUB require disk? I think I can answer that. If the message is being

AS400 MQ Problem

2003-06-10 Thread JoE JK
Hi, One of my user has changed the following and caused the mqseries unable to start(QMGR hang up):- (1)the user id profile QMQM Job Queue is changed to the new job description and processed in the new job queue subsystem. (2) after change above and start the qmgr, found out the job AMQZFUMA in

Re: AS400 MQ Problem

2003-06-10 Thread John Scott
Assuming you are using MQ 5.3, look at chapter 4 (Work Management) of the iSeries System Administration Guide. From what I can tell, there's a number of job descriptions that various processes use to work out how things get executed. Chapter 4 should explain it all (to an AS400 guy at least). I

Re: Securing MQSeries

2003-06-10 Thread Jason Andersen
Ed Lots of factors here. Nature of the business, how proprietary the data, etc. I have always thought of a MQM as a CICS region with lots of different applications running it. Under that assumption, we never secured VSAM files inside of CICS to prevent other applications from updating VSAM

Re: MQSeries in DMZ

2003-06-10 Thread mqm mqm
What pay check ? --- Robert Broderick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HUMM! MQMMQM is always suggesting CQ. I wonder whos name is on his/hers pay check??? :-) From: David C. Partridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Using JMSAdmin tool on Unix

2003-06-10 Thread Sumeet Khosla
Hi all, We are using MQSeries V5.3 on Unix Sun Solaris 5.8. While testing the installation, using the IVTSetup script, we get the error message as: Unable to bind object. The settings in JMSAdmin.config are: INITIAL_CONTEXT_FACTORY=com.sun.jndi.fscontext.RefFSContextFactory

Re: How a MQSeries Hub does its thing with persistent / non-persi stent messages

2003-06-10 Thread Potkay, Peter M (PLC, IT)
Dave, my tests were run on 5.2.1 CSD05. I don't believe that feature was implemented at that level, was it? -Original Message- From: David C. Partridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 4:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How a MQSeries Hub does its thing with

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Dave Adam
Dennis and Bobbie I missed the point, I was thinking at a level beyond the bridge, which would be the CICS application program itself at entry to CICS, could not that program read all the data, determine if it will fit in the commarea (if not switch to temp storage), then do a RETURN

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread June Lawton
I was thinking more along the lines of functionality, additional coding requirements, DPL, etc. For our proof of concept project we want to replace an application that currently accesses CICS via an EXCI from a DB2 stored procedure. Currently this request goes directly into an AOR. However,

Any point backing up broker DB?

2003-06-10 Thread Paul Meekin
Couldn't find this on a search of the list which surprised me. The WMQI 2.1 Admin Guide recommends backing up a specific set of tables in the broker database to be used to restore in case of breakage. I understand that Publication and subscription data is stored there in this DB but, if I'm not

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Christopher Frank
June, I was thinking more along the lines of functionality, additional coding requirements, DPL, etc. For our proof of concept project we want to replace an application that currently accesses CICS via an EXCI from a DB2 stored procedure. Currently this request goes directly into an AOR.

Re: Securing MQSeries

2003-06-10 Thread Ronald Weinger
Jason has a good point. creating rules for all the queues in a system can be a maintenance headache. If the application(s) are designed to reject unrecognizable messages (politely, rather than taking a nasty abend), then the largest exposure would be some hacker flooding the system with garbage

Re: WIndow NT DR

2003-06-10 Thread Hill, Dave
In past DR tests I found that just installing it and importing the defs was the quickest way. I know that some of you just fell off your chairs but after many +/- experiences I found this path the least resistant. Have fun Dave -Original Message- From: Kin Yeung [mailto:[EMAIL

MQ software evolution - fill in the gaps?

2003-06-10 Thread Heggie, Peter
Can someone help fill in the gaps or correct my note below? I'm trying to establish a timeline and show the names of the various MQ software names and dates. MQ: MQM (199? - 199?) - MQSeries (199? - 2001) - Websphere MQ (2001 - present) MQSI: MQSI (199? - 2000) - WMQI (2000 - 2002) - WMQIB (2002

Re: How a MQSeries Hub does its thing with persistent / non-persi stent messages

2003-06-10 Thread David C. Partridge
I thought that it was done in 5.2, but as they say: The second thing that goes as you get older is your memory. I can't remember what the first thing was! I guess that's one for the Hursley folks to comment on. Dave Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the

Re: Any point backing up broker DB?

2003-06-10 Thread Christopher Frank
Paul, The WMQI 2.1 Admin Guide recommends backing up a specific set of tables in the broker database to be used to restore in case of breakage. I understand that Publication and subscription data is stored there in this DB but, if I'm not using PubSub applications is there any point in doing

Re: Any point backing up broker DB?

2003-06-10 Thread Robert Broderick
PUB/SUB is right. I thought there was something else. I cannot remember it right now OR I am wrong. Gary W??? You mentioned this to me back a couple of months when we were doing the XA stuff?? Any input?? bobbee From: Paul Meekin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Robert Broderick
Back to my comments and Dennis'. You will end up building something simular to what the bridge offers. Except you will be in charge of the coding. So if you have requirements NOW or in the Future that the Bridge does not address it is within you scope to add it. Now it becomes a point of getting

Re: CLUSTERed MQM's in MVS Distributed Platforms in a DRP

2003-06-10 Thread Jason Andersen
What kind of problems will I have given this scenario: 1) DRP Hot Site Test where production MQM dataset's are restored from backups. 2) MVS and Distributed MQM's recovered. 3) MQM's have CLUSTERs on both platforms. 4) Shared Queues and stand-alone Queues live inside CLUSTERs. 5) Now the BIGGY,

How to trigger when using Shared Queues?

2003-06-10 Thread McCarty, Brian
If you use Shared Queue's on MVS but want to use triggering, how would that work? If the message lands on a shared queue but you want multiple CICS regions supporting pulling the message off, how do you set it up so that only 1 trigger message is sent to an initiation queue? On the shared

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Randy J Clark
The Bridge simply reads the message passes it to your program BUT it is not called by your program like a wrapper. Its monitoring a queue and when a message arrives it reads it and links to your program and passes the message to your program in the commarea. This is not going to be a substitute

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Randy J Clark
I think you are thinking they are two ways to do the same thing not exactly and I doubt the Bridge is going to fit in all situations and thus will not allow your people to remain ignorant of the MQ API or allow management to keep them in this state. The situation is the program you want to

SIGNOFF MQSERIES

2003-06-10 Thread Adiraju S Rao
American Express made the following annotations on 06/10/2003 11:41:26 AM -- ** This message and any attachments are solely for the

SIGNOFF MQSERIES

2003-06-10 Thread Adiraju S Rao
American Express made the following annotations on 06/10/2003 11:36:42 AM -- ** This message and any attachments are solely for the

Re: WIndow NT DR

2003-06-10 Thread Kin Yeung
Dave, Thanks for your advise. But if we do that, a lot of cluster queue information will be left over in respository. I know MQ will clean those after 90 days. Thanks KK Yeung --- Hill, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In past DR tests I found that just installing it and importing the defs was

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Robert Broderick
So lets say a programmer has only to receive a message and process it. The company picks the bridge. When does the programmer get to learn about MQ?? I have interviewed people who have worked at companies that allowed them access to MQ through their own home grown software (wrappers) These people

Re: MQ software evolution - fill in the gaps?

2003-06-10 Thread Robert Broderick
Wasn't there a second cousin in there named TCAM?? From: Ronald Weinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MQ software evolution - fill in the gaps? Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 13:35:25 -0400 You forgot the 'Grandfather' product EZ-Bridge.

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Ronald Weinger
Oh no! A rebel without a queue. Robert Broderick [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OTMAIL.COM cc: Sent by: MQSeriesSubject: Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Francois Van der Merwe1
I've also seen companies getting so obsessed with protecting the programmer from MQ complexity (shame, poor programmers) that they layer themselves into a calling stack that is so far removed from MQ and the world of messaging in general, that it is really scary. In the end the programmers are

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Randy J Clark
wow someone that is making sense... I agree just because programmers are not bit flippers and are closer to burger flippers (due to offshore outsourcing - ooops I digress) is that necessarily a bad thing Fryett.Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: MQSERIES AND CICS

2003-06-10 Thread Chan, Ian M
I remember the days when I was at college. At year 1, I learned the Data General MV machine and get familiar with it. At year 2, we started using VAX. One of my 'smart' team member rushed to learn it and wrote the 'wrapper' for most of the line commands that made it looked like DG MV and showed