Re: downloading MO71 support pac....

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Clarke
Dan, Is it possible you're using the old webpage. The SupportPacs have been re-arranged recently. I've just tried it from http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203uid=swg24000142loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en and it seems to work fine for me. Cheers, P. Paul G Clarke WebSphere MQ

Re: Moving Queue Manager to New Server

2004-07-22 Thread Bill Anderson
I never considered he was duplicating the queue manager on the same network as the existing one. I am in the middle of a similar project, but in a distributed queuing environment, not a clustered one. It's about upgrading AIX to 5.2 and to a small degree the servers are a bit faster. So I don't

Re: Moving Queue Manager to New Server

2004-07-22 Thread AkBar E. Dar
I am not duplicating the Queue Manger, rather we moving to a new machine. Once New machine is imaged, I will turn off the other machine and configure the same Queue Manager on the New machine with the information like Server Name(CONNAME) and reset the Channel Sequence Number. Then run the

MQ HFS information

2004-07-22 Thread Mike Davidson
(We're running MQ v5.3 on z/OS 1.4) I don't expect alot of responses on this one b/c nobody seems to know anything about this stuff, but here it goes: I'm looking for any information/documentation I can find on the data, directories, and files contained within the MQ HFS structure under USS.

Brian E Wilson/Albany/IBM is out of the office.

2004-07-22 Thread Brian E Wilson
I will be out of the office starting 07/22/2004 and will not return until 07/26/2004. I will be out of the office visiting a customer site on 7/22 and will be in a full day training session on 7/23. I will not have access to e-mail during this period. I will respond when I return. If the

Collecting Events on two Queues

2004-07-22 Thread Agarwal, Krishan [IT]
Hi, I have a sitiutaion where I want to collect Events for two third party tools on two different queues. I have deleted the system event queues and defined them as alias queues pointing to Q1. But I want same events to be collected on Q2 also. Is there anyway to do this? Regards, Krishan

Re: MQ HFS information

2004-07-22 Thread Moir, Peter
Title: Message Mike, the program directory gives you about as much as there is I think - what informationare you actually after ? thanks, Pete -Original Message-From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike DavidsonSent: 22 July 2004 16:05To:

Re: Collecting Events on two Queues

2004-07-22 Thread Paul Clarke
You could daisy chain the event handlers. ie. have that part of the processing of the event message is to put a copy of it to another queue. Cheers, P. Paul G Clarke WebSphere MQ Development IBM Hursley Agarwal, Krishan [IT] krishan.agarwal@

Re: Collecting Events on two Queues

2004-07-22 Thread Agarwal, Krishan [IT]
Paul, I can't make a code change as these are third party tools. The only thing that I am allowed to do is on infrastructure level. Regards, Krishan -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Clarke Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:28 AM To:

Re: Collecting Events on two Queues

2004-07-22 Thread Williams, Arlen
Send the events to one queue and then use the q program (SupportPac MA01 - http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=203uid=swg24000647loc=en_UScs =utf-8lang=en) to duplicate the messages onto 2 separate queues for the 3rd party tools to use. -Original Message- From: Agarwal, Krishan

Re: Collecting Events on two Queues

2004-07-22 Thread Glen Larson
Krishan, if your using Candle or BMC, I have configured the agents in the past to just Browse vs destructive GET. Check with the vendors and see if this is possible, then just put the one that can first. Glen Larson Zurich North America Agarwal, Krishan [IT] [EMAIL PROTECTED]@AKH-Wien.AC.AT

Re: Moving Queue Manager to New Server

2004-07-22 Thread Bill Anderson
I guess in my mind that is duplicating a queue manager. It has the same name, objects, etc. But that is just semantics. I understand the fundamentals of clustering, but have little personal experience with implementing it, so take this with a grain of salt. It seems to me if, after building

Re: Collecting Events on two Queues

2004-07-22 Thread Awerbuch, David (CALYON)
Krishan, Since the event messages are only generate donce, the best suggestion I can make is to use the multiplexor program MMX that you can download from Lacroix's website (http://www.capitalware.biz/dl/code/c/mmx.zip). MMX would read the event queue, and copy the events to two separate queues,

Re: MQ on Windows with shared disks

2004-07-22 Thread David C. Partridge
Paul, What is the block on using MSCS - that looks to be the exact tool you need! Dave Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at http://www.lsoft.com Archive: http://vm.akh-wien.ac.at/MQSeries.archive

Re: MQ HFS information

2004-07-22 Thread Bright, Frank
Title: Message Mike Good question. I had asked a question about maintenance and installation standards a short while back but no one answered. So my questionwent onto IBM support and eventually Hursley. We are running WMQ V5.3.1 on OS/390. I don't think we will be installing anything new

Re: Collecting Events on two Queues

2004-07-22 Thread Robert Broderick
I didn't get the orig message so I am going on faith of context here. Do you have a DR site. Point one tool to the primary and one to the DR site. This would be good until you have a failover. From: Williams, Arlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MQ on Windows with shared disks

2004-07-22 Thread Robert Broderick
Sounds like Veratas for UNIX. From: Meekin, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: MQSeries List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MQ on Windows with shared disks Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 16:43:54 +0100 Hi all, We are looking at the feasability of running MQ on a pair of Windows 2000

Re: Moving Queue Manager to New Server

2004-07-22 Thread Ruzi R
Bill is correct in that the existing qmgr should be removed from the cluster before you join the new one. I have already done this before. Here are the steps: 1- Saveall objects on the exisitingqmgr (QM1), and save it to file (file1) 2- Create the new QM1 on the other server 3- Remove QM1 from

How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Solaris 2.8 MQ 5.3 CSD4 I have runmqtrm running in the foreground. I have the following in my ApplID field of the process definition: /var/mqm/peterscript.sh I have the following in /var/mqm/peterscript.sh: /opt/mqm/samp/bin/amqsput SYSTEM.DEFAULT.LOCAL.QUEUE SOLARIS1 This works great, as I

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Dag
Peter, have you also tried: nohup commmand_to_execute_in_background -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT) Verzonden: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:08 PM Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: How to trigger amqsput into the background

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Rick Tsujimoto
Peter, Doesn't amqsput require two null inputs to terminate the application? If you run in background, how are you providing the double nulls? Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

NetIQ App Manager for MQ

2004-07-22 Thread Gary Ward
Hi all, Anyone have any experiences with this tool that they would like to share? Monitoring gurus are considering migrating from PATROL to this suite... TIA! Gary Instructions for managing your mailing list subscription are provided in the Listserv General Users Guide available at

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Justin Fries
Hi Peter, Try redirecting the stdio streams as follows (particularly stdin): /opt/mqm/samp/bin/amqsput SYSTEM.DEFAULT.LOCAL.QUEUE SOLARIS1 0/dev/tty 1/dev/null 21 Best regards, Justin T. Fries WebSphere MQ Support Raleigh, North Carolina Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Rick, I can't get it to run in the background, thats what I am trying to figure out. Once it is in the background, I'll just kill -9 it. The point of this is I need a app that I can trigger that will run (in the background) long enough for me to do a ps -ef|grep appname on it in another session.

QMgr leaving Cluster

2004-07-22 Thread Lynn Nelson
Hello, Has anyone ever seen this? We have a cluster that had been working fine until we recently added a new fourthQMgr. Everythingis processing properly and suddenly this new QMgr decides it wants no part of the Cluster andsomehow is removed from the cluster. Thanks, Lynn

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Robert Broderick
First Don't you run the script that is triggered in the background??? Not the command that is inside the script you are starting??? And it you want something to run for a while that you want to kill (I am assuming you are testing something wierd!!! How about a loop. (Hopfully this will not kill

Re: MQ on Windows with shared disks

2004-07-22 Thread Crupi, Margherita
Paul, We run MSCS clusters using EMC-SRDF for the MQ data files for live/failover purposes on W2K without any issues - which would be similar enough for your query. We do not have to replicate the registries between the 2 clusters and have had no issues with security using domains either.

Moving the list server ?

2004-07-22 Thread Sid . Young
In light of all the problems with users sending read replies and not being able to get the owners/moderators to do anything, perhaps it is time to move the list to Yahoo groups... I know they send advertising but a group of us could be moderators and hence control things a bit better ? Any

Re: How many Listeners can a QM on a windows box have?

2004-07-22 Thread Sid . Young
I have 8... Seams to work OK. -Original Message- From: Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 22 July 2004 2:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How many Listeners can a QM on a windows box have? Windows 2000 MQ 5.3 CSD05 How many Listeners can a QM on a

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Miller, Dennis
Can't you mod amqsput to just run indefinately instead of ending when there's no more input? -Original Message- From: Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 1:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to trigger amqsput into the background

Re: Moving the list server ?

2004-07-22 Thread Tim Armstrong
Not a bad suggestion but personally NO. The current service works quite well with the occasional problem and its much more likely to remain free of charge. Regards Tim A -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL

Re: How many Listeners can a QM on a windows box have?

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Someone I know created 22 of them on a Windows box, but they weren't being heavily used. IBM said that there is no official limit. Its more a function of system resources. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 7:03 PM To:

Re: MQ on Windows with shared disks

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Regarding security: If you have specific UserIDs that need setmqaut commands run against them, you must use Domain Ids so that the Windows SID will be the same for the ID, regardless of which server it is running on. Define a UserID called PETER on Server1 and define a UserID called PETER on

Re: QMgr leaving Cluster

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
"somehow is removed from the cluster" What makes you think that? -Original Message-From: Lynn Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 5:13 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: QMgr leaving Cluster Hello, Has anyone ever seen this? We have a cluster

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Dennis, I haven't a clue on how to code C. I could probably figure it out, but for some reason trying to find a C compiler in this company is impossible! I didn't want to have to alter write code. By the way, amqsput does not end when there is no more input. It sits forever (at least 20 minutes

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Wyatt, T.rob
Peter, Are you sure it's in the foreground? Amqsget will inherit the I/O handles of peterscript.sh which inherits from runmqtrm which means that it's output will always go to your screen - even if it's in the background - as long as: a) runmqtrm is in the foreground and b) you don't redirect

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
First Don't you run the script that is triggered in the background??? Tried that by sticking the in various places in the Process Definition. No luck. Not the command that is inside the script you are starting??? Tried that to by sticking a blank space and the after the QM name inside the

Re: How many Listeners can a QM on a windows box have?

2004-07-22 Thread Sid . Young
I have found that if you load more than 600 clients on a listener, the box pretty well dies, hence the 8 listeners to spread the load. Sid -Original Message- From: Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 23 July 2004 9:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background SOLVED

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
/opt/mqm/samp/bin/amqsget SYSTEM.DEFAULT.LOCAL.QUEUE SOLARIS1 1/dev/null 2/dev/null This worked. This is my trigger monitor window when I dropped ONE message onto the triggered queue. Kinda weird I got the double output. $ runmqtrm -m SOLARIS1 5724-B41 (C) Copyright IBM Corp. 1994, 2002.

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background

2004-07-22 Thread Wyatt, T.rob
Peter, You are both right. Amqsput waits for either an EOF or a blank line. When run in the background, STDIN is not open so the first read returns an EOF and the program immediately ends. Have you ever tried to redirect a file into amqsput? Notice you don't need a blank line at the end of

Re: How to trigger amqsput into the background SOLVED

2004-07-22 Thread Wyatt, T.rob
Nope, /dev/null never fills up although people *have* tried. It's actually and interface to a stargate so, perhaps one day, all those bits may show up again and boy will they be mad! -Original Message- From: MQSeries List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)

Re: Trigger Monitors (run under an ID other than mqm)

2004-07-22 Thread Potkay, Peter M (ISD, IT)
Well, I got the default runmqtrm to run under another ID, and it kicks off processes under that ID as well. Those triggered processes truly are running under the new ID (not mqm), as they follow the rules I set with setmqaut, and doing a Q status shows the User ID connected is in fact the ID I

Re: Trigger Monitors (run under an ID other than mqm)

2004-07-22 Thread Neil Casey
Hi Peter, well done on getting this working, but you may want to consider copying the runmqtrm binary and renaming it, rather than changing the installed binary by altering the permissions. Some installation packaging features don't like it when the software you are upgrading doesn't exactly