Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SigSegv on unloaing MSEgui's SSL (win-32).

2012-09-03 Thread Ivanko B
BTW, is the pure EVP_Cleanup 100% enough for proper deinitializing LIBEAY32 in any situation ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has cha

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SigSegv on unloaing MSEgui's SSL (win-32).

2012-09-03 Thread Ivanko B
Thanx ! Also, is it correct to call "Application.terminated[d:= true]" before calling "Application.Run" ? (as me do in the startup code of my project) What's lifetime strategy for components crated before & after "Application.Run" ? -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SigSegv on unloaing MSEgui's SSL (win-32).

2012-09-03 Thread Ivanko B
It happend in /lib/common/crypto/mseopensslevp.pas: procedure deinit(const info: dynlibinfoty); begin evp_cleanup; // << HERE end; INFO = {LIBHANDLE = 263192576, LIBNAME = 0x5f6e50 'libeay32.dll', REFCOUNT = 1, INITHOOKS = 0x56738, DEINITHOOKS = 0x66920, CW8087 = 4978} Where to dig ? Me can't u

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui: app exit code constants

2012-09-03 Thread Ivanko B
Universal for win-32 & Linux. 2012/9/3, Martin Schreiber : > On Monday 03 September 2012 09:43:18 news.gmane.org wrote: >> SUCCESS, FAILED,.. ? >> > Which app? > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live ev

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
Also, there's no other way in PostrgeSQl to call a function than SELECTing it or participation in WHERE/JOIN condition. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
And BEGIN/COMMIT/ROLLBACK can't be called within a PostgreSQL procedure ( disabled by syntax ) . -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
May it be because finalizing COMMIT (because dso_autocommit set) ? Me need dso_autocommit here since the (original) SELECT-looking function really updates the database & only returns the update status. And the SELECT function (select * from f_enter_window(:OFFICE_CODE,:WINDOW_CODE,:OPER_CODE,:OPER

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
For me, me have wrong counters for "srtEnterWindow.active:= true" for the below component: object srtEnterWindow: tsqlresult fielddefs = < item Name = 'aresult_code' DataType = ftInteger Precision = -1 Size = 0 end item Name = 'ahandled

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
TSQLSCript === Oops, tsqlresult :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions w

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
Another issue: TSQLSCript returns "rowsreturned = -1" & "cols.count = 0" for whatever SQL SELECT code me call. (PostgreSQL 9.1 under WinXP X86_64) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all t

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] (no subject)

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
Fixed, thanx ! -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint securit

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE doesn't build

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
Sometimes it is necessary to do a first run with -B and then a second time without. No, only -O1 option helps here. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways tod

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-02 Thread Ivanko B
Have You tried with VARCHAR(x) OUT parameter off function as mentioned in the example ? PS: Really not an issue unless noticeable slowdown for 33.6K dial up connections. Which difference as to data retrieval between ftString & ftMemo ? ---

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE doesn't build

2012-09-01 Thread Ivanko B
Hmm... Me have to set "-O" to "1" to build the IDE. 2012/9/1, Ivanko B : > Compiling .\lib\common\kernel\i386-win32\msesystimer.pas > mseclasses.pas(4528,65) Error: Identifier not found "iifiserver" > mseclasses.pas(4528,25) Error: function header d

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] (no subject)

2012-09-01 Thread Ivanko B
The exception look is here attached. <>-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will i

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] The IDE doesn't build

2012-09-01 Thread Ivanko B
Compiling .\lib\common\kernel\i386-win32\msesystimer.pas mseclasses.pas(4528,65) Error: Identifier not found "iifiserver" mseclasses.pas(4528,25) Error: function header doesn't match any method of this class "tmsecomponent.setifiserverintf(const );" mseclasses.pas(4538,73) Error: Identifier not fou

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] PostgreSQL 9.1 & TSQLResult: resulting ftMemo even for VARCHAR(255) type

2012-09-01 Thread Ivanko B
As designed ? AFAIK, ftMemo as contrary ftString assumes a specialized procedure of data transfer from server to client - may be slower on 33.6 dial-up line communications. The type is defined as OUT parameter of the function: create or replace function f_enter_window(aOFFICE_CODE integer,aWINDOW

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] experimental porting MSEgui with SDL 2 and libcairo

2012-08-31 Thread Ivanko B
The Sourceforge mirror works = Because it has a separate HEAD for osdl4msegui in the repository. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landsca

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] experimental porting MSEgui with SDL 2 and libcairo

2012-08-30 Thread Ivanko B
How to take a particular directory (not the whole MSEUNIVERSE) from GIT WEB ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT m

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Feature request: asyncronous mode of activating TMSESQLQuery

2012-08-30 Thread Ivanko B
Tried to set tmsesqlquery.packetrecords > 0? If it is not appropriate threading is necessary. == As me understand , the advanced (prper scrollbars, local indexes, off line filtering,..) TMSSQLQuery's features mean non-cursor data extraction - that's all data belonging to its query, and si

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Feature request: asyncronous mode of activating TMSESQLQuery

2012-08-29 Thread Ivanko B
Means no waiting on query.Active:= true. Useful for slow connections. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Corrupted PostgreSQL BIGINT values

2012-08-29 Thread Ivanko B
Looks fixed :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint securit

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Memory leaks developed on calling HALT(n)

2012-08-28 Thread Ivanko B
Also me often use FINALIZATION sections of units. Does it differ from TRY.. FINALLY ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Memory leaks developed on calling HALT(n)

2012-08-28 Thread Ivanko B
There, FINALLY is called before HALT. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will i

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SigSegv on cleaning OPENSSL

2012-08-28 Thread Ivanko B
on terminating application. The call stack only shows : 0 LIBEAY32!ENGINE_load_chil() 1 ??() -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has chan

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Corrupted PostgreSQL BIGINT values

2012-08-28 Thread Ivanko B
SQL-query returns 21020001 then it's passes to TDBLOOKUPBUFFER as INT64FIELDS[n] then it's passed to TDBENUM64EDITLB as the keyfield where seleted into a TLARGEINTFIELD then the TLARGEINTFIELD is passed via PARAMS[n] to TMSESQLSCRIPT for inserting into the DB - me have "-453377503" (wrong ) as

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Memory leaks developed on calling HALT(n)

2012-08-28 Thread Ivanko B
MSESTREAM.PAS line 1013: TMSEFILESTEAM_CREATE line 971: TMSEFILESTEAM_INTERNALCREATE The stream is freed by "TRY .. FINALLY" and this code is called (checked). -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TMSESQLQuery.SQLDelete.macros[n].value.text : how to set in for already active query ?

2012-08-27 Thread Ivanko B
I think so. Does changing the macros Setting a value of the SQLDelete's macro for already open query cause the complain & the exception. He, we should distinguish macroses for the main (SELECT) query & the update ones. --

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TMSESQLQuery.SQLDelete.macros[n].value.text : how to set in for already active query ?

2012-08-27 Thread Ivanko B
most probably in "query.BeforeDelete" event so that it triggers automatically on "query.delete". Need since these SQL-queries can't be supplied with params[n]. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TDBEnum[64]EditLB's dropdown.OnFilter problems

2012-08-27 Thread Ivanko B
- select in the upper combo, it should limit the choice in the lower one Also set a breakpoint within the lower combo's OnFilter, run the program, select in the upper combo, then in the lower one and watch which time You'll enter the handler ---

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] IDE-from designer: scrollbars don't disappear automatically

2012-08-27 Thread Ivanko B
Is only-IDE realted ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TDBEnum[64]EditLB's dropdown.OnFilter problems

2012-08-27 Thread Ivanko B
>> Data are supplied by an offline dataset. >> > Please send a testcase. > Here attached. 1) the OnFilter procedure only triggers on 2+ opening DBNELB2 2) anyway there's no invalidating mse-testcases.rar Description: application/rar --

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] IDE-from designer: scrollbars don't disappear automatically

2012-08-27 Thread Ivanko B
- put a tdblookupbuffer on a from so that its (long) name extend right beyond the form -> scrollbars appear - make the mane shorter so that should fit the form and the scrollbars should disappear - at me, these don't disappear until the form gets resized manually -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] ObjInspector stops auto adjusting (on F11) for active component

2012-08-26 Thread Ivanko B
Me selected it many times while checking. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions wi

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Message window: dblclick on error message doesn't bring to the error place in the source file

2012-08-26 Thread Ivanko B
The file with error is in "../common" directory from the project root. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldParamLink: new properties

2012-08-22 Thread Ivanko B
To connect a tparamconnector. = Scenario of usage ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can re

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldParamLink: new properties

2012-08-22 Thread Ivanko B
What is "Params[0].connector" designed for ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldParamLink: new properties

2012-08-22 Thread Ivanko B
It is even possible without tfieldparamlink. == Since a fileparamlink provides some great option (delays, no auto refreshing,e..) then how to do with it ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live even

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldParamLink: new properties

2012-08-22 Thread Ivanko B
Use tmseparam.datasource and fieldname. === Please, a bit deeper :) SrcDataset1 provides Filed1 as a parameter to DstDatset1 (receives the parameter via DstDataset1Param1) & DstDataset2 (receives the parameter via DstDataset2Param1). How to set up this structure with a single FieldPrama

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] TFieldParamLink: new properties

2012-08-21 Thread Ivanko B
No, it is used to supply field and param values from possibly different datasources to the destination dataset triggered by a change of the main datasource and datafield. BTW: tmseparam has datasource and fieldname properties too. = Hmm... The "one-to-many" mode would also be a good feature.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-21 Thread Ivanko B
I can't imagine there being such an incompatibility between x86 processors - otherwise the internet would have been flooded by such messages Sure :) Most probably software problems or misconfiguration - kernel, LIBC, XOrg drivers... --

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] *Connection.params: impossible to delete the last remaining record in the list

2012-08-20 Thread Ivanko B
Pressing "Ctrl+Del? complains "List index.. out of bound? Only RowCount:=0 works well. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed an

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-19 Thread Ivanko B
Fortunately, I could locate some patches, and one of them did work, although it was quite difficult to apply. === The base thing me've got from this story is that You are just happy of getting whichever stable picture on the screen :) And MSEgui uses Xrender intensively as long as Xrender

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-18 Thread Ivanko B
> Hallo Ivanko, > >> BTW, You should make sure You kernel does NOT use the PAT (MTRR >> replacement) kernel options. This feature is very problematic if >> activates. > > Did so, didn't help, at least not much, if at all. > (Cost me a reboot, since not switchable at run time, only kernel > paramete

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-18 Thread Ivanko B
Switching heat production from one part to another in seconds will constantly stress them thermally, Not be a problem for devices dissipating 95..130W - these issues are definitely taken when designing. Have You often encountered a damaged CPU but static electricity or imp

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-18 Thread Ivanko B
I.e. the overhead should be on the order of a few parts per a thousand. Did You read about CPU context switching - [re]storing registers, thread vars, memory maps, pipelines to GPU etc things bound to CPU etc ? A lot of work for CPU... -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-18 Thread Ivanko B
so much processor time that they might easily consume all the power of three of your cores (and more), These monsters sleep most of the time (once run & ate a plenty of RAM) -- Live Security Virtual Conferenc

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
Me even think that the current switch of few seconds is mainly designed to equalize temperatures of CPUs (different zones of their crystal). == And to equalize work hours of all CPUs (workout on failure). ---

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
Really? 5 to 10 _seconds_? Didn't you mean to write _milliseconds_? After all, the load display looks much too smooth to comply to a switching interval _that_ long! Milliseconds would be a far better fit, == Then CPUs would be used less efficient because of higher relative losses on c

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
BTW, You should make sure You kernel does NOT use the PAT (MTRR replacement) kernel options. This feature is very problematic if activates. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways t

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
IIRC there should be a means to restrict programs to specific processors; if I can find out how, By default LINUX tries to load all CPUs evenly by switching to different one each 5..10 seconds, even for a single use rapplication. --

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SDL test OK!

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
it use h/w rendering only if use OpenGL backend using render cairo-surface into an OpenGL-texture with glTexImage2D. Sure, because ANY kind of h/w acceleration can ONLY be provided by VGA+its drivers :) There're no other options. http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_rtf/ http://j

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SDL test OK!

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
Common 2D performance issues at : http://libregraphicsworld.org/blog/entry/mesh-gradients-in-cairo-now-official -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SDL test OK!

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
Self-painting libs capable of h/w acceleration are for instance : - CAIRO with code like at http://www.cairographics.org/samples/ Mentioned by IBM at http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cairo// [..] -- Liv

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] Off top: funny effects with SSL (STunnel)

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
For instance, if a MSEgui DB app doesn't produce background DB activity then its connection (if established via an SSL channel) may be safely broken for a while & reestablished w/o crashing the application when it's idle. Me even reattached the LAC cable from/to may machine w/o any bad consequence

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] SDL test OK!

2012-08-17 Thread Ivanko B
And there seems to be no XOR drawing, no circles, ellipses and arcs, no line caps setting, no stippling, no text... So the difficult things must be done by ourself anywa - Looks normally since SDL is mostly a video&audio hardware abstraction layer :) -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] cross compiling

2012-08-16 Thread Ivanko B
then put up a "Cross Compile" section on the website. Publishing everything meaningful on the site would be a great practice :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] tsqlresult.cols[x].asstring causes SF in win-32 (fpc 2.6.0)

2012-08-16 Thread Ivanko B
Please try again with git master 8946fdb13f3f87e90efbc0f8478072e22451d17f. == Thanx ! Will be checked tomorrow. PS: Do You consider adding macro functionality to TSQLResult like for TMSESQLQuery ? -- Live Secu

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] tsqlresult.cols[x].asstring causes SF in win-32 (fpc 2.6.0)

2012-08-16 Thread Ivanko B
The problem seems to be because of ftMemo returned by PG backend for TEXT type. Since TSQLresult doesnt' provide *_stringmemo option me had to apply workaround - casting fields to VARCHAR(n). -- Live Security Virtual Confe

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] tsqlresult.cols[x].asstring causes SF in win-32 (fpc 2.6.0)

2012-08-16 Thread Ivanko B
"AsIteger" is OK. = #0 0040AC16 :0 fpc_dynarray_decr_ref() #1 0040D16A :0 fpc_finalize() #2 00576930 :0 $MSEPQCONNECTION$_Ld11() #3 00056BE0 :0 ??() #4 0050B69D msesqlresult.pas:721 TDBCOL__GETISNULL(this=) #5 0050B89D msesqlresult.pas:777 TDBCOL__GETASSTRING1(this

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] i18n batch mode extension

2012-08-15 Thread Ivanko B
for it on MSEuniverse please let me know. == These (and any kind of - Emails,..) logins are subjects to forget. Me've already forgot them all :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover a

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-15 Thread Ivanko B
. I use watches _extremely_ seldom, mainly because most of what's of interest for me gets flagged as "not available" in the result area anyway... gdb isn't very smart at getting at property values, nor can it access an object's field structure at all. = Then You're a programmer g

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
That's LINUX GUI is very sensitive to combined quality of VGAcard & its drivers === Easily isolated by switching to framebuffer console&X-driver&X-mode. Me mean exactly KERNEL MODE framebuffer activated for X by "Option UseFBDev true" in X-config- VESAFB, IntelDRIFB, SISFB,.. These ed

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
That's LINUX GUI is very sensitive to combined quality of VGAcard & its drivers. Also kernel has to be properly configured & build - with activated DRI & MTRR, proper DMA, deactivated PAT [very-very evil feature],... Also, there can be [on systems with non-locked cooler RPMs - PWM, SmartFan,..] is

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
But I'm working under Linux, and even without a constantly open internet connection = Then another issues me encountered earlier - discontinuing fixing bugs for obsoleting graphic chips by vendors (free drivers are usually bad [or not properly tested for double buffering, XRendering,.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
If any >appreciable load from other processes is present (and I have a 4 core >processor wit 4 GB of memory now! ), thsi sluggishness is much increased >and there are even "GDB timeout" occurrances. I confirm. = Hmm...may be caused by a kind of recursion - then Martin definitely need

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
But testing a program is a pain - after a couple program starts, especially when breakpointas are set or perhaps even more so when changed, the IDE becomes unresponsive, at least invokes the program only after a huge delay, if at all (often not), and has to be terminated and restarted to let me

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
But there's some other issue mentioned here: There seem to be some serious problems with the file handling mechaism in your i18n utility. Definitely there're should be a lot of bugs here - since MSEi18n has been barely used up to now :) ---

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
_You_ want to replace a file that's in use by some program, even by _that very programm itself_, which is an inherently dangerous operation, because of very many possibilities for loss of data, inconsistency, inoperability. = No so much if finalized by (Rename/Move)* command - which d

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-13 Thread Ivanko B
I don't think they change libraries of a *running* process *by* the *running* process. = It works both in LINUX & Win-32 (in win-32 - via the trick with renaming files). For instance, without this feature it would be impossible ( w/o inserting auto-run keys into registry & rebootin

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-12 Thread Ivanko B
Then how about "renamefile" doing the things with a single command ? (works within same disk) It even works in win-32 allowing to replace DLLs used by running process (useful for software auto update ). -- Live Security Vi

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] lost information in *.trp

2012-08-12 Thread Ivanko B
copyfile(mstr1,'../'+mstr1,true); == Strange behavior - "true" here means overwriting "../mstr1". -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat lands

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] some problems with current git

2012-08-12 Thread Ivanko B
I don't understand because you have icons in captions, but I have no. Maybe, they just run the apps in Windows or more robust LINUX DE. I have NV GF220, any free driver or proprietary. This bug reproduce always 100%. = Definitely - some incompatibility "video-card vs driver" or wr

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
PING === Though a year ago there was a LIBC exploit which allowed to everyone who can call PING to become "root". We even reproduced it - calling root-ed MC in finish. Thats any SUID program is a trigger to shoot with LIBC etc exploits. -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
running via the SUID bit or 2) running Baf, very bad practice. = Not too if provided by distro that's won't be replaceable by non-root users & its functionality doesn't allow it to replace oneself with a malware or bugged version etc. For instance, PPPD, PING ... are SUID utilitie

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
But Alexej simply doesn't seem to understand the build process for an rpm package, not even the rights system of Linux === He definitely knows the packaging system (there're many packages already provided by Alexey ) but didn't have reasons & causes to be careful like us ;) -

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
/home/user why don' t you speak that it's dangerous? == Because non-root users can't damage the system unless leverage their privileges. full permissive for all users for /opt/mseide-msegui why do you speak that it's dangerous? == Because LINUX assumes these things to be controlle

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
In Linux there is specific directory - /opt. === Only in SUSE nowadays, AFAIK :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed a

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
In future I'll build universal rpm and deb pakages for all distributives. Ivanko B, you are very conservative, I wont be to use standard - I do new standart. == me has also been a network& database administrator of network over the large city & a system program

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
Ivanko B, Do you want to put 2 language projects, what are included in rpm, for all home user directories and to use /etc/skel? I don't like this idea. = The correct way might be selecting needed language on time of MSEide+MSEgui installation, later - on demand by smth

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
Users must have permissions: to recompile mseide, to recompile msei18n, to recompile any libraries, to change any file, to delete any file, === Correct for GIT/SVN trees, wrong for distro-included - You'll never be allowed to propagate such kind of apps into official LINUX distros. Non-r

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
This is wrong. Nobody should change root owned RPM files. Agreed. MSEi18 needs either 1) running via the SUID bit or 2) running from a non-root user with access rights within its home directory [but it means that MSEi18n should provide ability to customize output directory for i18s

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
Hmm.If the current state beaks automation of the building process then we definitely need to fix it. Does it break ? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and th

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
Есть также галочка "Включить цитируемый текст в ответ" - правда ее не пробовал. Сейчас пробую :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has ch

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
I use mail.google.com and I don' t understand where my errors are. " == Aha ! Леш, если отвечаешь через GOOGLE MAIL, то перед отправкой кликай на "Дополнит. параметры ответа" и вычищай квотинг внизу сообщения. Хотя я и сейчас в 50% случаев забываю это делать :)

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-11 Thread Ivanko B
0644 - it's also error for libraries, what were made by msei18n. == Then 0666. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-10 Thread Ivanko B
IvankoB, can you translate? === Translate what ? Alexey's English is quite decent for russian-spoken people :) And me can understand his being irritable when making LINUX packages so that they were ready for work "out-of-box" - a known issue for me (our main work program installation bundle

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-10 Thread Ivanko B
All users must write, read .so in current directory of project and in directory ru (de, fr, etc)!!! But it's not enough. It You plan to use auto update by non-root user (to avoid SUID/SGID security breaches) then sure. Also it may be important (and a requirement in case of custom LIBPQ

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] chown and msei18n

2012-08-10 Thread Ivanko B
must have chmod 777 Like executables ? Why ? The typical mode for DLLs is "0644". -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] problems with translation msei18n

2012-08-09 Thread Ivanko B
Hmm... Definitely there should be file "README.i18n" :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. D

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-09 Thread Ivanko B
He wants that the MSEgui dialogs use his text instead mseconsts_ru.pas. So the access to mseconsts*.pas must be removed in MSEgui. Or overridal ? (me also ofter use such approach - setting global vars from consts initially (in "INITIALIZATION" section etc) & overriding them in runtime

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-09 Thread Ivanko B
Or with some ifdefs in MSEgui code. === In MSEide+Msegui code ? (as me undestood, Alexey translates MSEide, correct ?) 2012/8/9, Martin Schreiber : > On Thursday 09 August 2012 19:10:01 Алексей Логинов wrote: >> Yes, but I want to use only .so without mseconsts_ru.pas and I want to see

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-09 Thread Ivanko B
ll translate string, then this string > from mseconsts_* must not be used. > > 2012/8/9 Martin Schreiber > >> On Thursday 09 August 2012 08:20:27 Ivanko B wrote: >> > On my feeling, everything is OK with the info messages too. How about >> > a voting about on &q

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-08 Thread Ivanko B
ОК" - it's more universal for all messages and dialogs. > > 2012/8/9 Ivanko B > >> It must be "OK"! >> == >> ??? "OK" isn't a russian word :) We need to find a shorter word for >> "Подтвердить". >> &g

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-08 Thread Ivanko B
It must be "OK"! == ??? "OK" isn't a russian word :) We need to find a shorter word for "Подтвердить". 2012/8/9, Алексей Логинов : > There are wrong translated string in mseconsts_ru.pas: > 36 string: '&'#1043#1086#1090#1086#1074#1086 , //mr_ok => > &Gotovo > 55 str

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-08 Thread Ivanko B
The problem may also be in incomplete (for Cyrillic environment) FONTCONFIG setup - PS(Type1) fonts instead of proper M$ TTF, KOI-8R/UTF-8 primary encoding instead of proper ISO10646-1,.. Sme of font issues are described in the "PERSONS" MSE tutorial (MSEUNIVERSE: \mse\trunk\help\tutorials\db\pers

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] GUI product similiar to MSEgui and fpGUI!

2012-08-07 Thread Ivanko B
JUCE looks like QT + very simplified QtCreator with their M(eta)O(bject)C(ompling) that's without integrated debugging. Very different form the MSE suite. PS: C++ is much harder to program business apps language than ObjectPascal :) And for some reason libs based on it only have rudimentary DB su

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-06 Thread Ivanko B
Neither M$ IE nor Opera show them :) How about exact URL ? PS: Me didn't login when checking. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has cha

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] EXEC[WAIT]MSE: will child process inherit access priveleges of its parent (runner) ?

2012-08-06 Thread Ivanko B
Especially ones provided by SUID/SGID bits. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] translate interface of mseide

2012-08-06 Thread Ivanko B
>> Native for 32bit& works well on 64bit (provided that FPC 2.6 win-32 >> is installed too). > > Updated the website for your links. > Hmm..me cant see them in the DOWNLOADS section. -- Live Security Virtual Conference E

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