Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello fredvs, you wrote on Wed, 7 Apr 2021 04:44:12 -0700 (MST): ["stat" file handling] > Yes, for me it is the biggest problem with MSEgui. > "stat" files works ok for all my projects but fails for some MSEide > himself on ARM aarch64 cpu. > > After deep explorations it seems that is related

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Sieghard. > (One area I found that is the "stat" file handling of existing components, > that's often writing out data never reloaded, or even vice versa.) Yes, for me it is the biggest problem with MSEgui. "stat" files works ok for all my projects but fails for some MSEide himself on ARM

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello fredvs, you wrote on Tue, 6 Apr 2021 19:07:32 -0700 (MST): > So you have a Radeon card but you do not use the Radeon driver. Right. That's the way it goes - there are variants of the graphics system AMD prodices that are named "Radeon" but indeed aren't even compatible to the older ones.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello fredvs, you wrote on Tue, 6 Apr 2021 17:26:31 -0700 (MST): > For the colormask, yes, it does not work everywhere. > And with graymask it works always, I did not see any difference with the > colormask. If I should be able to find enough spare time, I might have a deeper look at the

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Re-hello Sieghard. Ooops, sorry, I did not read correctly you previous post. So you have a Radeon card but you do not use the Radeon driver. Is it possible for you to load the Radeon driver and see if there is problem? If too many things to change, forget it. Fre;D -- Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Sieghard. Thanks for the infos of your graphic card. So you have a [Radeon R5/R6/R7 Graphics] without problems. Good news, then not all Radeon cards give problems. Yes, for the binary-program of course a command line is easier for a Linux user. For the colormask, yes, it does not work

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello fredvs, you wrote on Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:46:42 -0700 (MST): > [bmo_masked,bmo_graymask]. > I dont know why but setting, like origin, to "bmo_colormask" gives also > the same problem as yours on RPi. Just an aside remark: Once some time ago I also found a similar problem with image display

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello fredvs, you wrote on Mon, 29 Mar 2021 10:29:24 -0700 (MST): > It would be great if people that has problems with rendering could run > this application and gives the result: Ummph - wouldn't a simple 'lspci | grep -E "VGA|Display"' be sufficient? Or should this be an entry to the contest

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

> everyting ok. Yep, my fingers are happy now! Thanks to not give up. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

On 3/31/21 1:05 PM, fredvs wrote: Re-hello Pat. OK, commited the fixes ( can do a "reverse" if problems ). Just re-compile mseide and it should be ok. I cross my fingers. Fre;D Pulled the fixes to my systeman recompiled. everyting ok. ___

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

By the way do you know the difference to set bmo_graymask vs bmo_colormask (apart to fix the things)? I will commit the fixes when you agree. Fre;D I don't know much about the inner workings of mseide, so cannot say anything about what the masks do. You can commit whenever you like.

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Re-hello Pat. OK, commited the fixes ( can do a "reverse" if problems ). Just re-compile mseide and it should be ok. I cross my fingers. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello. > Success. Nice! > Did you make source code changes or compile option changes? Changed in source the mask of all TimageList and set it to [bmo_masked,bmo_graymask]. I dont know why but setting, like origin, to "bmo_colormask" gives also the same problem as yours on RPi. It is what

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

On 3/31/21 9:24 AM, fredvs wrote: Hello Pat. Sorry to annoy you once again, but could you try the binary of MSEide included in attachment? I think the previous was not ok. mseide.zip Thanks. Fre;D Success. Did you make

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Pat. Sorry to annoy you once again, but could you try the binary of MSEide included in attachment? I think the previous was not ok. mseide.zip Thanks. Fre;D -- Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Did you have this with previous version of MSEgui (version 4.6 of Martin) ? Did not happen with a prior version of matin's release.  Could have happened when I upgraded from Debian Stretch to Buster or with an upgrade of mseide.  I don't know exactly when it happened. May I ask you if

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Pat. Could you,please try the binary of mseide in attachment? Does it fix all the icons problems? mseide.zip Thanks. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Pat. OK, perfect, the icons of palette are OK so it is a mask problem. I will do the same for the other icons and give a other binary here for testing. Asap. Thanks to have tested it. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Re-hello Pat. In attachment binary Linux 64 bit of MSEide compiled with imagelist.options := [bmo_masked, bmo_graymask] for the components palette (buttons of the debugger commander are still not touched). mseide.zip Are the

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Pat. I have already seen this (but dot remember when). Did you have this with previous version of MSEgui (version 4.6 of Martin) ? May I ask you if you have the same with ideU ? https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/releases I remember that it happened on a RPi and it has something to do with

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Alexander. Ok, Radeon HD 3000, release date October 2007. It seems that you are not the only one with problems with that card and not only with msegui: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=291953

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS780L [Radeon 3000] On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 10:29:24 -0700 (MST) fredvs wrote: > Hello. > > It would be great if people that has problems with rendering could run this > application and gives the result: >

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Thanks Roland! In attachment zip of both Linux 32 and 64 bit binary of the /GetGraphicDriver/ programs. Just run it via console. ggd64_32.zip Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

No problem here. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5500 (rev 09) -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello. It would be great if people that has problems with rendering could run this application and gives the result: ___ program ggd; uses Process, sysutils; function GetGraphicDriver(): string; var outstr : string; begin

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Vasi. > As it looks now, Xorg seems more endangered on some platforms than gtk and > qt.. Sorry, I did not see this. Akaik, GTK and Qt need Xorg on Unix OS, they are upper-layer widget set, like fpGUI and msegui, and suffer also the Xorg bugs. I have read that GTK4 and Qt5 can deal

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Vasi. Xorg is dead, maybe still maintained for FreeBSD but the successor is Wayland. It would be interesting to test msegui on a Wayland machine with a Radeon card. Roland has a Linux OS with Wayland and it seems that there are no problems. Wayland has a build-in converter for all

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hi Fred, For Xorg, I think we might find help in the UNIX world, more exactly, OpenBSD. They forked Xorg and they continue the development under another name. How this translates to Linux, I don't know... As it looks now, Xorg seems more endangered on some platforms than gtk and qt... On Sat,

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello. This is interesting: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/MSEide-MSEgui-talk-Graphical-RAD-IDE-in-FPC-td1229.html -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Vasi. Maybe we can use a command line that will not need to install anything, nor sudo privilege to run it: This is the case: $ lspci -nn | grep -E 'VGA|Display' And with it create a fpc utility/method that will check if a Radeon (or what ever that could have problems) is used. And

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

>I was thinking ahead... considering that msegui same sources are used for ARM platform (that doesn't have these problems) and that a user already requested for these changes not to be done for windows, The best would be to know exactly what graphic drivers/cards makes problem an then isolate

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

I was thinking ahead... considering that msegui same sources a re used for ARM platform (that doesn't have these problems) and that a user already requested for these changes not to be done for windows, I guess that also ARM platform needs some compiler defines... On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 12:30 AM

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Vasi. >There is a delay in responding to commands and repaint between 500milliseconds and 1 second. > it solves the smudge but is not usable. At least, for my system. Yes, on mine it is not good too but maybe it fixes the Radeon problems (with delay of repaint) and so we may have a

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hi Fred, I used fownerwidget.invalidate; There is a delay in responding to commands and repaint between 500milliseconds and 1 second. It solves the smudge but is not usable. At least, for my system. I imagine that this will not be present on ARM systems, right? I mean, no modifications there of

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

> I got your message but it will take a while until I am able to try that... maybe a day. But I will try it. No problem, take your time, nothing burn. Imho using "invalidate" will work for your intel graphic card (but maybe with less fluidity than repeat "paint"). It would be interesting if

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Fred, if you define this global variable, please prefix it with something related to msegui, something like mesgui_repaintcanvas or similar, to differentiate it from any similar user definitions/variables. On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 1:29 PM fredvs wrote: > Hello. > > After many deep tests with the

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

I got your message but it will take a while until I am able to try that... maybe a day. But I will try it. On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 7:13 PM fredvs wrote: > Hello. > > It seems that the fix make size of form worst. > > >

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello. After many deep tests with the last commit, I did notice some lost of fluidity when resizing forms with lot of resizing-objects on Linux. So it seems to me that is better to use a "repaintcanvas" global variable and/or a define to enable the repaint of selected components. And not apply

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Re-hello. I would propose this: A global variable "repaintcanvas" and a define "repaintcanvas". So you may choose with var repaintcanvas := true:false at run time and/or at compilation with parameter "drepaintcanvas". If you choose compilation with parameter "drepaintcanvas", at

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Re-hello. And what about a global variable, so people can set is at run-time ?: unit msegui; ... var repaintcanvas : boolean = false; ... function twindow.internalupdate: boolean; ... if repaintcanvas then fownerwidget.paint(bmp.canvas); // can be changed at runtime ... -- Sent

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello. Here videos of resizing a application on Linux 64 bit with a i5. There is a video without fixes, one with re-painting (actual fix) and one with invalidate added. wavview_without_fix.mp4

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello. It seems that the fix make size of form worst. http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/MSEide-MSEgui-talk-A-real-forum-for-MSEide-MSEgui-tp2781p2808.html @ Vasi: could you try this: At line 17016 of fpgui.pas, change our fix: fownerwidget.paint(bmp.canvas);

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello everybody! No cry so I did commit the fixes. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

> Yes, it solved my problems. OK I propose to commit it and also change the msegui version to = '5.2.2'. It is only one line added but may fix lot of things. I seems that it fixes also the crazy blinking that I get sometime enabling in mseide menu "View" "Force Z order". If there is no

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

my configuration [image: neofetch-data.png] On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 7:46 PM vasi vasi wrote: > Yes, it solved my problems. I am more confident now in msegui. My daughter > has an i3 and there was no problem, only on my laptop/ > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 6:44 PM fredvs wrote: > >> Vasi, did

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Yes, it solved my problems. I am more confident now in msegui. My daughter has an i3 and there was no problem, only on my laptop/ On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 6:44 PM fredvs wrote: > Vasi, did the fixes we did for MSEide really fixed your problems with your > Intel driver? > > If so we can maybe

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Vasi, did the fixes we did for MSEide really fixed your problems with your Intel driver? If so we can maybe commit it (if nobody has find problem with it, I did not find some). Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Indeed, the raw text is not visible on email. you have to go on the web to see it ... On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 10:59 AM Roland Chastain wrote: > Thank you Fred. Here is the output of /neofetch/ for me: > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ > > >

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Roland. > DE: Plasma 5.15.4 > xO: cOd Theme: Oxygen [Plasma] Ha, you are using Plasma. Afaik, Plasma uses Wayland server (the successor of X11). So nice to see that msegui works with Wayland too. Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

> i3 or I5 ? Ooops, I have a bigger than yours! ;) Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

i5 or i3? No, I didn't notice any problem. -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Roland. Ha, ok, you have a i5 (like me). Here I never found problems, did you find some? Fre;D -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Thank you Fred. Here is the output of /neofetch/ for me: -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Roland. Just do: $ sudo apt install neofetch then $ neofetch fred@fiens ~> neofetch _,met$gg. fred@fiens ,g$$$P. -- ,g$$P" """Y$$.".OS: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) x86_64 ,$$P' `$$$. Host: 20Q0CTO1WW

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hi Vasi! Thank for your answer. I am on Linux 64 (Mageia). I don't know what is my graphic card. I will look. Thank you for the info about neofetch: it looks interesting. I am going to download it. -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hi Roland, What graphics card or chipset is used in your computer? Are you using Linux? Then, can you install and run neofetch? On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 6:43 PM Roland Chastain wrote: > Hello Fred! > > How can I know which driver I use? > > > > > -- > Sent from:

Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello Fred! How can I know which driver I use? -- Sent from: http://mseide-msegui-talk.13964.n8.nabble.com/ ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEgui and Radeon graphics card.

Hello everybody. Could somebody that uses a Radeon driver (or has problem with msegui rendering) on Linux 64 bit bit try the binary of MSEide in attachment? mseide.zip And say if it is better? Thanks. I will open a issue on