Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-05 Thread Jon De Schrijder
"Jun Sung Kim (???)" wrote: > > Hi again, > > Maybe some of you misunderstood me... > > I want the minimum configuration NOT for MSX standard > but for EXECUTING EXISTING BIOS. > ... > > * PPI is needed to set up address space because of the slot/page conception > of MSX standard. > * So PP

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-05 Thread Laurens Holst
Daniel Caetano wrote: >> How about in the reverse case (MSX2 ROM to MSX machine)? > > Then I think it'll hang on boot. MSX2 BIOS will probably look > a lot of things that do not even exist on MSX1 (it will read the > clock, set VDP palette, etc) I wonder... a lot of things won't pose any problem

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-05 Thread Eduardo Robsy Petrus
> Most of the times it will work. At least I have "changed" the original MSX2 > BIOS ROM (32 KB) of two Philips machines, NMS-8235 and NMS-8245 with a MSX > BIOS ROM from a Sony HB-75 and it worked really fine. And both machines have > got mapper. > This is the one that I want to know :) Did y

Re: Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-05 Thread Jun Sung Kim (???)
Hi, > > Most of the times it will work. At least I have "changed" the original MSX2 > BIOS ROM (32 KB) of two Philips machines, NMS-8235 and NMS-8245 with a MSX > BIOS ROM from a Sony HB-75 and it worked really fine. And both machines have > got mapper. > This is the one that I want to know :)

Fwd: Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-05 Thread Eduardo Robsy Petrus
>Hi again, Hi, >Ok. How about this? >I have a MSX2 machine and replace MSX2 BIOS ROM with MSX BIOS ROM. >Then does the MSX2 machine work? It'll depends on what is the hardware of this MSX2. If it has Mapper, it may not work, since MSX1 BIOS do not set mapper. Also, if this machine has differ

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-04 Thread Daniel Caetano
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:39:13 +0900, Jun Sung Kim (???) wrote: >Hi again, Hi, >Ok. How about this? >I have a MSX2 machine and replace MSX2 BIOS ROM with MSX BIOS ROM. >Then does the MSX2 machine work? It'll depends on what is the hardware of this MSX2. If it has Mapper, it may not work, since

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-04 Thread Jun Sung Kim (???)
Hi again, Maybe some of you misunderstood me... I want the minimum configuration NOT for MSX standard but for EXECUTING EXISTING BIOS. Ok. How about this? I have a MSX2 machine and replace MSX2 BIOS ROM with MSX BIOS ROM. Then does the MSX2 machine work? How about in the reverse case (MSX2 ROM

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-04 Thread Ricardo Bittencourt
Patriek Lesparre wrote: I believe 8kB RAM is the minimum MSX1 requirement. Not really, an MSX1 can boot with only 4kb. I haven't inspected the BIOS source code closely enough to say for sure, but I wouldn't be surprised if the PPI was not necessary. Ofcourse, no keyboard without it, so the

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-04 Thread Laurens Holst
--- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! - Original Message - From: "Patriek Lesparre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration > Laurens Holst wrote:

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-04 Thread Eduardo Robsy Petrus
Hi! For an MSX1 it will be enough with 8 KB RAM and 16 KB VRAM (if THE MSX RED BOOK is right about the MSX standard definition). MSX2 needs at least 64 KB of RAM and 64 KB of VRAM too. But no need of memory mapper, that's right (MSX2 Technical Handbook). Kind regards, Ed Robsy ___

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-04 Thread Patriek Lesparre
Laurens Holst wrote: Afaik MSX 1 BIOS only requires 16kB of RAM, and an engine to take care of several things. Oh, and a VDP, ofcourse. The BIOS will not work without it, even if it were only for the interrupt it generates. I believe 8kB RAM is the minimum MSX1 requirement. I haven't inspected t

Re: [MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-04 Thread Laurens Holst
mapper (VG8220?) I don't think the mapper is a necessity. ~Grauw --- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san nan da!! - Original Message - From: "Jun Sung Kim (???)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:06 AM Subj

[MSX] minimum hardware configuration

2003-02-03 Thread Jun Sung Kim (???)
Hi again, I'd like to know what is the minimum configuration of hardware for MSX BIOS to run. For example, If I have an existing MSX(2) BIOS ROM and have a strange board which has a Zx80, a RAM (whether mapper or not), a PPI and a VDP, can I expect MSX logo on screen? This question is the same