> Cristov Russell wrote:
> > Remove "Lead" since it's what people seem to have the most trouble
> > with and it's rarely used in credits. Background would stay
> since many
> > performers are actually credited as such. Also add beat boxed,
> > rapped/rhymed, hummed, spoke and change the vocal v
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Subject: Re: [mb-style] vocal type should be optional
On 16/01/06, Cristov Russell <
On 1/16/06, Simon Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you think it is ok to create collaboration artists for split releases
> if it is written like that on the covers? The different artists may not
> even have been involved in creating the release but I think we can
> consider an album a work
On 1/16/06, Schika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All that "V/A" albums are showing "track title" - "artist" on the Amazon
> pages. Maybe I understand you wrong, but do you want to have the albums
> taged like this way:
> TPE1 (lead performer) - frame: "Aphex Twin", TIT2 (song title) - frame:
> Aphex
On 16/01/06, Stefan Kestenholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > and i suppose you could argue that until such a system is in place, it
> > is unwise to delete data added via the 'old system' (ie that which
> > AlbumTitleProposal will discard) as that is currently the only way you
> > can see it in su
On 1/16/06, Don Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AlbumTitle]
> I have noted on the wiki that the ordering part is incorrect. Can anyone
> point me to the guideline that sais that the elements should be ordered by
> specificity (the most specific to the right)? I cannot
On 1/16/06, Steve Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, david scotson wrote:
> > If Picard (or a third party app) could work within the limitations of
> > current apps support for id3 and replace the track artist with the
> > album artist and modify the track title so that artists
david scotson wrote:
>On 1/16/06, Rod Begbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>On 1/16/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>tis ok :) i just am trying to work out what album artist means in the
>>>context of a tag.
>>>
>>>
>>Right now, with the current limitations of I
On 1/16/06, Nikki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, Macao and Macau seem to be interchangable,
i don't know how official you consider it, but the CIA factbook page
uses "Macau":
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mc.html
conventional long form: Macau Special Admi
Chris Bransden wrote:
>On 16/01/06, Stefan Kestenholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Ok, I get it. I'm sorry for snapping at you, maybe you didn't formulate well
>>enough or I'm off - because it sounded like you did not understand SG5DR
>>only targets the album artists.
>>
>>
>
>tis ok :)
On 1/16/06, Matthew Exon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The artist of a track is always the main artist, who
> >recorded/performed it, except for classical releases which are listed
> >under the composer. That means remixes are listed under the original
> >artist, cover versions under the artist per
david scotson wrote:
Right now, with the current limitations of ID3 tags, it's not terribly useful.
If Picard (or a third party app) could work within the limitations of
current apps support for id3 and replace the track artist with the
album artist and modify the track title so that artists o
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, david scotson wrote:
On 1/16/06, Rod Begbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 1/16/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
tis ok :) i just am trying to work out what album artist means in the
context of a tag.
Right now, with the current limitations of ID3 tags, it's
On 1/16/06, Rod Begbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/16/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > tis ok :) i just am trying to work out what album artist means in the
> > context of a tag.
>
> Right now, with the current limitations of ID3 tags, it's not terribly useful.
If Picard (or
Sorry. I did not even realize it was doing that. I don't get my messages
from the list and it is a Thunderbird extension that lets me hot swap
between emails accounts. Apparently it also has a feature for changing
the name on each account that I did not know about.
Mike
Stefan Kestenholz wrot
On 1/16/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> tis ok :) i just am trying to work out what album artist means in the
> context of a tag.
Right now, with the current limitations of ID3 tags, it's not terribly useful.
But to MB as a metadata database, it's a fantastic fix that will
hopeful
Don Redman wrote:
I have proposed a definition of release which has not been picked up.
I'd like some feedback on this:
A release is an event on a market.
A release is therefore defined by the combination of a date and a
descriptor of the market.
The difficulty lies in defining markets.
L
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 04:52:37PM +0100, Don Redman wrote:
> The difficulty lies in defining markets.
Exactly.
> It is no use to require the list of market desciptors to adhere to sone
> strict and arbitrary ISO rules. You cannot force the reality into a
> strict code. Adapt the code to reality
and i suppose you could argue that until such a system is in place, it
is unwise to delete data added via the 'old system' (ie that which
AlbumTitleProposal will discard) as that is currently the only way you
can see it in such players.
that might be the case, but this does not change anything t
could you please change the sender name of your e-mails (in your e-mail
client) from "MusicBrainz style discussion" to something useful?
I must look like a really picky person lately, but as the volume on this
mailing list is ever increasing, i feel need to remind people of policy when
it come
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 12:56:10PM +0100, Matthew Exon wrote:
> Yes, it should stay as just "Taiwan".
>
> Other points:
>
> Why is "Macau" being changed to "Macao"? Just interested really. I've
> always known it with a "u".
>
> Most people would look for "Holy See (Vatican City State)" under "
me wrote:
Next is a compilation of Dire Straits songs and solo songs from their
member Mark Knopfler. It seems to have appeared as a one disc release
and a two disc release:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009YCP28 and
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009YCP1O .
Though it
Sorry about that. I will use Users List in the future then.
Is this list appropriate for discussion of the rule guidelines using
concrete examples? My example of the Aphex Twin is more than just for
that one. I have/will be getting several remix albums and the whole
guideline on artist for rem
Hi!
A question about the album artist.. I'll show you the examples, better
than losing 200 words.
The first example is two albums containing songs from two unrelated bands:
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B8DCS0.03.LZZZ.jpg
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0009X75SS.03.LZ
On 1/16/06, Matthew Exon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don Redman wrote:
> >A pretty simple enhancement could allow contributors to select some
> >special release areas during the input process, and could translate that
> >into the corresponding states.
> >You klick on EU and it enters a release rec
On 16/01/06, Stefan Kestenholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, I get it. I'm sorry for snapping at you, maybe you didn't formulate well
> enough or I'm off - because it sounded like you did not understand SG5DR
> only targets the album artists.
tis ok :) i just am trying to work out what album ar
Don Redman wrote:
I have proposed a definition of release which has not been picked up. I'd
like some feedback on this:
A release is an event on a market.
A release is therefore defined by the combination of a date and a
descriptor of the market.
The difficulty lies in defining markets.
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Don Redman wrote:
The UK are not part of the Schengen treaty. It is therefore possible to
release a record in the whole of the EU except the UK, because of customs
regulations.
I believe the Schengen zone is just for the purposes of immigration and
entry control (visas)
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 13:32:19 +0100, Jan van Thiel wrote:
I've updated http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AlbumTitle (formerly
ReleaseTitle). I'd also like to propose this to be made official. I
believe I've captured the current situation well, so it's sort of a
formalization. Only thing I've added is t
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 03:24:28 +0100, Michael Blank wrote:
I posted the following to the User's list before I realized there is a
separate Style list. Sorry if this may have been hammered into the
ground already. I did look at the RemixStyle page, but it did not say
specifically who to put in the
Michael Blank wrote:
Hello, Got a question about how or if I should annotate these tracks.
Again: This is off topic. Please keep such discussions our of here.
mb-style is pretty high volume already.
DonRedman
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:54:18 +0100, Björn Krombholz wrote:
On 1/15/06, Schika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sony Music's sublabel Sony Computer Entertainment Europe ->
http://www.discogs.com/label/Sony+Computer+Entertainment+Europe <-
released in example the Wipeout PS2 Game & Soundtracks for *Eu
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:38:03 +0100, Marco Sola wrote:
On Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:17 AM,
Tarragon M. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It seems roughly agreed that adding EU and other continents and
regions is not a good idea.
Sorry if I'm bothering but this statement IMHO should be:
"The
Ok, I get it. I'm sorry for snapping at you, maybe you didn't formulate well
enough or I'm off - because it sounded like you did not understand SG5DR
only targets the album artists.
Every track is tagged one-by-one, thus the Track Artist (The artist name
which is listed nearby the song title) is u
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:24:48 +0100, Nikki wrote:
I figured this deserves a new thread because the old one is getting
rather
long and messy.
I have created a page on the wiki [1] with a list of the changes I
proposed
in more detail and also tried to summarise the arguments for and against
a
On 16/01/06, Stefan Kestenholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Huh? Jan did not say anything about the tracks, only the album artist. This
> is what SG5DR is about!
i know what SG5DR is about, thanks. But till now I've never considered
it from a tagger point of view - only the database. what i want t
On 1/16/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ahhh, yr right! forgot about that. still unclear about what happens
> when you tag, say, a DJ mix album - do the tracks all get credited to
> the DJ mixer, rather than the original artists? if so, is the original
> artists credits put into the
They go to the original artist. The dj-mixer would be in a seperate
%albumartist% field.
Chris Bransden wrote:
ahhh, yr right! forgot about that. still unclear about what happens
when you tag, say, a DJ mix album - do the tracks all get credited to
the DJ mixer, rather than the original artist
Huh? Jan did not say anything about the tracks, only the album artist. This
is what SG5DR is about! I would like to expect from people participating in
discussions to read up on the past discussions before posting.
> ahhh, yr right! forgot about that. still unclear about what happens
> when you ta
ahhh, yr right! forgot about that. still unclear about what happens
when you tag, say, a DJ mix album - do the tracks all get credited to
the DJ mixer, rather than the original artists? if so, is the original
artists credits put into the tag at all?
On 16/01/06, Jan van Thiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
On 1/16/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whilst I agree with getting rid of this stuff from the title in
> principle, I also think we need to be sure that AR > Tag processes are
> either being developed, or are on the cards to be developed in the
> immediate future, before we do it.
Whilst I agree with getting rid of this stuff from the title in
principle, I also think we need to be sure that AR > Tag processes are
either being developed, or are on the cards to be developed in the
immediate future, before we do it.
otherwise, we're essentially hiding this information.
On 16/
Björn Krombholz wrote:
On 1/16/06, General discussions about MusicBrainz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And I do agree that the song could not exist without either artist. I am
not trying to argue that. I am just trying to get an affirmative
clarification of which way it should go.
The artist of a
On 1/16/06, Björn Krombholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/16/06, Schika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do we get rid now of that "(Mixed by DJ-NAME-HERE)" in the album titles
> > or not? The ReleaseTitle wikipage suggests we should add it, which would
> > be another point where MB is abusing co
From: Lukas Lalinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'd just like to note that this one is probably not the best idea:
> Change (mostly for consistency):
> * TW Taiwan to Taiwan, Province of China
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-devel/2005-July/001186.html
Yes, it should stay as jus
http://wmg.jp/artist/alanis/WPCR0.html
There's the discography entry on her Japanese label's site for the
album, it does indeed list Sister Blister as a bonus track along with
"Sorry to Myself" I'd consider it not a non-album track then.
And unlike a lot of English label sites, Japane
Cristov Russell wrote:
Remove "Lead" since it's what people seem to have the most trouble with and
it's rarely used in credits. Background would stay since many performers are
actually credited as such. Also add beat boxed, rapped/rhymed, hummed, spoke
and change the vocal verbiage to "Sang vocal
On 16/01/06, Cristov Russell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Remove "Lead" since it's what people seem to have the most trouble with and
> it's rarely used in credits. Background would stay since many performers are
> actually credited as such. Also add beat boxed, rapped/rhymed, hummed, spoke
> and c
On 15/01/06, Björn Krombholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But isn't this a bit inconsistent? Listing the manufacturer country
> for 99% of the cases and the release country for the other 1%?
nooo, in discogs you *generally* list the label's country, not
manufacturer - they aren't always one and th
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