Re: [mb-style] RFC: new AR type is the predecessor of

2006-05-30 Thread dj empirical
On 5/29/06, Don Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 29 May 2006 19:24:32 +0200, Simon Reinhardt wrote: Does this only apply to groups? If so the phrase should reflect this. I think so, we have other AR types for persons. what would be appropriate for Adamski [1], who eventually went by

Re: [mb-style] ArtistAlias and PerformanceNameStyle conflict / Whatmakes an Alias?

2006-05-30 Thread Chris Bransden
On 29/05/06, joan WHITTAKER [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would you also do the same to Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship and Starship, all of whom have separate and distinct entries in the mb database. Jefferson Airplane was formed in 1965 and released albums under that name until 1974.

Re: [mb-style] RFV #2: Amazon Relationship Type

2006-05-30 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
I'm not so sure we should link to user-created pages if they disappear once the user's item has been bought. do they? ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org

Re: [mb-style] RFV #2: Amazon Relationship Type

2006-05-30 Thread Nikki
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:54:54AM +0200, Stefan Kestenholz wrote: I'm not so sure we should link to user-created pages if they disappear once the user's item has been bought. do they? According to the email I was replying to. I've no idea how Amazon really works, things just seem to

Re: [mb-style] RFV #2: Amazon Relationship Type

2006-05-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2006/5/30, Stefan Kestenholz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not so sure we should link to user-created pages if they disappear once the user's item has been bought. do they? In my example, the page is still there, but the owner sold the album in the last 2 weeks. There isn't any chance the seller

Re: [mb-style] RFV #2: Amazon Relationship Type

2006-05-30 Thread Chris Bransden
On 30/05/06, Stefan Kestenholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not so sure we should link to user-created pages if they disappear once the user's item has been bought. do they? even if they don't, they seem to remain even when legit pages for that release exist (presumably added after the user

[mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
What do we do with mods like http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4909762 (other links in notes there). It's a bootleg with an (apparently) notoriously confused tracklisting. My instinct would be to fix the tracklisting and add an annotation; however, this may make the album a bit harder to

Re: [mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Schika
On 5/30/06, Bogdan Butnaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the annotations are visible only on the extended albumview. That's odd and now I see why a lot of unneeded mods are comming up again and again. This should be changed. -- .: NOP AND NIL :..: Schika :.

Re: [mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Chris Bransden
On 30/05/06, Bogdan Butnaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do we do with mods like http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4909762 (other links in notes there). It's a bootleg with an (apparently) notoriously confused tracklisting. My instinct would be to fix the tracklisting and add an

Re: [mb-style] RFC: new AR type is the predecessor of

2006-05-30 Thread dj empirical
On 5/30/06, Simon Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's just another peformance name? It's rendered perfectly in the db at the moment, don't see a problem here. yes, i guess you're right. sorry, it was late when i asked that question. ;) i think i was confusing myself, since in this

Re: [mb-style] RFC: new AR type is the predecessor of

2006-05-30 Thread derGraph
dj empirical wrote: since in this case there's a definite order to the performance names, whereas with many others the performance names have no definite order. If you know the dates when the artist started / ended to use a performance name, you should add them. This will help determining

Re: [mb-style] RFC: new AR type is the predecessor of

2006-05-30 Thread derGraph
Simon Reinhardt wrote: derGraph wrote: Of course! With artists, albums and tracks as nodes and ARs as vertices, the data we already have make an immensely large directed graph, and people like Shepard spend much time to expand it. With that directed graph you could for example determine ...

Re: [mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
On 5/30/06, Chris Bransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/05/06, Bogdan Butnaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] the annotations are visible only on the extended album view. not sure what you mean about extended album view? I mean you need to actually click on the album; in the artist page (with

Re: [mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Chris Bransden
On 30/05/06, Bogdan Butnaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/30/06, Chris Bransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/05/06, Bogdan Butnaru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] the annotations are visible only on the extended album view. not sure what you mean about extended album view? I mean you need

Re: [mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
that's a good argument to the case that we need to add japanese version special version with bonus tracks etc. to the release titles ;) no honestly: annotations already are used for much more things that they were intended for (i guess), but the core tables lack certain fields which would be

Re: [mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Aaron Cooper
I'd love to help. I know a bit of Java, C#, C++... I've got two other comp. eng. roomates who I can bug for help, too. :) I'm probably not the best person for the job, but I'm throwing myself out there just incase. -Aaron (cooperaa) On 5/30/06, Stefan Kestenholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [mb-style] wrong tracklistings

2006-05-30 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
cool! I'd love to help. I know a bit of Java, C#, C++... I've got two ok, none of the languages match perl, which is the one we use, but i did not know perl when i started with MB either. have you subscribed to mb-devel yet? i'm currently about to wrap up a new server release, and we'd

[mb-style] Altering (especially translating) lyricist

2006-05-30 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Hi, Bogdan earlier hinted at the many versions of songs in other languages [1]. Whether one wants to link those to the original versions or not is one question (thinking in NGS I wouldn't use the OtherVersionRelationshipType because it's not only a different recording but also has altered

Re: [mb-style] ArtistAlias and PerformanceNameStyle conflict / Whatmakes an Alias?

2006-05-30 Thread Steve Wyles
On Tue, 30 May 2006, Chris Bransden wrote: It's about what you'd want to see as a user - I am of the opinion that the same band should be under the same name, and I believe this was the intension of the ArtistAlias page. Artist aliases are used to aid searching for mis-spellings or typos of

Re: [mb-style] ArtistAlias and PerformanceNameStyle conflict / Whatmakes an Alias?

2006-05-30 Thread Chris Bransden
On 30/05/06, Steve Wyles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 May 2006, Chris Bransden wrote: It's about what you'd want to see as a user - I am of the opinion that the same band should be under the same name, and I believe this was the intension of the ArtistAlias page. Artist aliases are

Re: [mb-style] ArtistAlias and PerformanceNameStyle conflict / Whatmakes an Alias?

2006-05-30 Thread Steve Wyles
On Tue, 30 May 2006, Chris Bransden wrote: My stance is similar to Don's. I think they should be under the same artist where possible, but when the names (intentionally) represent distinct styles, keep them seperate. They do represent distinctly different styles. You obviously don't know the

Re: [mb-style] RFV #2: Amazon Relationship Type

2006-05-30 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
Ok, I am convinced. I would be perfectly happy if we had a way to check that an old Amazon link doesn't prevent a new one from displaying the image. But since I can't see any way just by looking at the URL to determine if the linked page is a standard or a user page, I guess we will have to rely