Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/29/2010 11:35 PM, jacobbrett wrote: I'm bothered by the typewritten track listings example. What if an artist intended to mean figure dash, but could only type hyphen, or em-dash, but could only type two hyphens? I think these cases should be intelligently translated; I'm not convinced

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/30/2010 11:53 AM, Bogdan Butnaru wrote: 2) Use of the hyphen to separate date components is not only *extremely* common, it is AFAIK dictated by the ISO8601 standard (and many standards based on it, including XQuery (personal experience), and now that I think of it pretty much all

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread Nikki
Alex Mauer wrote: On 11/29/2010 12:12 PM, Nikki wrote: Hmm... I have a couple of issues with it at the moment. I don't understand what the ditto mark is doing there... It's not a quotation mark and where exactly would we use it anyway? Because it’s one of those items for which a neutral

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/30/2010 10:32 AM, Alex Mauer wrote: I agree with that. It’s been brought up by others as well. I’ve removed that bit in favor of just referencing Artist Intent. I’m still not happy with the strength of A.I. (It’s way too hard to prove) but you’re right that giving track listings too

Re: [mb-style] Producer vs Composer and remixes in hip hop music

2010-11-30 Thread Nikki
Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: Some kind of created the beat for AR could be added, but even though it would be a good description, it is not the way it is usually credited anywhere, so it might be confusing. Putting a flag on the Producer AR that makes it go to work level would be

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread Paul C. Bryan
I can't see how you're going to be able to avoid the AI argument; artists most often do not perform their own copywriting and cover artwork. Was the use of a fixed-point font on the cover the artist's decision? Their copywriter? Their label? Did they use two hyphens for the master recording? Did

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread Alex Mauer
On 11/30/2010 01:21 PM, Nikki wrote: The page isn't grouped by the ASCII characters though, it's grouped by function (double prime isn't under quotation marks, single quotes aren't under apostrophe...). The section also says *common* variations and like you, I can't think of any situation

Re: [mb-style] Producer vs Composer and remixes in hip hop music

2010-11-30 Thread Calvin Walton
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 04:30 +0100, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Nikki aei...@gmail.com wrote: Right now, we have a track-track karaoke version relationship for them. In NGS, the relationship is kept between the recordings, and

Re: [mb-style] Producer vs Composer and remixes in hip hop music

2010-11-30 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Nikki aei...@gmail.com wrote: Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote: Some kind of created the beat for AR could be added, but even though it would be a good description, it is not the way it is usually credited anywhere, so it might be confusing. Putting a

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread Brian Schweitzer
Sorry to not have spent a lot of time lately looking at this proposal; I've been traveling for the holidays. Other editors can later edit with preferred characters. I know what this is supposed to mean, but this sentence doesn't really seem to say it all that well. Perhaps something like Those

Re: [mb-style] RFV: Removed banned characters (from misc. guideline)

2010-11-30 Thread jacobbrett
Paul C. Bryan-2 wrote: I can't see how you're going to be able to avoid the AI argument; artists most often do not perform their own copywriting and cover artwork. Was the use of a fixed-point font on the cover the artist's decision? Their copywriter? Their label? Did they use two

[mb-style] Follow up on [traditional]

2010-11-30 Thread Brian Schweitzer
It's been a couple of weeks since [traditional] was reintroduced. I took a look just now, to see what's going on in there, and it's not impressive. Ignoring the dupe, there's 5 VA RGs in there at the moment ( see http://musicbrainz.org/artist/9be7f096-97ec-4615-8957-8d40b5dcbc41.html ). I did a

Re: [mb-style] RFC: Modify edit conditions for destructive edits

2010-11-30 Thread Rob Keeney
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