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2013/3/5 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:41 AM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote:
The first part of a Classical Works guideline.
http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-195
Per feedback in the #musicbrainz IRC channel, I have drafted an amendment
to the existing guidelines.
Wiki page: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Leftmostcat/Style/Release
Sean Burke
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Sean Burke leftmost...@gmail.com wrote:
JIRA ticket:
On 03/07/2013 11:15 AM, Sean Burke wrote:
Per feedback in the #musicbrainz IRC channel, I have drafted an
amendment to the existing guidelines.
Wiki page: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Leftmostcat/Style/Release
+1
-- kuno / warp.
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http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Symphonick/Has_Arrangement_Relationship_Type
Proposal rewritten. Resetting the clock; it will expire on Thursday, March
14.
Can anyone suggest a non-classical arrangement work? Maybe something
jazzy?
/symphonick
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2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Symphonick/Has_Arrangement_Relationship_Type
Proposal rewritten. Resetting the clock; it will expire on Thursday, March
14.
Can anyone suggest a non-classical arrangement work? Maybe something
jazzy?
Not jazz:
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On 06/03/2013 21:31, Simon Reinhardt wrote:
Lastly, a general remark for future development: There are many kinds
of events we could capture, many date fields and place fields and ARs
we could add. But I wouldn't want this to turn into BiographyBrainz
so we should restrain ourselves here. We
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2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Symphonick/Has_Arrangement_Relationship_Type
Proposal rewritten. Resetting the clock; it will expire on Thursday,
March 14.
Can anyone suggest a non-classical
I agree, I always found it unacceptable that Tchaikovsky's country was
listed as the Russian Federation.
Perhaps like we see in a lot of places, we can have the modern equivalent
shown as well. Such as Russian Empire (present day Russian Federation) or
something like that. Or maybe it would make
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2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Symphonick/Has_Arrangement_Relationship_Type
Proposal rewritten. Resetting the clock; it will expire on Thursday,
March 14.
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The proposed change in the guideline may result in tracks being credited to
the release artist even though it is well known that another artist is the
performer.
For an example see http://musicbrainz.org/edit/21243677
Two more examples: track 8 on
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2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:Symphonick/Has_Arrangement_Relationship_Type
Proposal rewritten. Resetting
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:42 PM, MeinDummy meindu...@nurfuerspam.de wrote:
-1
The proposed change in the guideline may result in tracks being credited to
the release artist even though it is well known that another artist is the
performer.
Indeed, that would seem to be the point of artist
2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
48hrs no vetos; this proposal is accepted.
I noticed that apparently
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Specific_types_of_releases/Opera is an
official guideline, but it's outdated and it also conflicts with the new
works guideline (maybe not in theory;
Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:42 PM, MeinDummy lt;
MeinDummy@
gt; wrote:
-1
The proposed change in the guideline may result in tracks being credited
to
the release artist even though it is well known that another artist is
the
performer.
Indeed, that
On 03/06/2013 07:32 AM, Kuno Woudt wrote:
On 03/06/2013 03:09 PM, Sean Burke wrote:
JIRA ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-197
Yes, track artists should always be whatever appears in the artist
column at digital retailers [1] or something similar to an artist column
on a
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On 03/07/2013 08:10 AM, caller#6 wrote:
It's not uncommon in artist-specific jazz compilations* to indicate
specific track artists in the liner notes.
I guess an example would've been nice :-)
http://www.discogs.com/Steve-Winwood-Winwood/master/324433
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:01 AM, MeinDummy meindu...@nurfuerspam.de wrote:
Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:42 PM, MeinDummy lt;
MeinDummy@
gt; wrote:
-1
The proposed change in the guideline may result in tracks being credited
to
the release artist even
Hello,
On 03/07/2013 05:10 PM, caller#6 wrote:
On 03/06/2013 07:32 AM, Kuno Woudt wrote:
On 03/06/2013 03:09 PM, Sean Burke wrote:
JIRA ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-197
Yes, track artists should always be whatever appears in the artist
column at digital retailers
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2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
Why should we avoid historical countries?
What about ex-Empires like Russian Empire, British Empire or Prussia?
OK Russian Federation is heir of Russian Empire like it is for UK British
Empire. But what about all the other territories that after collapse of
these Empires formed new countries.
On 03/07/2013 09:54 AM, Kuno Woudt wrote:
If the track is not clearly credited on the back cover tracklisting, I
consider that implicitly credited to the release artist -- although I
would prefer it if the track and release artist credit fields would be
optional for those situations where is
-1
I can't see how a description on how to format '''tracks''' would conflict
with the new guideline on '''works'''. I think these (even if partly
outdated) CSG guidelines should be maintained at least until we have new,
better guidelines for classical/opera at release and track level. It's
still
On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Edgars Ducens saluta...@gmail.com wrote:
Why should we avoid historical countries?
What about ex-Empires like Russian Empire, British Empire or Prussia?
OK Russian Federation is heir of Russian Empire like it is for UK British
Empire. But what about all the
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
48hrs no vetos; this proposal is accepted.
I noticed that apparently
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Specific_types_of_releases/Opera is an
official guideline, but it's
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:55 PM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/3/7 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com
2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
2013/3/7 Frederic Da Vitoria davito...@gmail.com
2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
2013/3/7 Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/3/7 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 7:55 PM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote:
to someone who can fix things: I can't find the non classical works
guideline above from Style, looks like it's under Development -
Terminology.
You can't find
2013/3/7 Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren reosare...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:51 PM, symphonick symphon...@gmail.com wrote:
I noticed that apparently
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Specific_types_of_releases/Opera is an
official guideline, but it's outdated and it also conflicts with
Somewhat related; would you consider it useful to have a performed
arrangement of AR? Maybe like this:
[Recording] is a recording of an arrangement of [Work]
Sounds a little clumsy, maybe. But Cover and instrumental don't really
cover (ha!) every situation.
/symphonick
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2013/3/7
2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
2013/3/7 symphonick symphon...@gmail.com
48hrs no vetos; this proposal is accepted.
I noticed that apparently
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Specific_types_of_releases/Opera is an
official guideline, but it's outdated and it also conflicts with
On 03/04/2013 03:06 PM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Dainis Jonitis joni...@gmail.com wrote:
Some time passed since RFC was sent and the feedback was mostly
positive. Proceeding to RFV stage.
Expected time of passing is 2013-03-07 in the UTC morning.
No
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 03/04/2013 03:06 PM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren wrote:
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Dainis Jonitis joni...@gmail.com
wrote:
Some time passed since RFC was sent and the feedback was mostly
positive. Proceeding
After a long interval, I am reviving the RFC for STYLE-121, track numbering.
Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-121
Proposal:
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/?title=User:Hawke/Proposal/Track_numbering
Expiration: 2013-03-14
Changes since last RFC:
* Added a note that CDs cannot
On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:33 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
After a long interval, I am reviving the RFC for STYLE-121, track numbering.
Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-121
Proposal:
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/?title=User:Hawke/Proposal/Track_numbering
Reopening this now, with the type renamed to Prose.
Expected End Time: 2013-03-14, 23:59 GMT
JIRA Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-194
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On 03/07/2013 05:33 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
After a long interval, I am reviving the RFC for STYLE-121, track numbering.
Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-121
Proposal:
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/?title=User:Hawke/Proposal/Track_numbering
Expiration: 2013-03-14
Correction:
On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:44 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 03/07/2013 05:33 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
After a long interval, I am reviving the RFC for STYLE-121, track numbering.
Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-121
Proposal:
Rachel: Although the link says *vinyl* track numbering, I think this proposal
actually applies to all types of mediums, and not specifically vinyl (the
name seems to be left over from an earlier version). The only
conditions/cases seem to be the ones in the guideline.
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On 03/07/2013 05:33 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
After a long interval, I am reviving the RFC for STYLE-121, track numbering.
Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-121
Proposal:
http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/?title=User:Hawke/Proposal/Track_numbering
Expiration: 2013-03-14
I need some
On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 03/07/2013 05:33 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
After a long interval, I am reviving the RFC for STYLE-121, track numbering.
Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-121
Proposal:
I would strongly dislike the introduction of nationality: That's a can of
worms. Outsourcing the country issue to an external authority was one of
the wiser decisions of the community. I wouldn't mingle with that. And the
introduction of historical geographic entities isn't less controversial and
+1
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:41 AM, LordSputnik ben.s...@gmail.com wrote:
Reopening this now, with the type renamed to Prose.
Expected End Time: 2013-03-14, 23:59 GMT
JIRA Ticket: http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/STYLE-194
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On 3/7/2013 6:53 PM, Ross Tyler wrote:
Sides are not always lettered (e.g. A, B, ...).
Understood, but I don't think it's a good idea to store that. How do we
do the actual track number then? Is track 1 on the first side 11?
I'm trying to avoid having a weird incantation of separators. We
On 03/07/2013 07:35 PM, Alex Mauer wrote:
On 3/7/2013 6:53 PM, Ross Tyler wrote:
Sides are not always lettered (e.g. A, B, ...).
Understood, but I don't think it's a good idea to store that. How do we
do the actual track number then? Is track 1 on the first side 11?
We disagree.
Furthermore, I
Hi,
Great! Thanks everyone. Will use movie and theater tags to
distinguish soundtrack types.
Dainis
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
reosare...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Alex Mauer ha...@hawkesnest.net wrote:
On 03/04/2013 03:06 PM, Nicolás
On Mar 8, 2013, at 12:55 AM, Dainis Jonitis joni...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Great! Thanks everyone. Will use movie and theater tags to
distinguish soundtrack types.
Dainis
I assume Television, Game, etc., are admissible as well?
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:14 AM, Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
On 3/7/2013 10:12 PM, Ross Tyler wrote:
Or, said another way, why it is *right* to lose this information.
I have not heard one.
No information is lost compared to the status quo which is that we don't
store *any* side information at all.
I thought we were talking about vinyl. There is no
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