Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
I feel uneasy about "unmastered". I know what you mean, but I fear some users could understand it otherwise. OTOH, your definition states that a track may be a source for editing, so that a recording can use a mastered source, but still... I believe mastering should not be part of the first sentenc

[mb-style] RFV STYLE-216: Allow linking to Wikidata

2013-05-05 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
Wikidata (http://www.wikidata.org/), the linked-data project from Wikimedia, now links to MBIDs, so there's no reason for us not to map back to them. Additionally, we want to add Wikidata relationships to areas (being added May 15) since we're getting datafrom them and thus we have the mapping anyw

Re: [mb-style] RFV STYLE-216: Allow linking to Wikidata

2013-05-05 Thread lixobix
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Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread lixobix
What about an edit made from a mastered track? Would that not be interpreted as 'mastered', therefore excluded? As I mentioned in my last post, I think stating the sources are important, rather than defining 'recording' negatively. Also, not mastered could be construed as meaning that anything that

Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread Tom Crocker
I agree with davitof that unmastered probably shouldn't be in there. I think it muddles a very clean opening definition. I don't think you need to worry that it *could* be mastered because your second sentence says it can't. Your first sentence doesn't say *any* representation of sound, just *a* re

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines

2013-05-05 Thread RocknRollArchivist
About remastered recordings again. https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:LordSputnik/Proposals/Style/Recording : "Remastering should be described using the Remaster Relationship Type between releases, or in the release annotation where tracks are mastered differently across a release." A simple and wid

Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
To my French ears, "reproducible" could mean that it can be listened or that it could be copied. I guess you intend the first meaning. Wouldn't it be better to add a mention that we only mean representations which can be "played" or listened to or heard (native English speakers will pick the correc

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines

2013-05-05 Thread LordSputnik
That's an very specific case - I wouldn't add mastering information to such a release, and wouldn't expect others to until there's a better solution. It's likely that there will be a master entity at some point, or a better way of using tracks between releases. However, this guideline has already

Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread LordSputnik
Tom Crocker wrote > I agree with davitof that unmastered probably shouldn't be in there. I > think it muddles a very clean opening definition. I don't think you need > to > worry that it *could* be mastered because your second sentence says it > can't. No, the second sentence doesn't rule out crea

Re: [mb-style] RFC: STYLE-208 - New Recordings Guidelines

2013-05-05 Thread Tom Crocker
Although which level of master should be employed will be an interesting debate if/when that begins On 5 May 2013 19:50, LordSputnik wrote: > That's an very specific case - I wouldn't add mastering information to > such a > release, and wouldn't expect others to until there's a better solution.

Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread Tom Crocker
On 5 May 2013 20:06, LordSputnik wrote: > Tom Crocker wrote > > I agree with davitof that unmastered probably shouldn't be in there. I > > think it muddles a very clean opening definition. I don't think you need > > to > > worry that it *could* be mastered because your second sentence says it > >

Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread LordSputnik
Tom Crocker wrote > It seems that's what davitof thought too - I'm not sure whether anything > extra is needed there though (i.e., it's fine just without reproducible) Yeah, we could get away without reproducible, but I think we need unmastered, because a recording isn't mastered in any way while

Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2013/5/5 LordSputnik > Tom Crocker wrote > > It seems that's what davitof thought too - I'm not sure whether anything > > extra is needed there though (i.e., it's fine just without reproducible) > > Yeah, we could get away without reproducible, but I think we need > unmastered, because a recordin

Re: [mb-style] Alternative Recording Definitions

2013-05-05 Thread Tom Crocker
It was the 'tracks as release tracks' bit I hadn't got. I'd be interested to see the kind of thing you're thinking of. ___ MusicBrainz-style mailing list MusicBrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-sty