Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-20 Thread Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen
2007/9/20, Chidade [EMAIL PROTECTED]: zap Anyway, perhaps one extra sentence won't hurt? Additional sentences generally put more information to the reader, thus increasing the chance of information overload. Thus hurting. 1. All ArtistSortNames must be in Latin script. Where the ArtistName is in

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-20 Thread Kuno Woudt
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:00:55AM +0200, Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen wrote: 2007/9/20, Chidade [EMAIL PROTECTED]: zap Anyway, perhaps one extra sentence won't hurt? Additional sentences generally put more information to the reader, thus increasing the chance of information overload. Thus

[mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style (round 2)

2007-09-20 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Here is the (hopefully) final propsal for changed sort name style: 1. All ArtistSortNames must be in Latin script. If the ArtistName is in a non-Latin script, use the transliterated or translated name by which the artist is commonly known. Chidade, the general opinion (this includes me) seems to

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-20 Thread Chidade
Fair enough. Feel free to go ahead with the RFV again then. -Chidade. On 20/09/2007, Kuno Woudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 08:00:55AM +0200, Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen wrote: 2007/9/20, Chidade [EMAIL PROTECTED]: zap Anyway, perhaps one extra sentence won't hurt?

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-19 Thread Steve Wyles
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: 1. All ArtistSortNames must be in Latin script. ArtistSortNames in all other scripts should use the transliterated or translated name in Latin script by which they are commonly known. I feel the second sentence is a little confusing, I think this

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Hmm, maybe I was too fast to RFV. Reading the suggestion again I'm not sure what the pronoun they is pointing to. Also removed some words that weren't really necessary (in context). 1. All ArtistSortNames must be in Latin script. Where the ArtistName is in a non-Latin script, use the Latin

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-19 Thread Kuno Woudt
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 05:38:47PM +0800, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Hmm, maybe I was too fast to RFV. 1. All ArtistSortNames must be in Latin script. Where the ArtistName is in a non-Latin script, use the Latin script transliterated or translated name by which the Artist is commonly known.

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
Yep, I assumed that the RFV would have to re-issued regardless. Your last suggestion is better/simpler still. Does anyone have anything to object before we go through the motions again? Philip On 9/19/07, Kuno Woudt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 05:38:47PM +0800, Philip

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-19 Thread Chidade
I like kuno's version. But perhaps the description should also mention something about other transl*tions being entered as ArtistAlises? Chidade On 19/09/2007, Philip Jägenstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, I assumed that the RFV would have to re-issued regardless. Your last suggestion is

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-19 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
While it's true that other possible names should be entered as aliases, I think it's understood anyway, this isn't really the place to elaborate on it. It should all be covered by http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ArtistAlias already and if it isn't, it should be. Philip On 9/19/07, Chidade [EMAIL

Re: [mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-19 Thread Chidade
Maybe, but I'm thinking from the point of view of a new editor, who gets overwhelmed by the amount of information in the wiki and different style guidelines (I've been there myself). Having a line about alternate transl*taions being ArtistAliases can help avoid new editors changing around

[mb-style] RFV: non-Latin artist sort name style

2007-09-18 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
The previous discussion seems to more or less have settled, so I am submitting a request for veto on my proposal. There was some concern over the use of best, so I changed it to the deliberately vaguer commonly. This should leave sufficient room for letting the voters decide on tricky cases where