Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:31:54PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > Yes, but it's much less likely to happen... a spammer would have to go > to a lot of effort (comparatively) to sign up for a list like this... > and spamming a list of largely technical people would be dumb anyway. i disagree. it wo

Re: Attachments MIME- or UUencoded

2002-09-01 Thread Michael Tatge
Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > Obviously I wasn't clear, so please allow me to try again. I would > like to send attachments from my mutt/Linux to my Psion PsiMail > client. The attachments sent from mutt (of course MIME, sorry to all, > please hang on), base64 encoded, cannot be use

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Sep 01, Peter T. Abplanalp [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 04:31:54PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > > Yes, but it's much less likely to happen... a spammer would have to go > > to a lot of effort (comparatively) to sign up for a list like this... > > and spamming a list of l

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > (BTW, if anyone thinks calling them "the enemy", etc. is overly > melodramatic, remember that spam in recent years has moved more and > more from printer toner to all manner of pr0n, beastiality, etc. > spams, and many of us are stuck trying to keep our

automatic check-traditional-pgp

2002-09-01 Thread Heiko Heil
Hello Mutt-users, many people don't care about RFCs and sign/encrypt their E-Mails traditionally. As I don't want to press ESC-P for each message I want mutt to do this automatically (like Mozilla+Enigmail does). Any hints? -- Thx in advance... :-) Cheers, Heiko Heil

Re: Attachments MIME- or UUencoded

2002-09-01 Thread Sven Guckes
* Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > Obviously I wasn't clear, so please allow me to try again. I > would like to send attachments from my mutt/Linux to my Psion > PsiMail client. The attachments sent from mutt (of course MIME, > sorry to all, please hang on), base64 encoded, cannot be u

Re: automatic check-traditional-pgp

2002-09-01 Thread Sven Guckes
* Heiko Heil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 15:06]: > many people don't care about RFCs and sign/encrypt their E-Mails > traditionally. As I don't want to press ESC-P for each message I want > mutt to do this automatically (like Mozilla+Enigmail does). Any hints? use the "display_filter" to invo

Re: Attachments MIME- or UUencoded

2002-09-01 Thread Michael Tatge
Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "mydomain", huh? What's wrong with that? Michael -- "...Deep Hack Mode--that mysterious and frightening state of consciousness where Mortal Users fear to tread." (By Matt Welsh) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-

Re: Attachments MIME- or UUencoded

2002-09-01 Thread Andre Berger
* Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-09-01 11:25 -0400: > * Andre Berger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > Obviously I wasn't clear, so please allow me to try again. I > > would like to send attachments from my mutt/Linux to my Psion > > PsiMail client. The attachments sent from mutt (of course

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread 1RmSchlHse
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Eugen Leitl wrote: if your kids are young they shouldn't be surfing the net alone. If they're a bit bigger you should educate them, so they can tell shit from shinola on their own. This will help you, and them, especially when you're not there to look over their shoulders. +

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Sep 01, Eugen Leitl [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > The problem of spam is easily solvable for technically proficient users. > Depening on your philosophy, install SpamAssassin/Vipul's Razor or a > tagged message delivery system, and set up a few filters on MUA's side. > > Once in a while check

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Ken Weingold
On Sat, Aug 31, 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > No, I will feel chained to my mail servers as people take that attitude, > which has the nice effect of making it so they don't see the spam in their > inbox, but the mail servers still see it and have to not only deal with it > as normal, but also hav

Re: followups (was Re: mutt and gnupg setup)

2002-09-01 Thread Markus Nißl
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 03:03:01PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > Markus Nißl wrote: > > > > I will do so! Thanks again. > > > > BTW: no "cc:" to my address necessary, I'm subscribed to this > > list for a year now. > > well you're the one who has: > Mail-Followup-To: Markus Nißl <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: automatic check-traditional-pgp

2002-09-01 Thread Heiko Heil
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 05:12:21PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > use the "display_filter" to invoke pgp on the message.. I found out another solution which is quite simple: macro index "" -- Cheers, Heiko Heil

Re: spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > No, I will feel chained to my mail servers as people take that attitude, > > which has the nice effect of making it so they don't see the spam in their I didn't realize the guy was arguing from a mail admin

Re: [OT] spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Jeremy Blosser
On Sep 01, Eugen Leitl [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > > I've been noticing that one too. I'm not familiar with Vipul's or > > TMDA, but Spamassassin has a rule for when the From: and To: are the > > same. > > I think from the ISP mail server admin's point

Re: [OT] spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 14:13 -0500]: > Considering that we aren't using any pattern matching, no. (Vipul's is > checksumming + network query, And unusable because its database is filled with too many wrong submissions, most probably because of clueless users that automa

Re: Attachments MIME- or UUencoded -> PDA problem

2002-09-01 Thread Sven Guckes
* Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 16:32]: > > > :r! uuencode file file > > > > does Andre really want to manually convert > > every file before sending it on to his PDA? > > I (Andre) don't mind hitting ":r! uuencode file file", > as I'm using vim anyway. You (Sven) could have pointed

Threading is not enabled.

2002-09-01 Thread sam
I am trying to figure out how to get mutt into threading mode. >From the doc's, it says to use Esc - t, but when I do that, I get 'Threading is not enabled.'. Also, I was using mutt 1.2.5i on another machine, when I copied over the .muutrc to this machine, which is running 1.4i, it does not

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Sven Guckes
* Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 19:57]: > I am trying to figure out how to get mutt into threading mode. > From the doc's, it says to use Esc - t, but > when I do that, I get 'Threading is not enabled.'. the command "tag-thread" only makes sense when the folder index is sorted by threads. t

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread sam
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:12:58PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 19:57]: > > I am trying to figure out how to get mutt into threading mode. > > From the doc's, it says to use Esc - t, but > > when I do that, I get 'Threading is not enabled.'. > > the command "t

Vipul('s Razor) sucks - was Re: [OT] spam harvesting

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* Gerhard Häring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 21:27 +0200]: > * Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 14:13 -0500]: > > Considering that we aren't using any pattern matching, no. (Vipul's is > > checksumming + network query, > > And unusable because its database is filled with too ma

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Stef Slamon
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:12:58PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > Also, I was using mutt 1.2.5i on another machine, when I > > copied over the .muutrc to this machine, which is running > > 1.4i, it does not like the line 'set sort=thread'. How do > > I go about setting threading mode to the defau

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 16:40 -0400]: > Normally I would not be asking, but since you have already established > me as an idiot... I don't get it: " the manual is still missing the > section about users without a real name which tells them to use a bad > mailer so the r

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Sam Carleton
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:54:30PM +0200, Gerhard Häring wrote: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 16:40 -0400]: > > Normally I would not be asking, but since you have already established > > me as an idiot... I don't get it: " the manual is still missing the > > section about u

Re: Attachments MIME- or UUencoded -> PDA problem

2002-09-01 Thread Andre Berger
--SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-09-01 16:39 -0400: > * Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 16:32]: > > > > :r! uuencode file file > > > > > > doe

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* Sam Carleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 17:14 -0400]: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:54:30PM +0200, Gerhard Häring wrote: > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 16:40 -0400]: > > > Normally I would not be asking, but since you have already established > > > me as an idiot...

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Sam Carleton
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:24:57PM +0200, Gerhard Häring wrote: > > I did test things out. I even triple checked things after your last > > email. Every things looks good to me, the last 't' is always there. > > No idea which 't' you're talking about. Well, if you look back on your earlier p

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* Sam Carleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 17:58 -0400]: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:24:57PM +0200, Gerhard Häring wrote: > > > I did test things out. I even triple checked things after your > > > last email. Every things looks good to me, the last 't' is always > > > there. > > > > No ide

Re: Threading is not enabled. -> "order" "threads"

2002-09-01 Thread Sam Carleton
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 01:02:44AM +0200, Gerhard Häring wrote: > Heh, maybe I "should learn to type" ;-) No comment:) Sam

Re: automatic check-traditional-pgp

2002-09-01 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 05:05:46PM +0200, Heiko Heil wrote: | Hello Mutt-users, | | many people don't care about RFCs and sign/encrypt their E-Mails | traditionally. As I don't want to press ESC-P for each message I want | mutt to do this automatically (like Mozilla+Enigmail does). Any hints? On

Re: Sam's setup - almost ok now

2002-09-01 Thread Sven Guckes
* Sam Carleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 21:15]: > Before signup on for this wondering mail list where > I am insulting in every reply, I did test things > out. I even triple checked things after your > last email. Every things looks good to me.. perhaps you change the setup file but not

Re: flaming is art - dammit!

2002-09-01 Thread Sven Guckes
* Stef Slamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 20:50]: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:12:58PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > it's "muttrc" and "set sort=threads". learn typing. > > Perhaps you should learn to not be an asshole? he - i learned it all on usenet - a long time ago. and it's no as fun as

Re: flaming is art - dammit!

2002-09-01 Thread Gerhard Häring
* Sven Guckes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-02 02:13 +0200]: > * Stef Slamon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-01 20:50]: > > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 10:12:58PM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > it's "muttrc" and "set sort=threads". learn typing. > > > > Perhaps you should learn to not be an asshole? >

Re: Sam's setup - almost ok now

2002-09-01 Thread Sam Carleton
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 02:07:35AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > well, that one just had an address - > but no realname at all. sorry. > > wild guess: do you have an alias on that address > with your name and reverse_alias set, too

Re: flaming is art - dammit!

2002-09-01 Thread Sven Guckes
* Gerhard Haering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-09-02 00:58]: > > someone has to do it make 'em newbies to rtfm, right? > > de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc needs you - Robin > 'PLONK' Socha is probably feeling lonely there ;-) i think he's doing just fine. sometimes i read up on his flames on google: htt

Re: flaming is art - dammit!

2002-09-01 Thread Ken Weingold
On Mon, Sep 2, 2002, Sven Guckes wrote: > sure - that's what happens with "tolerant" newsgroups: noise up - signal down. > only a few good flames will keep the folks reading the fine manual... > > the english newsgroups are really missing the good flamers. > they have probably all become bofh ad