Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-22 Thread Tony's unattended mail
On 2012-11-21, Jim Graham spooky1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 05:02:50PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: LF means begin next line now. So as an author posting text to a forum, at what point do you need an LF? Not after XX width, because that makes poor assumptions about

Re: so many useless text

2012-11-22 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* horse_rivers horse_riv...@126.com [11-21-12 20:28]:   You can also hide header lines with 'display-toggle-weed' which is by default  bound to the key 'h' ... HTH Stefan thanks! here is  another  question:how can I modify  the default  key-binding  of  move-down by line? the default

Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-22 Thread John Long
My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug support. Is there any way to figure out why this is happening? I sometimes lock up in the middle of composing a long email or when mutt has been open for awhile. This didn't happen until this week and I suspect my email

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:34:13PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: On 11/20/12 3:18 PM, Rado Q wrote: Software can't do magic, or make up for human failures. Sometimes the responsibility is with the user, not the code. Nope. Totally wrong. The responsibility is entire with the design and the

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:45:05PM +0100, Rado Q wrote: .snip.` Ok, we disagree on basic principles, because I require responsible and respectful users for any tool, no matter how well or badly it's coded. People kill people, guns are just their tools for it.

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-22 Thread Richard
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:42:27PM +, John Long wrote: My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug support. Is there any way to figure out why this is happening? I sometimes lock up in the middle of composing a long email or when mutt has been open for

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-22 Thread Peter Davis
On 11/22/12 3:13 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 03:34:13PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: On 11/20/12 3:18 PM, Rado Q wrote: Software can't do magic, or make up for human failures. Sometimes the responsibility is with the user, not the code. Nope. Totally wrong. The

Re: Default subject Re: your mail when replying to empty-subject e-mails

2012-11-22 Thread David Champion
* On 21 Nov 2012, Marcelo Laia wrote: On 21/11/12 at 07:00pm, David Champion wrote: You could create a personal translation, I guess. Have any idea how to do? Only roughly (I haven't done it): create your own mutt.po file, override the right message in it, compile it with msgfmt, choose

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-22 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:22:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: .snip. Nope. Totally wrong. The responsibility is entire with the design and the code, and never with the user. Otherwise it's a failed product. You're absolutely right...as soon as they make programmers

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-22 Thread Michael Elkins
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40:33PM +0100, Richard wrote: $gdb #attach pid-mutt #bt This is a good suggestion, but depending on the optimization used when compiling mutt, it may be a little difficult to pinpoint the exact problem. But it may be enough to start looking in the right place.