* On 2002.04.04, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
* "Will Yardley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> also, the fact that the 'hostname' command in FreeBSD has a '-s' switch
> (which trims off any domain information) seems to indicate that at least
> some people set it this way; uname -n seems to report
David Champion wrote:
>
> It says "uname: not super user" because uname(2) is the syscall that
> sets the hostname.
>
> Just use uname -n on all operating systems, and don't trouble yourself
> with the switch. "uname -n" returns the nodename. The nodename is the
> "real" hostname, and has nothin
* On 2002.03.27, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
* "Rocco Rutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> something like 'hostname | cut ...' to get the short name. If I - on
> Solaris - run 'hostname -s' it tells me: 'uname: not super user'. So I
> use a switch in my .profile to find wether this is Solaris
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 10:51:34AM -0500, Rocco Rutte wrote:
> > hostname, on any sane
> > system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set
> > it (requiring root at THAT point) when it has args.
Yes. And Solaris is sane in this fashion.
> > Solaris assumes that you're
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 04:58:17PM +0100:
>
> My mistake. Same here. Solaris doesn't like the '-s' switch for
> hostname. So I have to use 'hostname | cut ...' the get the short form.
uname -n
Works on both Linux and Solaris.
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Hi,
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:12:56:AM -0500 David T-G wrote:
> Eh? Who the heck set up your box?
An administrator, maybe. ;-)
Rocco
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Hi,
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:49:32:AM -0600 Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:08:50AM + I heard the voice of
> Dave Smith, and lo! it spake thus:
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Just logged into a solaris box. Having set
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:17:05:AM -0500 David T-G wrote:
> Matthew, et al --
> ...and then Matthew D. Fuller said...
> % I think he actually means 'hostname', not 'uname'; hostname, on any sane
> % system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set
> I agree so far, b
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:03:38:AM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote:
> begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100:
> >
> > Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my prompt to 'user@machine'
> > it says that only root may run 'uname'. My response: 'exit'.
> D
Thomas E. Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered:
> "experience" is another of those words, that in the context of
> advertising, is a guarantee that the author is an idiot and should be
> ignored.
Beaten is the term that comes to my mind. ;-)
HTH,
Michael
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begin quoting what Ricardo SIGNES said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:40:44PM -0500:
>
> Except that Linux is only the kernel. Linux + GNU + some other files and
> configuration is the OS. That, plus some applications is the distribution.
You're wrong.
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On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:33:36AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
>
> Think of it as like a Linux distribution. Linux is the OS, RedHat or
> Debian is the distribution. Saying "Solaris" is like saying "Debian",
> only slower and less free. :-)
Except that Linux is only the kernel. Linux + GNU
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:28:25AM -0500:
>
> Yeah; that was a very funny time. Too bad NT5 was renamed to Win2000 and
> announced just ONE DAY before the fantastic announcement of Solaris 7,
> the Operating System Rushed Out The Door In Time To Have A Higher
>
begin quoting what Matthew D. Fuller said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:49:32AM -0600:
>
> I think he actually means 'hostname', not 'uname'; hostname, on any sane
> system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set
> it (requiring root at THAT point) when it has args. Solar
Quoting David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Mar 27, 2002 08:19]:
> > I think he actually means 'hostname', not 'uname'; hostname,
> > on any sane system, displays the hostname when called with no
> > args, and tries to set
>
> I agree so far, but ...
Here is I think what happened:
$ uname -a; hostna
Matthew --
...and then Matthew D. Fuller said...
%
% On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:17:05AM -0500 I heard the voice of
% David T-G, and lo! it spake thus:
% >
% > % it (requiring root at THAT point) when it has args. Solaris assumes that
% > % you're always trying to set it, even to nothing.
% >
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:17:05AM -0500 I heard the voice of
David T-G, and lo! it spake thus:
>
> % it (requiring root at THAT point) when it has args. Solaris assumes that
> % you're always trying to set it, even to nothing.
>
> Really? I've never heard of that.
>
> nfs5{43} uname -a
>
Matthew, et al --
...and then Matthew D. Fuller said...
%
% On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:08:50AM + I heard the voice of
% Dave Smith, and lo! it spake thus:
% > On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
% >
% > > Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my prompt to
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:49:32AM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:08:50AM + I heard the voice of
> Dave Smith, and lo! it spake thus:
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my pr
Rocco --
...and then Rocco Rutte said...
%
% Hi,
Hello!
%
% On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05:PM + Simon White wrote:
% > Text based rules,
%
% Almost. I only need a 'console' tv application only playing the audio
% and radio... and then I agree that text based *completely* rules. ;-)
*
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100:
>
> Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my prompt to 'user@machine'
> it says that only root may run 'uname'. My response: 'exit'.
Did you by any chance have a -S in that uname call?
Because that's the only un
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:08:50AM + I heard the voice of
Dave Smith, and lo! it spake thus:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my prompt to 'user@machine'
> > it says that only root may run 'uname'. My respons
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05:PM + Simon White wrote:
> > Text based rules,
>
> Almost. I only need a 'console' tv application only playing the audio
> and radio... and then I agree that text based *completely* rules. ;-)
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05:PM + Simon White wrote:
> Text based rules,
Almost. I only need a 'console' tv application only playing the audio
and radio... and then I agree that text based *completely* rules. ;-)
> but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not
> worth shit
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 06:31:43:PM +0100 Marco Fioretti wrote:
> Here where I work we use Ultra sparc machines, but have no root password
> and only 100 MB of quota = can't compile and install stuff, and are forbidden
> to do so: this situation is much more frequent than many Unix guru expec
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:30:19AM -0500, Adam Shostack wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote:
>
> Actually, in light of Ximian connector, it would be way cool to have
> an interface that downloaded your mail into mutt, and left your
> calendar in Evolution.
>
>
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote:
> begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05PM +:
> >
> > Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not
> > worth shit without CDE.
>
> I've had luck in the past with GNOME, and evidently Sun doe
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002, Martin Karlsson wrote:
> And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook
> Express-experience ;-)
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp
And if it's anything like IE for Solaris, it sucks. Ever since 3.0,
Netscape IMO has gotten more and
* On 2002.03.26, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
* "Rocco Rutte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It thought Solaris users use text-based mail clients because workstation
> installations of Solaris are not the fastest. Or do they just replace
I thought we used text-based mail clients for the same re
begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05PM +:
>
> Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not
> worth shit without CDE.
I've had luck in the past with GNOME, and evidently Sun doesn't
totally disagree, since they're moving to GNOME as
26-Mar-02 at 16:44, Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
> It thought Solaris users use text-based mail clients because workstation
> installations of Solaris are not the fastest. Or do they just replace
> every workstation by a server to run Outlook? ;-)
Text based rules, but in Solaris you a
> > And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook
> > Express-experience ;-)
>
> > http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp
>
> It thought Solaris users use text-based mail clients because workstation
> installations of Solaris are not the fastest. Or do they just re
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:56:57:PM +0100 Martin Karlsson wrote:
> * Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-25 19.58 +0100]:
> > ;-) It seems that Outlook users get along with one another so everything
> > works as intended.
> And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook
> Express-ex
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote:
> > > % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with
> > > % secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating,
> > > % sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic
> > > % experience.
>
* Mike Schiraldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-26 15:16]:
> > > % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and
> > > % provides you with secure, personalized, and complete
> > > % features that make creating, sending, and reading
> > > % your e-mail a more rich and dynamic experience.
> >
> >
> > % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with
> > % secure, personalized, and complete features that make creating,
> > % sending, and reading your e-mail a more rich and dynamic
> > % experience.
>
> "experience" is another of those words, that in the context of
> adve
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, David T-G wrote:
> % And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook
> % Express-experience ;-)
> %
> % http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp
> ...
> %
> % * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with
> % secure, personali
Martin, et al --
...and then Martin Karlsson said...
%
% And now all Solaris-users can enjoy the MS Outlook
% Express-experience ;-)
%
% http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie/evaluation/outlookexp/default.asp
...
%
% * Outlook Express is easy to set up and use, and provides you with
% secure, perso
* Rocco Rutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-25 19.58 +0100]:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:18:11:PM -0500 Shawn McMahon wrote:
> > begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:12:41AM +0100:
> > >
> > > Not that I know, but it is quite dangerous to talk about Outlook in
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