On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 11:32:03AM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
> On Thursday, 21 October 1999 at 03:22, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
>
> > I'd personally prefer to stick with one pager across all my apps because
> > then I only have to keep track of one set of keybindings and configuration.
> > But less
> > > Sorry, a bit off topic, but just wondering...
> > >
> > > So why mutt implements a pop3 protocol? Why do we need this when we have
> > > fetchmail?
> > >
> >
> > ...and why have a pager while we have more and less.
>
> Heck, at this rate, why should mutt implement mail when we have
> /us
Brendan Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 21 Oct 1999:
> What less would need, aside from color support, is all the keybindinds.
> I have no idea how to get less to reply to mail when you press 'r'...
Also, how to get it to display the "mini menu" showing part of the
index..? Or to make it
On Thursday, 21 October 1999 at 03:22, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> Fairlight [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 01:20:33AM -0400, Tim Pierce thus spoke:
> > > On Sat, Oct 16, 1999 at 12:59:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Oct 09, 1999 at 12:05:51AM +, Shao Z
Fairlight [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 01:20:33AM -0400, Tim Pierce thus spoke:
> > On Sat, Oct 16, 1999 at 12:59:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Sat, Oct 09, 1999 at 12:05:51AM +, Shao Zhang wrote:
> > > > So why mutt implements a pop3 protocol? Why do we
On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 01:20:33AM -0400, Tim Pierce thus spoke:
> On Sat, Oct 16, 1999 at 12:59:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 09, 1999 at 12:05:51AM +, Shao Zhang wrote:
> > > Sorry, a bit off topic, but just wondering...
> > >
> > > So why mutt implements a pop3 proto
On Sat, Oct 16, 1999 at 12:59:00AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 09, 1999 at 12:05:51AM +, Shao Zhang wrote:
> > Sorry, a bit off topic, but just wondering...
> >
> > So why mutt implements a pop3 protocol? Why do we need this when we have
> > fetchmail?
> >
>
> ...and why h
Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Or, preferably, mutt should handle POP3 mailboxes in the same way that
> it handles IMAP and other mailboxes. So messages remain on the server
> until the user asks them to be deleted.
There was some talk of this on mutt-dev. The consensus see
> > So why mutt implements a pop3 protocol? Why do we need this when we
> > have fetchmail?
>
> It's not needed. It should be removed.
>
> Mutt's POP3 support went in before fetchmail was really existent/stable.
Or, preferably, mutt should handle POP3 mailboxes in the same way that
it handles
Shao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So why mutt implements a pop3 protocol? Why do we need this when we
> have fetchmail?
It's not needed. It should be removed.
Mutt's POP3 support went in before fetchmail was really existent/stable.
--
David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equalit
On Sat, Oct 09, 1999 at 12:05:51AM +, Shao Zhang wrote:
> Sorry, a bit off topic, but just wondering...
>
> So why mutt implements a pop3 protocol? Why do we need this when we have
> fetchmail?
>
...and why have a pager while we have more and less.
I think POP3 was implemented because of I
Sorry, a bit off topic, but just wondering...
So why mutt implements a pop3 protocol? Why do we need this when we have
fetchmail?
Cheers,
Shao.
Jeremy Blosser [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Mikko Hänninen [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 07 Oct 1999
Quoting Tim Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:00:15PM -0400:
> On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 12:25:17PM -0400, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> > Quoting Tim Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:31:39AM -0400:
> > > * More generally, configuring an MTA when you are not t
On Oct 07, 1999, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
>
> AFAIK both things you mention can be dealt with using a minimal MTA that
> just acts as a forwarder, such as sSMTP. All you really have to do to
> configure it is set the remote mailhub's hostname.
OK, I can't resist adding my own $0.02 to this disc
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 01:17:09PM -0500, Manoj Kasichainula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:00:15PM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote:
> > That is what a knowledgable and experienced person would do, but we
> > are talking about the naive and clueless.
>
> Mutt is a power-users' ma
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 01:17:09PM -0500, Manoj Kasichainula wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:00:15PM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote:
> > That is what a knowledgable and experienced person would do, but we
> > are talking about the naive and clueless.
>
> Mutt is a power-users' mailer (unless this ha
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:00:15PM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote:
> That is what a knowledgable and experienced person would do, but we
> are talking about the naive and clueless.
Mutt is a power-users' mailer (unless this has changed recently). It
does not cater to the clueless, and I don't want to us
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 12:25:17PM -0400, Rich Lafferty wrote:
> Quoting Tim Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:31:39AM -0400:
> > * More generally, configuring an MTA when you are not thoroughly
> > familiar with it can introduce security risks.
>
> This is not true. A
Mikko Hänninen [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 07 Oct 1999:
> > AFAIK both things you mention can be dealt with using a minimal MTA that
> > just acts as a forwarder, such as sSMTP. All you really have to do to
> > configure it is set the remote mailh
Quoting Rich Lafferty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 12:25:17PM
-0400:
>
Woops, got ahead of myself:
> #!/usr/bin/perl -wT
> # little smtp smarthost-relay to quiet mutt-users
> # 1999/10/07 Rich Lafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> # Use this under the same terms as Perl itself. No w
Quoting Tim Pierce ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) from Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:31:39AM -0400:
> On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 11:51:55PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> > Raju K V [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > Suppose my machine does not have smtp capabilities? ie it does not have
> > > sendmail or any other MTA
On Thu, Oct 07, 1999 at 02:31:39AM -0400, Tim Pierce wrote:
:
:It doesn't seem to me that a simple SMTP delivery-only client should
:have to involve a great deal of code, and it could certainly be made a
:compile-time option.
The best solution should be a standardized open-source library called
l
Jeremy Blosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 07 Oct 1999:
> AFAIK both things you mention can be dealt with using a minimal MTA that
> just acts as a forwarder, such as sSMTP. All you really have to do to
> configure it is set the remote mailhub's hostname.
So how large is sSMTP anyway? Wou
On 1999-10-07 03:46:59 -0200, Frederic L . W . Meunier wrote:
> I'm sorry, but I don't think implementing this would be a bad idea.
We don't believe it's necessary.
The Debian GNU/Linux folks have a nice program called ssmtp, which
gives you a simple SMTP client which imitates sendmail's comman
Tim Pierce [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> It doesn't seem to me that a simple SMTP delivery-only client should
> have to involve a great deal of code, and it could certainly be made a
> compile-time option.
>
> I see at least two significant advantages to having SMTP delivery
> support built direct
Heh, I love Mutt, and will stay with it. Pine is user friendly but
bloated, not developed so much (hmm, no CVS, snapshots, beta versions,
latest release from january...), no COLORS (argh) etc. I'm using Exim
as the MTA, so I'm really not concerned, but some people seem to have
problems to get it w
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 11:51:55PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> Raju K V [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > Suppose my machine does not have smtp capabilities? ie it does not have
> > sendmail or any other MTA, can I use another machine as smtp host? I am
> > looking for something equivalent to pine
Frederic L . W . Meunier [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 11:51:55PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote:
> > Raju K V [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > > Suppose my machine does not have smtp capabilities? ie it does not have
> > > sendmail or any other MTA, can I use another machine as
I think this is a kind of trade off. I personally support the mutt
developers' decision on what to implement.
There are also a lot of people who want to how to use mutt to rotate the
send-mail folder monthly just like pine. And I guess the standard answer
will be using a shell script and run it i
I'm sorry, but I don't think implementing this would be a bad idea. I
have to agree that Pine's capabilities to make use of a remote MTA
let new users (newbies...) choose this MUA and not Mutt, which is very
complex, don't have a way to configure all the stuff using menus, etc.
Now you need to cho
hi,
Suppose my machine does not have smtp capabilities? ie it does not have
sendmail or any other MTA, can I use another machine as smtp host? I am
looking for something equivalent to pine's smtp-server option.
Thanks in advance,
Raju
Raju K V [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Suppose my machine does not have smtp capabilities? ie it does not have
> sendmail or any other MTA, can I use another machine as smtp host? I am
> looking for something equivalent to pine's smtp-server option.
When you have pine doing this, your machine /doe
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