Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
In all seriousness... If the developer is really worried about paying the fee, he can develop his own mysql client. As far as the pointed out documentation links from earlier, the information is there. You do not have to GPL your application if you read the docs. The license of those docs only co

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
On 2/22/07, Jay Pipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do see your point about the sockets layer/client protocol and that language is being removed/has been removed from our website because it has been, as you point out, a source of confusion; I will agree with you there. There is one more piece

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
But, on a general note, I *don't* think that MySQL licensing is confusing, and any confusion thereof stems from confusion about what the GPL itself states. I hear tons of times how developers claim that they fall under the mere aggregation clause when in fact they do not -- it's just an attempt

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
On 2/22/07, Jay Pipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have no idea what this means. :( First, you were complaining about PHP and Jim noted that we have a PHP native driver in the works. Then, you move on to Python and Java... sounds like you're just flame-baiting. I don't mean to sound like I'

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
ne is twisting their arm to use MySQL, but the option is nice since people already know MySQL(if they need to send a raw statement. On 2/22/07, Jim Winstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 01:39:49PM -0900, software advocate wrote: > This is exactly why someone needs to dev

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
I've personally emailed them in the past. Their response was for me to by a license. When I asked them about creating my own client without reading their docs or source code, they still insisted I buy a license. Anyone who knows the GPL well, knows the communication layer is NOT covered by GPL. S

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
On 2/22/07, mos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 12:51 PM 2/22/2007, software advocate wrote: >Let me present what I've read from the MySQL site so far. > >The MySQL protocol notice > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/licensing-notice.html > >Okay, really confusi

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
riginal Message - From: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:32 PM >Subject: Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba. > > >>At 12:51 PM 2/22/2007, software advocate wrote: >>>Let me present what I'v

[LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
Let me present what I've read from the MySQL site so far. The MySQL protocol notice http://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/licensing-notice.html Okay, really confusing. What if someone creates a mysql client without looking at docs or source code of the MySQL client? What if someone simply sniffs