RE: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Gilles MISSONNIER
rsday, September 22, 2005 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: good database design Tim Hayes wrote: I disagree completely. I prefer to have regard to the statement of requirement, which in this case is a concern over performance. If following conventional design

RE: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Sujay Koduri
t: Re: good database design > This is an interesting subject area. > > In a data warehousing environment, one tends to adopt table structures such > as snowflake layouts which lead to improved performance. > > Createing a perfect normalised database design may well lead to perform

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Martijn Tonies
> This is an interesting subject area. > > In a data warehousing environment, one tends to adopt table structures such > as snowflake layouts which lead to improved performance. > > Createing a perfect normalised database design may well lead to performance > issues. If this is the case, go bug

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi, > > Given that the OP did not state that there were any issues with an > > existing website, logical requirements come first. Period. No discussion ;) > > Logical requirements may come first, but may be overruled later by > requirements caused by performance issues or system limitations. Whic

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Jigal van Hemert
Martijn Tonies wrote: Given that the OP did not state that there were any issues with an existing website, logical requirements come first. Period. No discussion ;) Logical requirements may come first, but may be overruled later by requirements caused by performance issues or system limitation

RE: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Tim Hayes
that when it comes to online performance, sometimes you have to break the rules. -Original Message- From: Sujay Koduri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2005 09:58 To: Ian Sales (DBA); [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: good database design My 2 cents

RE: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Sujay Koduri
d now actually you should start worrying abt the DB Tuning and harware requirements. sujay -Original Message- From: Ian Sales (DBA) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: good database design Tim

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Ian Sales (DBA)
Tim Hayes wrote: I disagree completely. I prefer to have regard to the statement of requirement, which in this case is a concern over performance. If following conventional design rules creates performance issues, then performance related issues come first when considering design. - persona

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread OKAN ARI
, any link, any info, any word is important forme. I can't find the right start point. Thanks OKAN - Original Message - From: "Martijn Tonies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:25 AM Subject: Re: good database design Hi, Please re

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hello Tim, > I disagree completely. > > I prefer to have regard to the statement of requirement, which in this case > is a concern over performance. If following conventional design rules > creates performance issues, then performance related issues come first when > considering design. Given tha

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi, Please reply to the list and not to me personally only. > I want to explain my condition. I have a web site that habe 110onlne users > at same time. But cpu usage is 2.00/2.00 (p4 3.0ghzHT) > I think my database design is horrible because of this high cpu load. Did you do an analysis to come

RE: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Tim Hayes
customers happy. Tim Hayes MYdbPAL - www.it-map.com -Original Message- From: Martijn Tonies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2005 09:02 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: good database design > I need links about good database design information for high loaded

Re: good database design

2005-09-22 Thread Martijn Tonies
> I need links about good database design information for high loaded web > sites... A database design should start with the logical data-related requirements, not with performance related issues. IMO, of course. With regards, Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - tool for InterBase, Firebird,