Re: [PATCH] Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-12 Thread Risto Treksler
Fixed it myself :) The patch is attached and it replaces the previous patch and addresses all four issues. 1) in strict mode - treat frames as blank only if logo is absent 2) more fixes for the long long issue 3) fix for white frames triggering commercials 4) do not detect commercials less than

Re: [PATCH] Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-12 Thread Risto Treksler
Hmm, I sent this last night but it never showed up on the list, So I am resending ... Fixed it myself :) The patch is attached and it replaces the previous patch and addresses all four issues. 1) in strict mode - treat frames as blank only if logo is absent 2) more fixes for the long long

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-11 Thread Risto Treksler
Hi, downloaded todays CVS and reflagged it detected and flagged an obviously false commercial of just 8 frames long white frames like those in explosions and in scene transitions in Cold Case also trigger false positives every time 2005-04-11 14:31:23.170 Final Commercial Break Map

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-11 Thread Chris Pinkham
downloaded todays CVS and reflagged it detected and flagged an obviously false commercial of just 8 frames long white frames like those in explosions and in scene transitions in Cold Case also trigger false positives every time If you use the same instructions I gave the others earlier in

[PATCH] Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-11 Thread Risto Treksler
Hi, I haven't figured out why the minimum length is still not being honoured and so I am going to privately send you the full debug output from a couple of such shows NOTE: I think it's OK to have commercials shorter than 60sec right in the beginning of the show!! these are detected fine all

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-04 Thread Ramon Redondo
I could also mention Jeopardy!. Commercial detection is flawless for my recordings of Jeopardy!, with the one exception being that it misses the end of the commercial break before Final Jeopardy. So my wife and I have to remember to NOT skip that break, or we end up at the end of the show.

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-03 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Chris Pinkham wrote: I wonder if it would help to apply a narrow filter to get rid of high frequency noise before testing whether a frame is blank? This might help for noisy signals without hurting things much for clean signals... I'd be interested in this. In going through my programs

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-03 Thread Chris Pinkham
I send this to you directly. From the relevant portions I can see it did detect the 12 second and ~0 second break again. If I read it right, that's at frame 18625 and then at 67576. I am using the ALL detection method with strict detection enabled. 2005-04-03 12:07:33.803 18625 : 4

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-03 Thread Chris Pinkham
Thanks for the debug info (although I'm not sure the whole list wanted to see the mythcommflag.out.bz2 file). :) This should be fixed in current CVS, can you update and reflag this show to see if it does it correctly now?

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-03 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Chris Pinkham wrote: Thanks for the debug info (although I'm not sure the whole list wanted to see the mythcommflag.out.bz2 file). :) This should be fixed in current CVS, can you update and reflag this show to see if it does it correctly now? I checked out and reran mythcommflag and based on

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-03 Thread Chris Pinkham
I checked out and reran mythcommflag and based on the debug output it did not detect those breaks this time. Thanks for the quick fix. My WAF just increased. :) I'll let this version run on next week's shows Great, glad it worked. Not sure how I missed that initially. BTW, any

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-03 Thread Dan Christensen
Chris Pinkham [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, any insight on the narrow filter? I looked through the filters listed on mythtv.org but didn't see one resembling that. Might work, haven't messed with filters much. If anyone wants to point me to some code or code it themeselves, we can try

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-02 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Dan Christensen wrote: Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Chris Pinkham wrote: I'd be interested to see what you find. Are the channels you're talking about fuzzy or what? Yeah, they have a bit of a haze to them compared to my other channels. I wonder if it would help to

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-02 Thread Chris Pinkham
I wonder if it would help to apply a narrow filter to get rid of high frequency noise before testing whether a frame is blank? This might help for noisy signals without hurting things much for clean signals... I'd be interested in this. In going through my programs last night, I

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-01 Thread Loren H. Burlingame
On Mar 27, 2005 12:46 PM, SpikeyGG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I'm wondering how well everyone else's commercial detection is working? From what I've seen it seems like it gives me the basic jist of where a commercial IS and I go in and set the breakpoints to where the commercial

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-01 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Chris Pinkham wrote: I agree, the strict option does help a lot. It's hard to be objective about it but it seems just about as good as it was when the ALL option was first introduced. I'm wondering if my picture is confusing it. My cable box produces light and dark lines that scroll up the

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-01 Thread Brad Templeton
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:01:42AM -0500, Chris Pinkham wrote: I suspect a better behaviour when you hit End (Skip to next commercial mark) if there is no next mark (or the next mark is end of program) to not seek at all, giving a message like the not-flagged message. The user can choose

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-01 Thread Chris Pinkham
Is there a chance that those blank detection values for light and dark could be made to be read from the DB and controlled from setup? I have a couple channels that suffer from slightly poorer signal than others and the strict detection only really fails me on those poor channels. I'd

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-04-01 Thread Chris Pinkham
I just committed a patch to CVS to disable skipping when the last commercial flagging marker is less than 10 seconds from the end of the recording. It will instead display the At End, can not Skip message that it normally does when you are at the end of the recording and there are no more

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread Risto Treksler
Also, like mentioned above, some shows will put a 5 second teaser before or after a commercial break. I know that Food Network does this alot and myth will detect it as part of the commericial only about 5% of the time. HTH. i always saw this as a feature, that these spots aren't

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread John Patrick Poet
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Chris Pinkham wrote: With the new ALL method, the Strict Commercial Detection setting wasn't being used, so I just committed a change to CVS to use it in the blank-frame detection code to allow reverting to the stricter black-frame detection that was Now

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread Curtis Stanford
On Mar 31, 2005, at 3:03 PM, John Patrick Poet wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Chris Pinkham wrote: With the new ALL method, the Strict Commercial Detection setting wasn't being used, so I just committed a change to CVS to use it in the blank-frame detection code to allow reverting to the stricter

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Pinkham
I agree, the strict option does help a lot. It's hard to be objective about it but it seems just about as good as it was when the ALL option was first introduced. I'm wondering if my picture is confusing it. My cable box produces light and dark lines that scroll up the picture constantly.

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Pinkham
It's also a little annoying when the commercials are incorrectly marked and pressing forward skips some random large value, there is no easy way to go back because where you jumped from wasn't a marked point. So you have to just manually skip back to the correct place Would it be possible

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread Curtis Stanford
On Mar 31, 2005, at 7:57 PM, Chris Pinkham wrote: I agree, the strict option does help a lot. It's hard to be objective about it but it seems just about as good as it was when the ALL option was first introduced. I'm wondering if my picture is confusing it. My cable box produces light and dark

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Pinkham
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 08:54:19AM -0600, Ramon Redondo wrote: Since we're talking about consistent commercial detection problems, I could also mention Jeopardy!. Commercial detection is flawless for my recordings of Jeopardy!, with the one exception being that it misses the end of the

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-31 Thread Ian Campbell
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 23:25 -0500, Chris Pinkham wrote: It's also a little annoying when the commercials are incorrectly marked and pressing forward skips some random large value, there is no easy way to go back because where you jumped from wasn't a marked point. So you have to just

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread John Patrick Poet
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005, Chris Pinkham wrote: Within the first week that you introduced the ALL method, detection was simply amazing. I have never seen it work so well. Then I saw a message from you saying that you had to loosen up the concept of black. After that, detection really took

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread Chris Pinkham
With the new ALL method, the Strict Commercial Detection setting wasn't being used, so I just committed a change to CVS to use it in the blank-frame detection code to allow reverting to the stricter black-frame detection that was Now that I have my system working again, I gave this a

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 11:40, John Patrick Poet wrote: Now that I have my system working again, I gave this a try. My impression is positive. I believe that this has helped quite a bit. I need to go back and re-flag the shows with Strict Commercial Detection turned OFF to make a proper

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread Chris Pinkham
I have found that commercial detection works well for most shows. One show that appears to have serious problems however is Blind Justice. Might make a good test show to record and flag. I'm already recording that, so I'll make a note to see how well detection is working on there. -- Chris

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread Tom E. Craddock Jr.
Scot L. Harris wrote: I have found that commercial detection works well for most shows. One show that appears to have serious problems however is Blind Justice. You mean besides the acting, writing, overall plot, camera work and just over all being a bad show? Tom

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread Michael J. Lynch
Tom E. Craddock Jr. wrote: Scot L. Harris wrote: I have found that commercial detection works well for most shows. One show that appears to have serious problems however is Blind Justice. You mean besides the acting, writing, overall plot, camera work and just over all being a bad show? Tom

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 14:30, Tom E. Craddock Jr. wrote: Scot L. Harris wrote: I have found that commercial detection works well for most shows. One show that appears to have serious problems however is Blind Justice. You mean besides the acting, writing, overall plot, camera work and just

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-30 Thread Blammo
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:57:52 -0500 (EST), Chris Pinkham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you let me know sometime if the Strict/Aggressive changes I made the other day to CVS have made an impact for you? 24 was on to the millisecond, first time since 0.16 and non-HD content that's happened. Well

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-29 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 10:34 -0800, Brad Templeton wrote: I suspect a better behaviour when you hit End (Skip to next commercial mark) if there is no next mark (or the next mark is end of program) to not seek at all, giving a message like the not-flagged message. The user can choose to quit

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-29 Thread Ajay Sharma
Dan Wilga wrote: At 11:27 PM -0800 3/27/05, Ajay Sharma wrote: Daily Show: Sometimes when they jump to a news clip they flash the screen white for a second that that is picked up as a start of a commercial. Interesting. The only problem I have with Daily Show is that the last

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-29 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Mar 29, 2005 at 12:13:44PM -0500, James Armstrong wrote: Ian Campbell wrote: On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 10:34 -0800, Brad Templeton wrote: I suspect a better behaviour when you hit End (Skip to next commercial mark) if there is no next mark (or the next mark is end of program) to

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-29 Thread Chris Pinkham
On Mar 27, 2005, at 6:40 PM, John Patrick Poet wrote: Chris Pinkham wrote: I've been using the All option since it was introduced and, I have to agree that it was MUCH better then than it is now. Must be sensitive to the type of signal or something. When is then? Yes, by then, I

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-29 Thread Curtis Stanford
On Mar 29, 2005, at 12:57 PM, Chris Pinkham wrote: On Mar 27, 2005, at 6:40 PM, John Patrick Poet wrote: Chris Pinkham wrote: I've been using the All option since it was introduced and, I have to agree that it was MUCH better then than it is now. Must be sensitive to the type of signal or

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-29 Thread Chris Pinkham
Of course this is very frustrating, as you have to say don't delete then re-watch, then seek to the place you were and find the real programming at the end. I suspect a better behaviour when you hit End (Skip to next commercial mark) if there is no next mark (or the next mark is end of

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-29 Thread Chris Pinkham
Chris (and other developers working on mythcommflag), I just wanted to let you know that one network I seem to have more problems on than others is VH1. I find that on quite a few of their Thanks, I'll see if there is something I can record off there to test with. Also, like mentioned

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-28 Thread Dan Wilga
At 11:27 PM -0800 3/27/05, Ajay Sharma wrote: Daily Show: Sometimes when they jump to a news clip they flash the screen white for a second that that is picked up as a start of a commercial. Interesting. The only problem I have with Daily Show is that the last commercial break (right before the

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-28 Thread Ramon Redondo
Since we're talking about consistent commercial detection problems, I could also mention Jeopardy!. Commercial detection is flawless for my recordings of Jeopardy!, with the one exception being that it misses the end of the commercial break before Final Jeopardy. So my wife and I have to

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-28 Thread Curtis Stanford
On Mar 27, 2005, at 6:40 PM, John Patrick Poet wrote: Chris Pinkham wrote: I've been using the All option since it was introduced and, I have to agree that it was MUCH better then than it is now. Must be sensitive to the type of signal or something. When is then? I am not sure who you are

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-28 Thread Craig Partin
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 08:17:57 -0700, Curtis Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 27, 2005, at 6:40 PM, John Patrick Poet wrote: Chris Pinkham wrote: I've been using the All option since it was introduced and, I have to agree that it was MUCH better then than it is now. Must be

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-28 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, Mar 28, 2005 at 08:54:19AM -0600, Ramon Redondo wrote: Since we're talking about consistent commercial detection problems, I could also mention Jeopardy!. Commercial detection is flawless for my recordings of Jeopardy!, with the one exception being that it misses the end of the

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-28 Thread Matt
Chris (and other developers working on mythcommflag), I know that you're aware of a few instances where certain shows can play some havoc with the flagging of commericals... Lost is my favorite show right now and it's never correct, glad to see you are testing with it. I will let you know it's

[mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread SpikeyGG
All, I'm wondering how well everyone else's commercial detection is working? From what I've seen it seems like it gives me the basic jist of where a commercialIS and I go in and set the breakpoints to wherethe commercialreally starts and stops. However, I noticed from a recent recording of

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Sunday 27 March 2005 10:46, SpikeyGG wrote: Does anyone have the commercial detection working flawlessly (or is that not possible)? Since the 0.17 release, commercial detection has been damned near flawless for me. I'm using more than just the default though. Can't remember the exact

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Tom E. Craddock Jr.
SpikeyGG wrote: All, I'm wondering how well everyone else's commercial detection is working? From what I've seen it seems like it gives me the basic jist of where a commercial IS and I go in and set the breakpoints to where the commercial really starts and stops. However, I noticed from a

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 14:04, Tom E. Craddock Jr. wrote: SpikeyGG wrote: All, I'm wondering how well everyone else's commercial detection is working? From what I've seen it seems like it gives me the basic jist of where a commercial IS and I go in and set the breakpoints to where

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Alex Cruz
On Sunday 27 March 2005 12:46 pm, SpikeyGG wrote: Does anyone have the commercial detection working flawlessly (or is that not possible)? Thanks, -Greg I'm using all modes of detction and I can say that it's pretty darn close to perfect especially when using the auto skip commercial

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Curtis Stanford
On Mar 27, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Alex Cruz wrote: On Sunday 27 March 2005 12:46 pm, SpikeyGG wrote: Does anyone have the commercial detection working flawlessly (or is that not possible)? Thanks, -Greg I'm using all modes of detction and I can say that it's pretty darn close to perfect especially

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Chris Pinkham
Using default, blank frame detection. You're probably better off using the new All method. 1st commercial break Enter off by 25.13 seconds Exit off by 19.17 seconds 2nd commercial break Enter off by 28.62 seconds Exit off by 34.68 seconds 3rd commercial break Enter off by 49.70

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Chris Pinkham
Well, this is still pre 1.0 software. I dont think flawless is going to happen any time soon. Pretty damn well? Yup, Ive got that. Only a couple HD shows get screwy, Alias and Lost off the top of my head. SD Well, I record Lost regularly and just started recording Alias a week or two

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Chris Pinkham
I have it set to use all detection modes. I can not say it is 100% but it is very very close. With only a few exceptions about the only commercials it seems to miss consistently are those sponsor bits usually at the end of a show that appear to be part of the actual show just before it

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Chris Pinkham
I've been using the All option since it was introduced and, I have to agree that it was MUCH better then than it is now. Must be sensitive to the type of signal or something. When is then? -- Chris ___ mythtv-users mailing list

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread John Patrick Poet
Chris Pinkham wrote: I've been using the All option since it was introduced and, I have to agree that it was MUCH better then than it is now. Must be sensitive to the type of signal or something. When is then? I am not sure who you are quoting in this message, but I will chime in. Within

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Chris Pinkham
Within the first week that you introduced the ALL method, detection was simply amazing. I have never seen it work so well. Then I saw a message from you saying that you had to loosen up the concept of black. After that, detection really took a hit. Ever since then it is not that much

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Sun, 2005-03-27 at 20:25, Chris Pinkham wrote: I have it set to use all detection modes. I can not say it is 100% but it is very very close. With only a few exceptions about the only commercials it seems to miss consistently are those sponsor bits usually at the end of a show that

Re: [mythtv-users] How well does commercial detection work?

2005-03-27 Thread Ajay Sharma
I'm wondering how well everyone else's commercial detection is working? I was using the ALL method because everyone was talking about how great it is. I'm not that impressed with it but it might be because I'm watching those shows that still have issues with it: Lost: Very dark at times,