I just want to reiterate (since this thread is getting long), that
it'd be best to fingerprint the show before the commercial break, and
after the commercial break (or the entire show itself)... not
fingerprint or ID the commercials themselves. Shows will always be
constant. Commercials will
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 22:44 +, Risto Treksler wrote:
Mike Benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm not a C programmer, so implementing MythRecommend directly in to
MythTV isn't something I have the time to do at this point. Coding the
client/server scripts though is what I do all day
Hi there,
I've been interested in this topic for quite some time now. I've even
posted to the list regarding something very similar a few months back,
however it was met with mixed results.
I'm the author of MythRecommend
(http://ipso.snappymail.ca:8080/mythrecommend/) which has been
Mike Benoit wrote:
Hi there,
I've been interested in this topic for quite some time now. I've even
posted to the list regarding something very similar a few months back,
however it was met with mixed results.
I'm the author of MythRecommend
(http://ipso.snappymail.ca:8080/mythrecommend/)
I'm not a C programmer, so implementing MythRecommend directly in to
MythTV isn't something I have the time to do at this point. Coding the
client/server scripts though is what I do all day long, so its pretty
quick. Though, I'm sure a Myth developer could implement MythRecommend
in to MythTV in
In my opinion a start would be to figure out some sort of finger
printing system, or some method of sharing cutlists that will work on
the same program across different stations or that takes in to account
that not every mythtv box will start recording at the exact second. Once
we have that,
Another consideration is going to be the different resolutions people
record at. If everyone used the same resolution you could choos e a
few place son teh screen (like a real fingerprint sort of) and get a
difference from a particular pixel or set of pixels (this should
eleminate the contrast and
Mike Benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm the author of MythRecommend
(http://ipso.snappymail.ca:8080/mythrecommend/) which has been around
for a fair amount of time now, and out of the 120 unique people who use
it, they record 2275 unique programs in total. The top 345 shows are
watched by
Mike Benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'm not a C programmer, so implementing MythRecommend directly in to
MythTV isn't something I have the time to do at this point. Coding the
client/server scripts though is what I do all day long, so its pretty
quick. Though, I'm sure a Myth developer
John Williams wrote:
Another consideration is going to be the different resolutions people
record at. If everyone used the same resolution you could choos e a
few place son teh screen (like a real fingerprint sort of) and get a
difference from a particular pixel or set of pixels (this should
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On Apr 11, 2005 7:36 PM, Brad
On Apr 12, 2005 11:56 AM, dean collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[DC]
I thought you were just working out the timing of the adds themselves (I
assume all tv channels break at the same spot in a show)
Not actually trying to identify the show themselves.
If you read elsewhere in this thread
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On Apr 12, 2005 11:56
Ramon Redondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
However, if we were able to fingerprint the start and end of each show
segment, then we don't care how long the comemrcial breaks are, or
what the actual commercials were. . We could just look for those
fingerprints and mark everything between the end
On Apr 12, 2005 12:31 PM, Risto Treksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
luckily, we already know exactly what preceeds and follows every commercial
- a blank frame
Except when the network gets creative and blends the end of a
commerical with the beginning of the show. Happens frequently with
Josh Burks [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Apr 12, 2005 12:31 PM, Risto Treksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
luckily, we already know exactly what preceeds and follows every commercial
- a blank frame
Except when the network gets creative and blends the end of a
commerical with the
personally,
i don't mind watching up to a minute of commercials or station id blurbs
as long as most ads are skipped and there aren't any false positives.
My problem with this is knowing I'm actually only watching 1 min of
ads. If I'm not sure I end up forwarding and then sometimes get in the
Preston Crow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
- it couldn't hope to cover nearly enough shows to be useful
(or am i being naive)
False. You're being naive. If it just gets popular prime time network
shows, that's enough to cover probably 70% or more of the shows people
really care about.
John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My problem with this is knowing I'm actually only watching 1 min of
ads. If I'm not sure I end up forwarding and then sometimes get in the
OOPS, went too far loop
currently you can set it so that
- a forward skip, immediately after a backward skip,
On Apr 12, 2005 12:31 PM, Risto Treksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
luckily, we already know exactly what preceeds and follows every commercial
- a blank frame
Not always, I know networks that sometimes edits these out. But for
the most part true.
the obvious problems with fingerprinting is
On Apr 12, 2005 1:09 PM, Josh Burks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005 12:31 PM, Risto Treksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
luckily, we already know exactly what preceeds and follows every commercial
- a blank frame
Except when the network gets creative and blends the end of a
On Apr 12, 2005 1:43 PM, Risto Treksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess I tend to agree that the traditional 80/20 rule does not apply to
electronic mediums such as PVRs.
In other words, I don't think that you can satisfy 80% of people by
fingerprinting just 20% of the most popular shows,
On Apr 12, 2005 1:06 PM, Ramon Redondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you read elsewhere in this thread (although not in the many lines
you quoted in your short reply), commercial breaks can easily be
longer or shorter on different affiliates of the same network.
Here's a relevant quote from
On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 16:12, Colin Smillie wrote:
I think this would probably still give you enough to create a cut-list
that you could share. You'd have the show, the time it aired and the
cable feed ( as defined by xmltv ).
Uhm, would we have a problem with the zap2it licensing of the xml
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 02:24:09PM -0500, Matt wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005 1:43 PM, Risto Treksler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess I tend to agree that the traditional 80/20 rule does not apply to
electronic mediums such as PVRs.
In other words, I don't think that you can satisfy 80% of
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 04:12:31PM -0400, Colin Smillie wrote:
On Apr 12, 2005 1:06 PM, Ramon Redondo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you read elsewhere in this thread (although not in the many lines
you quoted in your short reply), commercial breaks can easily be
longer or shorter on different
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Hello All, =D
Sorry this is long: For the short version, just read the first two
dean collins wrote:
Centralized flagging makes a great idea and whilst a complex project
should be possible.
The musicbrainz reference is a great starting point.
Does MythTV have a centralized bounty system? If so I'll kick it off
with an offer of $100.
Cheers,
Dean
The only issue I can really
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