Re: Acceptable Losses (was Re: Whoops! (re: WH network monitoring plan response))

2002-12-24 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sean Donelan writes: > >On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Richard Forno wrote: >> In my last post when I said this: >> > If something's deemed 'critical' to a large segment of the population, the >n >> > security must NEVER outweigh conveinience. Period. Non-negotiable. >> >> I

Acceptable Losses (was Re: Whoops! (re: WH network monitoring planresponse))

2002-12-24 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Richard Forno wrote: > In my last post when I said this: > > If something's deemed 'critical' to a large segment of the population, then > > security must NEVER outweigh conveinience. Period. Non-negotiable. > > I meant to say that security must ALWAYS outweigh convienience.

Re: Whoops! (re: WH network monitoring plan response)

2002-12-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
This is obviously a "great truth" - a statement whose opposite is also true. Regards and Best Wishes Marshall Eubanks On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 03:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:26:09 EST, Richard Forno said: In my last post when I said this: If something's d

Re: Whoops! (re: WH network monitoring plan response)

2002-12-24 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:26:09 EST, Richard Forno said: > In my last post when I said this: > > If something's deemed 'critical' to a large segment of the population, then > > security must NEVER outweigh conveinience. Period. Non-negotiable. > I meant to say that security must ALWAYS outweigh convie

contact at rackspace?

2002-12-24 Thread Peter van Dijk
Does anybody know a _working_ contact at rackspace.com? Greetz, Peter -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.dataloss.nl/ | Undernet:#clue http://www.blinkenlights.nl/party/ - birthday party (page in Dutch) all geeks invited - send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for more info

RE: White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet(fwd) err, make that (fud)

2002-12-24 Thread Al Rowland
Just another opportunity to grab some funding. The two major events at our local facility the past year have been the result of drivers taking out major power poles on the street adjacent to the facility. One even ended up in the parking lot. UPS/gen sets worked as planned so little impact on cust

Whoops! (re: WH network monitoring plan response)

2002-12-24 Thread Richard Forno
In my last post when I said this: > If something's deemed 'critical' to a large segment of the population, then > security must NEVER outweigh conveinience. Period. Non-negotiable. I meant to say that security must ALWAYS outweigh convienience. My goofguess I had too much NOG and not enoug