Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Petri Helenius
Perhaps, Outlook is a secure and performant email solution - in, say, 3 to 4 years from now, but this means a drastic change of course for the vendor. In other news microsoft announced that they stopped development on Outlook Express. Pete

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 17:49:07 PDT, chuck goolsbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: majority. My nanog list mail account got joejobbed by the Netscalibur user, both as sender and receiver (supposedly from Valdis Kletnieks, and somebody at NetSol.) and I've never seen what an Outlook mail client

Re: Weird network problems

2003-08-21 Thread Geo.
Is anyone out there tracking down some weird network behavior yesterday and today? I'm not talking about ping traffic from the worm or anything like that, I'm seeing TNT MAX boxes go unpingable, arp broadcast storms, one way traffic blocks on T1's between cisco routers, stuff that I have

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: Hello, What is the most common method for providing virus protection for your hosted email customers? Thank you in advance. None, we only protect those customers who additionally pay for our antivirus services. These services comprise

Re: To send or not to send 'virus in email' notifications?

2003-08-21 Thread Patrick Muldoon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:08 am, David Schwartz wrote: One of my pet peeves is anti-virus programs that detect a virus by name, so they should know that it always spoofs the sender address, still sending messages referring to the message

Re: To send or not to send 'virus in email' notifications?

2003-08-21 Thread Joe Maimon
Patrick Muldoon wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:08 am, David Schwartz wrote: One of my pet peeves is anti-virus programs that detect a virus by name, so they should know that it always spoofs the sender address, still sending

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Jack Bates
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: We dont filter by file type.. people do send exe's legitimately! You can zip the exe, or you can rename the exe, or you can ask not to have exe's filtered at all. Sometimes solutions can be simple. -Jack

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Jack Bates wrote: Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: We dont filter by file type.. people do send exe's legitimately! You can zip the exe, or you can rename the exe, or you can ask not to have exe's filtered at all. Just like what some viruses do you mean? Steve

Re: To send or not to send 'virus in email' notifications?

2003-08-21 Thread Gerardo A. Gregory
I attest to Amavis on this one. Message headers, virus found, and also if you quarentine the message it sends the quarentined file name. Gerardo Joe Maimon writes: Patrick Muldoon wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:08 am, David

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Jack Bates
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Just like what some viruses do you mean? A zipped virus or a renamed virus to say exd or dat is less likely to get an infection hold than .pif, .bat, or .exe -Jack

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Crist Clark
Jack Bates wrote: Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: We dont filter by file type.. people do send exe's legitimately! You can zip the exe, or you can rename the exe, or you can ask not to have exe's filtered at all. Sometimes solutions can be simple. Unless your AV software has a clue,

Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
http://www.msnbc.com/news/954985.asp?0dm=C12MT Associated Press Scientists say they have identified an ocean sponge living in the darkness of the deep sea that grows thin glass fibers capable of transmitting light at least as well as industrial fiber optic cables used for telecommunication.

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread David Diaz
Yea I saw that yesterday. Wasnt sure that was nanog material. But the most interesting fact left out on this summery was the ability to dope the fiber with elements like sodium. It seems the little creatures can do things naturally that was havent a clue how to do in the lab. Also they

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Scott Granados
And just think of the potential here for Sponge Bob episodes! On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, David Diaz wrote: Yea I saw that yesterday. Wasnt sure that was nanog material. But the most interesting fact left out on this summery was the ability to dope the fiber with elements like sodium. It

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Dave Howe
Crist Clark wrote: Unless your AV software has a clue, like most do, and unzips archives and see what's inside. which is ideal for virus scanning, but not for blanket-blocking of email. A zipped archive containing an executable cannot (unless something has changed that I don't know about) be

email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread neal rauhauser
No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having lunch with some guys who tolerate me and I found scads of messages from all over -the funniest among the bunch for our Nanog readers: user@cisco.com user@tacnet.com user@wcom.com

Sobig / MSBlast on Steroids

2003-08-21 Thread J. Oquendo
I would post the entire write up but it's rather long. To sum it up though, I did a quick rant on what would or could happen should a virii author dig deep down and formulate a polymorphic virus/worm that attacked routers via BGP/OSPF/ICMP ... Just me mumbling on but someone on the list may find

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread Mike Tancsa
Probably not. The virus grabs a From address at random from the infected person's email in box. So its more likely someone who has got mail FROM those people rather than those people. See http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100561.htm To quote, The From: address may be spoofed with an address

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, neal rauhauser wrote: No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having lunch with some guys who tolerate me and I found scads of messages from all over -the funniest among the bunch for our Nanog readers:

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread Steve Carter
Even they don't like you dude ... the sources are forged ... :) -Steve * neal rauhauser said: No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having lunch with some guys who tolerate me and I found scads of messages from all over -the

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread JC Dill
At 08:10 AM 8/21/2003, neal rauhauser wrote: No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having lunch with some guys who tolerate me and I found scads of messages from all over -the funniest among the bunch for our Nanog readers:

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:10:12 CDT, neal rauhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having lunch with some guys who tolerate me and I found scads of messages from all over -the funniest among the bunch for

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread Joseph McDonald
Email for me is becoming more of a pain in the ass than it's worth.. On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:10:12AM -0500, neal rauhauser wrote: No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having lunch with some guys who tolerate me and I found

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread neal rauhauser
I prefer to think of it as having evolved to a higher plane of existence :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:10:12 CDT, neal rauhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having

SBC Internet ops?

2003-08-21 Thread just me
If anyone from SBCi ops is on the list, please give me a call. I have a client that's been dead in the water for 24 hours, who desperately needs some ICMP dropped on your side. Matt Ghali (650) 704-2964 [EMAIL PROTECTED]darwin Flowers on the razor wire/I know you're here/We are few/And far

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Scott Weeks
I do believe this email thread might have stayed off-course when we start chanting the intro to SBSQ... scott On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: : : On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:47:28PM -0400, David Diaz wrote: : : Yea I saw that yesterday. Wasnt sure that was nanog

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Scott Weeks
UGH! Fat fingers. Corrections: strayed off-course and SBSP scott On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Scott Weeks wrote: : : : : I do believe this email thread might have stayed off-course when we start : chanting the intro to SBSQ... : : scott : : : : On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: :

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Alex Lambert
I'm still waiting for the discovery of its natural enemy, the Backhoeiosaur. apl Eric Kuhnke wrote: http://www.msnbc.com/news/954985.asp?0dm=C12MT Associated Press Scientists say they have identified an ocean sponge living in the darkness of the deep sea that grows thin glass fibers capable

Re: email virus == over the top

2003-08-21 Thread Susan Zeigler
neal rauhauser wrote: No one loves me and I don't get much email from the folks who tolerate me. I just got back from having lunch with some guys who tolerate me and I found scads of messages from all over -the funniest among the bunch for our Nanog readers: user@cisco.com

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread David Meyer
I'm still waiting for the discovery of its natural enemy, the Backhoeiosaur. All kidding aside, my concern is that it's natural enemy has just found it. It's such a wonderful example of how exquisite nature is as a designer and builder of complex systems, said Geri Richmond,

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
or the naturally occuring coral that can switch multiple oc-192 at line rate and give you accurate counter results ? I'm still waiting for the discovery of its natural enemy, the Backhoeiosaur. Eric Kuhnke wrote: http://www.msnbc.com/news/954985.asp?0dm=C12MT Associated Press

Re: Email virus protection

2003-08-21 Thread Crist Clark
Dave Howe wrote: Crist Clark wrote: Unless your AV software has a clue, like most do, and unzips archives and see what's inside. which is ideal for virus scanning, but not for blanket-blocking of email. A zipped archive containing an executable cannot (unless something has changed that

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Martin J. Levy
Stephen, or the naturally occuring coral that can switch multiple oc-192 at line rate and give you accurate counter results ? That would actually be STM-64's, as nearly all marine cables are SDH and not SONET. (I'm assuming you have to keep the coral or sponge wet). Martin

Re: Sea sponge builds a better glass fiber

2003-08-21 Thread Scott McGrath
The natural enemy in this case would be the filefish or the angelfish who eat the sponges... Scott C. McGrath On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, David Meyer wrote: I'm still waiting for the discovery of its natural enemy, the Backhoeiosaur. All kidding aside, my

real _their own_ dark fiber into 401

2003-08-21 Thread alex
Hello, If anyone knows of companies that have their own[1], real[2] dark fiber going into 401 North Broad in Philadephia, I would grealy appreciate hearing about it. Sales people from transport companies are welcome to do the same as long as they know the meaning [1] and [2] or can provide

Re: TNTs Rebooting, was RE: Weird network problems

2003-08-21 Thread Geo.
...an intermittent problem that has been discovered to be affecting a specific type of network card used by some of the NAS devices that populate our network. The problem is exacerbated by the blaster worm and has been replicated by Lucent, our vendor and others. In order to resolve the

Re: TNTs Rebooting, was RE: Weird network problems

2003-08-21 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Geo. wrote: Even a way to filter within the TNT would be useful if anyone has any ideas on that. I've already placed filters in my cisco routers for the 92 byte I believe you want to to do this in the radius profile for each user. Similar to port-25 filtering, eh?

Re: SBC Internet ops?

2003-08-21 Thread just me
Much thanks to Eric from Tier 2 for the quick followup! On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, just me wrote: If anyone from SBCi ops is on the list, please give me a call. I have a client that's been dead in the water for 24 hours, who desperately needs some ICMP dropped on your side. Matt Ghali

Navy Marin Corps Intranet back online (EDS says it was never offline)

2003-08-21 Thread Sean Donelan
Navy officials announced By this afternoon, Lt. Elissa Smith, a Navy spokeswoman, said, nearly all of the network has been restored to full functionality. http://www.gcn.com/vol1_no1/daily-updates/23235-1.html On the other hand, Electronic Data Systems (EDS) yesterday said the NMCI network was

Barn fire leads to telephone disruption

2003-08-21 Thread Sean Donelan
MADISONVILLE, Ky. (AP) -- Long-distance telephone service was knocked out for more than eight hours across parts of the region Wednesday after a barn fire burned a telephone cable. The barn 15 miles north of Madisonville caught fire about 4 a.m. CDT, and the flames severed a nearby cable owned