Re: BellSouth prefix deaggregation (was: as6198 aggregation event)

Yup, Looks like they've started getting things a bit organized since sunday night/ monday early dawn. From my network's pt of view, you can see the sudden slight "sink" in announcements transited thru UUNET which is where bellsouth's prefixes come from on my end: http://www.twdx.net/bgp/graph-1w

Re: Juniper M7i, M10i and the US DREN's IPV6 project

Robert Boyle wrote (on Oct 14): > The M7i is supposed to compete with the Cisco 7100/7200. It is designed as > a provider managed CPE for DS3 and OC3 level customers. At least that is > the niche they are targeting. It will come in two flavors - integrated dual > port 100Base-T or single GigE.

Re: Juniper M7i, M10i and the US DREN's IPV6 project

At 06:03 PM 10/13/2003, you wrote: From the PDF, regarding DREN implemention of ipv6: No great incentive for DREN sites to implement IPv6 no near term win additional effort and complexity, generally not funded Can't deploy in a safe and secure manner Existing DREN intrusion detection (IDS) archit

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

> Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > So a 7500 with a fast cache is a L3 switch? :) Of course. It does wire-speed switching with one and Possibly more CX-EIP6 if you enable dCEF :-) Michel.

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

Steve Francis wrote: BGP Scanner taking up close to 100% of CPU on a box periodically. GSR doesn't seem to do it, but a buncha other cisco boxes do. Its more irritating than anything else, especially when customers complain that when they traceroute they see ~200ms latency to the router... Doe

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

Not to mention that apparently if you turn off route-caching completely, you will make a router out of any "l3 switch" (since all packet forwarding will equally slow) -alex On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jason LeBlanc wrote: > > 75xx/GSR, dCEF? 75xx/GSR are L3 switches then. ;) Not to add > flame-bai

Re: ... WWIU / Orientation

> > | "From now on, we should make this a primary distinction between switch > > | and a router: If a device has vertical line cards, it is a router, if > > | horizontal, it is a switch, unless there are two or more vertical slots > > | within any horizontal slot plane, then it is, in fact, a rout

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

> Robert Boyle wrote: > "From now on, we should make this a primary distinction between > switch and a router: If a device has vertical line cards, it is > a router, if horizontal, it is a switch, unless there are two > or more vertical slots within any horizontal slot plane, then > it is, in fact

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Steve Francis wrote: > Doesn't happen here with MSFC2/SupII. > > Maybe just MSFC1's that are subject to that. That is possible, but I didn't see it on a 7500 till I started taking more than 1 full table.

Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 16:17:14 -0500 > From: "Pete Templin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > That suggests that it's an ASL (Analog Subscriber Line)... When the signal is placed on the wire, it is very analog. the digital signal is modulated onto the wire and demodulate

Juniper M7i, M10i and the US DREN's IPV6 project

Here are some interesting tidbits found recently... The US DoD will be using a Juniper "M7i" for their ipv6 testbed: https://spot.hpcmo.hpc.mil/hpc/docs/Htdocs/DOC-MIL/DREN/CONFERENCE/2003/2003_ron_broersma_ipv6_pilot.ppt Mention of the M7i and M10i in this document: http://216.239.41.104/search

Re: ... WWIU / Orientation

> which way is up? perhaps you had better state the > problem in terms of X,Y,Z coordinates at a minium. > Adding the fourth vector, time, may be useful as well; > e.g. "... it was a router last night..." Easy: horizontal is same direction as 19" mounting brackets ;) I'

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

bgp scanner cpu usage == number of neighbors * number of routes in table lots of neighbors would cause this, for longer periods. If running SUP1A/MSFC this could be worse than with MSFC2 (slightly more CPU power), and much worse than SUP2 I'm guessing. Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 02:15:59PM -0700, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Maybe you could expand on the BGP scanner problems - we haven't seen > > them all the time we've been running 6500 native with full routes (about > > 1.5 years now). > > BGP Sc

... WWIU / Orientation

> |> Yep, I think from now on, we should make this a primary distinction > |> between switch and a router: If a device has vertical line cards, it is a > |> router, if horizontal, it is a switch. > |> > | A small problem... all of my 7200s have horizontal line cards as do the > | Juniper M5/7/10/2

RE: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Your choice. Note carefully that the 6bone database is prone > to corruption. The nice folks @ online.org.ua did this: > inet6num: 3FFE::/24 > netname: ONLINE > descr:IPv6 Ne

Re: ... WWIU / Orientation

> > > which way is up? perhaps you had better state the > > problem in terms of X,Y,Z coordinates at a minium. > > Adding the fourth vector, time, may be useful as well; > > e.g. "... it was a router last night..." > Easy: horizontal is same direction as 19" mounting brackets ;)

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 11:10:32PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I don't understand how you can differentiate between a router and an L3 > > switch. In my view "L3 switch" is a marketing term. All high end boxes > > do hardware based IP f

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you could expand on the BGP scanner problems - we haven't seen them all the time we've been running 6500 native with full routes (about 1.5 years now). BGP Scanner taking up close to 100% of CPU on a box periodical

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

75xx/GSR, dCEF? 75xx/GSR are L3 switches then. ;) Not to add flame-bait, but.. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/switch_c/xcprt2/xcdcef.htm Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand how you can different

Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

I don't know if Paul's system lets you log in twice, so I can't check the survey questions, but they asked approximately whether you were - a registrar - an ISP (or something like that) - a WEB end-user. The problem is that most Internet users aren't WEB end-users, they're

Re: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and

> > > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 10:30, Bill Manning wrote: > > bing! the 3ffe:: entries are for experimental services -only- > > while the 2001:: will eventually be production services. > > and the test are -not- primarly about connectivity. > > Last time I checked on this 3ffe:: was n

RE: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

That suggests that it's an ASL (Analog Subscriber Line)... Pete Templin Senior Staff Engineer TexLink Communications (210) 892-4183 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bradley Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:05 PM To: Christopher X. Candreva; [EM

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Boyle wrote: | | At 04:43 PM 10/13/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | |> > 7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal. |> |> Yep, I think from now on, we should make this a primary distinction |> between switch and a router: If a

RE: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities andstill no working contacts...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- William Caban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 10:30, Bill Manning wrote: > > bing! the 3ffe:: entries are for experimental services -only- > > while the 2001:: will eventually be production services. > > and the test are -n

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe you could expand on the BGP scanner problems - we haven't seen > them all the time we've been running 6500 native with full routes (about > 1.5 years now). BGP Scanner taking up close to 100% of CPU on a box periodically. GSR doesn't seem to do

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote: > > Does the 7600 have the same BGP Scanner problem as the 6509 does? > > I've still yet to see anything that suggests that the difference between > the 7600 and the 6500 is more than just a paint job and a marketting job. Whee! Even more of a reason not

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't understand how you can differentiate between a router and an L3 > switch. In my view "L3 switch" is a marketing term. All high end boxes > do hardware based IP forwarding, whether their ancestry is from the L2 > or the L3 side. To me somethi

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

> A small problem... all of my 7200s have horizontal line cards as do the > Juniper M5/7/10/20. The smaller 7100, 3700, 3600, 2600 also have > horizontal line cards too. So... here is a correction. > > "From now on, we should make this a primary distinction between switch > and a router: If a dev

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

> > Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between > > these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router > > with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with very good > > routing capabilities. > > Does the 7600 have the same BGP Scanner pr

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote: >>> I've still yet to see anything that suggests that the difference >>> between the 7600 and the 6500 is more than just a paint job and a >>> marketting job. > On Monday, October 13, 2003 10:37 PM, Robert A. Hayden > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 760

Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

Christopher X. Candreva wrote: I've seen this in the press repeatedly and it drives me almost as nuts as having to call DSL access hardware a modem. What's wrong with calling it a modem? It MOdulates and DEModulates between a digital bitstream and an analog signal. Bradley

Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

Christopher X. Candreva wrote: I've seen this in the press repeatedly and it drives me almost as nuts as having to call DSL access hardware a modem. Your DSL access hardware would not be a too good DSL access hardware without a modem so I suggest you consider putting some money aside for counc

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

At 04:43 PM 10/13/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal. Yep, I think from now on, we should make this a primary distinction between switch and a router: If a device has vertical line cards, it is a router, if horizontal, it is a switch. Work

Re: BellSouth prefix deaggregation

] Thanks Rob. Noticed one of our routes there that an upstream was also ] originating, for no reason. That's cleared up, so one less inconsistent ] AS... No worries and thank YOU. :) -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

6500-NEBS has also vertical boards ... Arnold On Monday, October 13, 2003 10:37 PM, Robert A. Hayden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal. > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote: > >> >> On Mon Oct 13, 2003 at 01:19:21PM -0700, Tom (Uni

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

> 7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal. Yep, I think from now on, we should make this a primary distinction between switch and a router: If a device has vertical line cards, it is a router, if horizontal, it is a switch. Works well for 7500/12000/5x00/6500. ;) -alex

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

7600 is also vertical boards whereas the 6500 is horizontal. On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Simon Lockhart wrote: > > On Mon Oct 13, 2003 at 01:19:21PM -0700, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: > > > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michel Py wrote: > > > Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Bet

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon Oct 13, 2003 at 01:19:21PM -0700, Tom (UnitedLayer) wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michel Py wrote: > > Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between > > these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router > > with very good switching capabili

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Michel Py wrote: > Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between > these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router > with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with very good > routing capabilities. Does the 7600 ha

Re: BellSouth prefix deaggregation

Rob Thomas wrote: Hi, NANOGers. ] Next topic: multiple origin ASNs .. Ooo, one of our faves. :) For a simple view: Thanks, Rob, for Team Cymru. Thanks Rob. Noticed one of our routes there that an upstr

Re: [6bone] Reserved ASN 64702, 6to4, 2 ghosts, other oddities and still no working contacts...

On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 10:30, Bill Manning wrote: > bing! the 3ffe:: entries are for experimental services -only- > while the 2001:: will eventually be production services. > and the test are -not- primarly about connectivity. Last time I checked on this 3ffe:: was not "tagged"

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Matthew S. Hallacy > Sent: October 13, 2003 1:21 PM > To: Shazad - eServers; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Extreme BlackDiamond > > > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:52:59PM +0100, Shazad - eServers

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

[substitutions for offensive terms are mine] > > >You know what, go and [run windows] yourself you little [manager].. > > >Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions. > > >Best Regards, > >Shazad > >eServers - driving the "e" into your business. > > This is the sec

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

> > On the other hand, 6500s can do both L2 and L3 rather well, including > > BGP. > > Aren't most of the 6500 blades the same as the 7600 ones anyway? Between > these two IMHO we are looking at a blurry distinction between a router > with very good switching capabilities and a L3 switch with ver

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Yes, GSRs are better at routing but they lack L2 capability and it's a >> very expensive (and lousy unless you have Engine3 cards) GE plattform. > Steinar Haug > On the other hand, 6500s can do both L2 and L3 rather well, including > BGP. Aren't most of the 6500 b

Re: BellSouth prefix deaggregation (was: as6198 aggregation event)

Hi, NANOGers. ] Next topic: multiple origin ASNs .. Ooo, one of our faves. :) For a simple view: Thanks, Rob, for Team Cymru. -- Rob Thomas http://www.cymru.com ASSERT(coffee != empty);

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

> Shazad wrote: > I did it accidentally BUT quoted him, he literally bounced my > message as If I had sent it to NANOG. Check your headers and > you will find out, I never sent that message to NANOG. Indeed. Although you did screw up by quoting his first private message, it does appear to me lik

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

> Yes, GSRs are better at routing but they lack L2 capability and it's a > very expensive (and lousy unless you have Engine3 cards) GE plattform. On the other hand, 6500s can do both L2 and L3 rather well, including BGP. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

BTW: There are Foundry and Extreme related mailing lists in the same location as a few other vendor lists. http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/foundry-nsp http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/extreme-nsp http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listi

Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: > see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ > > this is not an icann thing btw, it's just me. OK, this is nit-picky, but the errors a wildcard will pick up are NOT 404 errors. A wild card could not possibly ever pick up a 404 error. Since 404 is a server err

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Pekka Savola wrote: > Just don't use extremes as routers, and you will be much, much happier. It > _might_ work in the dumbest, unicast-only setups, but I have a lot of > doubts about anything more complex than that. I think you're being too pessimistic. For instance, some o

Re: abuse from a user of this list

> Now, I _do_ take offense to being called a script kiddie. I've been doing > development for more then 7 years in various projects under various aliases. What aliases? Unless the "aliases" you've used include "vixie" and "rbush", I think this is testament to your being a script kiddie, concea

Re: abuse from a user of this list

"Booth, Michael (ENG)" wrote: > > > Based on the web pages at http://2mbit.com/ and http://www.sosdg.org/, > > I see an effort to improve the community not found at either > > http://www.poptix.net nor http://techmonkeys.org/. > > I didn't draw that conclusion at all. Much the opposite, judging

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:52:59PM +0100, Shazad - eServers wrote: > > If you are so smart, GO and CHECK the HEADERS of that POST. Was it me? NO IT > WASENT. No offense, but: Received: by segue.merit.edu (Postfix)

Re: abuse from a user of this list

- Original Message - From: "Booth, Michael (ENG)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "William Allen Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:18 AM Subject: Re: abuse from a user of this list > I didn't draw that conclusion at all. Much the opposite, jud

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Mans Nilsson wrote: > Subject: Re: Extreme BlackDiamond Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 12:19:20PM -0400 > Quoting Haesu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Don't mean to get off-topic... but speaking the Extremes.. > > Has anyone here had luck with doing some BGP stuff with Sumit 48i?

RE: abuse from a user of this list

Why do we even have this pissing match going on in NANOG? Take it off line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Booth, Michael (ENG) Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:18 AM To: William Allen Simpson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Based on the web

Re: abuse from a user of this list

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 12:15:02PM -0400, William Allen Simpson wrote: > Put me down as caring. Moreover, as a long-time participant in this > forum, I'm particularly concerned about even anecdotal evidence that > one of our posters is mounting an attack on another. For clarification, no, I

NANOG and Pre NANOG social Events

Hello Everyone, Social Events are as follows: Saturday Night: House of Blues for a concert featuring Soulive with Me'Shell Ndegeocello http://www.hob.com/tickets/eventdetail.asp?eventid=22654 The doors open at 7:30, so we'll meet in the Hotel Lobby at 6:30pm and either cab or walk over togeth

RE: Frustrating loss of connectivity...

I've seen a similar issue with a carrier in Boston, also within Level3. You can give them a call, although I am sure someone will object, I have never had a problem with them being helpful, even for a non customer. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

>>> From here, [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks like a relatively small colo >>> customer. Yes we are relatively small, we colocate around 1500 servers in our own suite. What's he looking at big switches for? Quite frankly I can look for what I want, we are expanding into Europe and came here f

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Haesu wrote: > Don't mean to get off-topic... but speaking the Extremes.. > Has anyone here had luck with doing some BGP stuff with Sumit 48i? Yes. The only thing I miss in their implementation is the equivalent of "neighbor default-originate". -- Mikael Abrahamssone

Re: Frustrating loss of connectivity...

Doh! silly me... I didn't read the whole email in the first time.. Sorry about useless post :( -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and implementation http://www.towardex.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cell: (978)394-2867 | Office: (978)2

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

Subject: Re: Extreme BlackDiamond Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 12:19:20PM -0400 Quoting Haesu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Don't mean to get off-topic... but speaking the Extremes.. > Has anyone here had luck with doing some BGP stuff with Sumit 48i? Not beyond lab setups, but yes, they speak BGP. We

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

I agree with you, Bouncing private messages onto the forum with a purpose of making "me" look bad is really SAD. I did it accidentally BUT quoted him, he literally bounced my message as If I had sent it to NANOG. Check your headers and you will find out, I never sent that message to NANOG. Mayb

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

> This is the second time recently that a member of > this list has dragged their own personal disputes > onto the list. I don't particularly like this > and I would be happy to see the list owner come > down hard on the perp. Banishment? You should make sure you know who the perp is before maki

Re: abuse from a user of this list

> Based on the web pages at http://2mbit.com/ and http://www.sosdg.org/, > I see an effort to improve the community not found at either > http://www.poptix.net nor http://techmonkeys.org/. I didn't draw that conclusion at all. Much the opposite, judging from their photo gallery, they seem lik

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > Is it just me, or could nanog really benefit from being moderated, or at > least nanog-post being access controlled? God knows why I've kept skimming > it even after the majority of actual clueful network operators have long Are you volunteerin

Re: Frustrating loss of connectivity...

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:48:39 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > RFO: Colocation with people who have "business class DSL connectivity". Notice that although doing that sort of colo is often frowned upon, the DSL isn't the issue here. His direct provider is being responsive, but THEIR upstream is fai

Re: Frustrating loss of connectivity...

Hi, have you tried the return path traceroute... Like, run traceroute _From_ the server behind dsl and back to you? Having traceroutes done either way may be helpful often times b/c sometimes problems do rise on asymetric routing situation where provider is doing bgp with x no. of providers. P

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

Don't mean to get off-topic... but speaking the Extremes.. Has anyone here had luck with doing some BGP stuff with Sumit 48i? Thanks, -hc -- Haesu C. TowardEX Technologies, Inc. Consulting, colocation, web hosting, network design and implementation http://www.towardex.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ce

Re: abuse from a user of this list

"Matthew S. Hallacy" wrote: > > This is not a list issue, nor does anyone on the list care. > Put me down as caring. Moreover, as a long-time participant in this forum, I'm particularly concerned about even anecdotal evidence that one of our posters is mounting an attack on another. > Plea

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Andy Walden wrote: > Actually, as far as I know, all switches and routers use the CPU to > process ICMP. It is a control protocol and the safest option is to > ensure the vendor has implemented some sort of CPU rate-limiting so it > can't be overwhelmed. Redbacks SmartEdge 8

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

Joel, If you think this was a sales lead, then you are wrong. I admit, I have not really used mailing list before and accidentally CC nanog on the first correspondence, but for him to email me back calling " xxx" (you already know) was not on. I replied back to his email and DID NOT CC NANO

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 04:39:09PM +0100, Shazad - eServers wrote: > > My apologies, There was no need for him to go around calling me a "dumb > f***". > I apologies, I didn't realise I had posted his message onto the nanog > mailing list.. If the shoe fits... Is it just me, or could nanog real

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

If the shoe fits... -alex On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Shazad - eServers wrote: > > My apologies, There was no need for him to go around calling me a "dumb > f***". > I apologies, I didn't realise I had posted his message onto the nanog > mailing list.. > > Sorry. > > Regards, > Shazad > > > >

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

>You know what, go and fuck yourself you little whore.. >Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions. >Best Regards, >Shazad >eServers - driving the "e" into your business. This is the second time recently that a member of this list has dragged their own personal dispu

Re: Frustrating loss of connectivity...

> I am located in Madison, WI, and I have my mail/server machine geek.net > co-located in Minneapolis on a business-class DSL line (1.5m/384k). For > the past couple of months, I'll lose connectivity for about 5 minutes > several times a day. > > Any thoughts or recommendations here? RFO: Colo

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

At 16:39 13/10/2003, you wrote: M apologies, There was no need for him to go around calling me a "dumb f***". I apologies, I didn't realise I had posted his message onto the nanog mailing list.. Marketroids using public mailing lists for sales leads should learn list etiquette and reply etiquette

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

My apologies, There was no need for him to go around calling me a "dumb f***". I apologies, I didn't realise I had posted his message onto the nanog mailing list.. Sorry. Regards, Shazad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shazad - eSer

Frustrating loss of connectivity...

Hey all, I apologize for posting this here, especially for what is essentially an end-user broadband issue, but I'm looking at what appears to be a link a few hops upstream from me that has been flapping frequently and I can't get our provider to look into it. I am located in Madison, WI, and I

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

Mikael, The 24e3 would be used for dedicated-servers only, for colocation/trasnit selling we will be using the Summit 48I. Thanks Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions. Best Regards, Shazad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

You know what, go and fuck yourself you little whore.. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions. Best Regards, Shazad eServers - driving the "e" into your business. -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2003 16:

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Shazad - eServers wrote: > AGGREG : These would be a mix of Extreme Alpines/BigIron4000 - 8000/Summit > 48i's depending on whether we are offering colo, ded-hosting, managed > services etc... > > ACCESS : Extreme Summit 24e3 or Foundry series. I recommend you to stay away f

Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

> > see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ > > An incentive to take the survey: If you fill it out, it'll tell you the > aggregated results so far, which are, lemme tell you, pretty surprising. > Who knew that NANOG subscribers would anonymously admit they were > clueless? :-) that's jus

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

Randy, Thank you very much for your feedback, I really appreciate all the comments I am receiving. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions. Best Regards, Shazad -Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2003 16:03 T

Re: i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: > see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ > this is not an icann thing btw, it's just me. An incentive to take the survey: If you fill it out, it'll tell you the aggregated results so far, which are, lemme tell you, pretty surprising. Who kne

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

Shawn, London, UK. Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any more questions. Best Regards, Shazad eServers - driving the "e" into your business. -Original Message- From: Fisher, Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 October 2003 15:54 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

Matt, Yes we are that is correct. We will be offering COLO and dedicated hosting and need some serious horse-power. Right now, we are set on this..,. ROUTER : 2 * Juniper M40's, these will be connected from day one to darkfibre. DISTRID : 2 * Extreme BlackDiamonds with redundant routing engine

i'd like to know your opinions on the com/net wildcard issue

see http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/comnetsurv/ this is not an icann thing btw, it's just me.

Re: .name TLD - resolution issues

Suresh Ramasubramanian writes on 10/12/2003 8:29 PM: Hi there We operate webmail services for the .name TLD (MX and DNS resolution are handled by the nic.name people). An update - forwarding a post to bind-announce From: Peter Losher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: ISC To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Shazad - eServers wrote: > I would like to add one comment onto this, the Black Diamonds would be used > for purely switching and nothing else. Then you're betting on the right horse. Get the G8Xi cards and two MSMs per chassi and you have linerate everything. > As for as

RE: Extreme BlackDiamond

Firstly, a BIG BIG thanks to all the replies. I would like to add one comment onto this, the Black Diamonds would be used for purely switching and nothing else. The Junipers would do the routing, BGP tables etc... As for as TheTollyGroup how much credibility do these guys hold? Thanks again. -

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

>>> I can understand how a virus like Welchia can affect a flow-based >>> architecture like Extremes. I was under the impression that CEF >>> enabled Cisco gear wouldnt have this problem, but Cisco has >>> instructions on their webpage on how deal with it and cites CPU >>> usage as the reason

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Andy Walden wrote: > > I don't know of anyone else who *routes* ICMP. Yes, ICMP packets destined > > for the router, but Extreme actually CPU route all ICMP packets passing > > thru. > > I'm not 100% sure what your trying to say above, but all I'm refering to > is packets de

Re: BellSouth prefix deaggregation (was: as6198 aggregation event)

On Sun, Oct 12, 2003 at 01:18:59AM -0400, Terry Baranski wrote: > More on this - > > Two of BellSouth's AS's (6197 & 6198) have combined to inject around > 1,000 deaggregated prefixes into the global routing tables over the last > few weeks (in addition to their usual load of ~600+ for a total o

Re: abuse from a user of this list

This is not a list issue, nor does anyone on the list care. Please take your blathering back to IRC. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=denigrate -- Matthew S. HallacyFUBAR, LART, BOFH Certified http://www.poptix.net GPG public key

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003, Andy Walden wrote: > > > Actually, as far as I know, all switches and routers use the CPU to > > process ICMP. It is a control protocol and the safest option is to ensure > > the vendor has implemented some sort of CPU rate-li

Re: Extreme BlackDiamond

> > I can understand how a virus like Welchia can affect a flow-based > > architecture like Extremes. I was under the impression that CEF enabled > > Cisco gear wouldnt have this problem, but Cisco has instructions on their > > webpage on how deal with it and cites CPU usage as the reason. With CE

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