Wow...Apparently in the aftermath of the hurricane, and in the midst
of martial law, there is still an operational data center in New Orleans:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/
Fergie (Paul Ferguson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Since gripes here on the list about opsts regarding th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's clearly possible to find telco engineers with 5/10/15 years experience in
running PSTN (might even find somebody with 40-50 years? :). It's possible to
find network engineers with lots of BGP experience. Where do you find a senior
engineer with 5+ years experience
We have already been asked about where our datacenters fit in with the
TIA942 spec in several RFPs! It does cover some good topics, but it also
leaves out the design and structure of many things which are far more
likely to cause an outage than the copper and fiber physical plants.
Yeah..
At 10:20 PM 8/31/2005, you wrote:
Eesh... I grabbed a copy of this thing. In a cursory over-read... I am
afraid if people (people defined by lim(clue) -> 0) start implementing
datacenters by this guide. This would be a BRILLIANT document as the
reading material for a college-level course. Howe
Eesh... I grabbed a copy of this thing. In a cursory over-read... I am
afraid if people (people defined by lim(clue) -> 0) start implementing
datacenters by this guide. This would be a BRILLIANT document as the
reading material for a college-level course. However, I'd be concerned
if a CxO r
Susan Harris wrote:
http://www.arin.net/ARIN-XVI/ipv6_workshop.html
https://www.merit.edu/nanog/registration.form.html
Does anyone besides me notice that there is no venue listed on either page?
Or am I just missing something?
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek 888-480-4638 PGP
Yes.
And thanks.
- ferg
-- "Hannigan, Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 30058 FDCSERVERS - FDCservers.net LL 123 43
> 21840 SAGONET-TPA - Sago Networks 53 26
>
Much better. And no IL-CERT. :-)
Is it safe to say the resolutions, at least in these two
cases, are because
> 30058 FDCSERVERS - FDCservers.net LL 123 43
> 21840 SAGONET-TPA - Sago Networks 53 26
>
Much better. And no IL-CERT. :-)
Is it safe to say the resolutions, at least in these two
cases, are because of others mitigation activities i.e.
snatching back the RR's, shutting off t
Keeping is step with Gadi's language from last month:
Below is a periodic public report from the Drone Army(DA)/Botnet
Research and mitigation mailing list.
For this report it should be noted that we base our analysis on
the data we have accumulated from various sources.
According to our analys
unsubscribe
On Aug 31, 2005, at 6:02 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:
Hey. Hopefully this is operational.
If someone could send me a copy of the current (or most recent)
Peering Contact Database. I know Bill Norton used to distribute it,
but I seem
to have fallen off the distribution list or its getting eaten b
Hey. Hopefully this is operational.
If someone could send me a copy of the current (or most recent) Peering
Contact Database. I know Bill Norton used to distribute it, but I seem
to have fallen off the distribution list or its getting eaten by my spam
filters.
(really operational: I want to
> From: Joe Abley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: the right list to use for talking about nanog is nanog-futures
> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:20:27 -0400
> To: NANOG list
>
>
> On 31-Aug-2005, at 14:52, Barry Shein wrote:
>
> > Sorry for the interruption but I wish just once I could follow a
> >
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
Someone is... or trying to, at least, watch and contact the
responsible owners/registrars, but in some cases they aren't
apparently eager to assist.
Some registrars are good and some are bad and without better controls
being developed by ICA
On 31-aug-2005, at 21:19, Andy Davidson wrote:
There are two types of VoIP: voice over a private, tightly
controlled IP network, and voice over the public internet. Now
obviously the latter is a risky proposition, as it imports all
the limitations of the internet into the voice service.
On 31-Aug-2005, at 14:52, Barry Shein wrote:
Sorry for the interruption but I wish just once I could follow a
topical list where 50% or more of the traffic wasn't people posting or
arguing about how this or that post was off-topic!
As Randy alluded earlier, the right list to use for this kind
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:19:23 BST, Andy Davidson said:
> Perhaps you've made a fair and good comment on the marurity of most
> off-the-shelf voip products or implementations. But the key, in my
> mind, is that VoIP across the internet, when done well, imports all of
> the opportunities of intern
--On August 31, 2005 2:03:01 PM +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<...>
On the other hand, in a circuit switched
network you can do all kinds of interesting stuff (such as restarting
all your control software) without breaking your sessions. We're only
now seeing this in IP, and I think it's not
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
There are two types of VoIP: voice over a private, tightly controlled
IP network, and voice over the public internet. Now obviously the
latter is a risky proposition, as it imports all the limitations of the
internet into the voice service.
I'm not so sure; som
Sorry for the interruption but I wish just once I could follow a
topical list where 50% or more of the traffic wasn't people posting or
arguing about how this or that post was off-topic!
The meta-banter gets worse than the banter; the latter at least
usually touches on some possibly interesting
Some ISPs managed to get FEMA to let a tanker through and that's how
we're back up. It wasn't pretty though.
Marshall Eubanks:
I remember that after 9/11 the real network hits started about 3 days
later, when the diesel generators started running out of fuel in the
downtown telco hotels, and
Simon Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> I guess there may be a need for some updates of DNS services due to
> the incident itself, or similar elsewhere, but in almost all cases
> this can be overridden further up the chain of DNS authority.
I live just a mile down the road from the ISP I
Someone is... or trying to, at least, watch and contact the
responsible owners/registrars, but in some cases they aren't
apparently eager to assist.
That's why the ones that are caught end up in various
RBL's...
- ferg
-- Alex Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Shouldn't someone be watchin
Shouldn't someone be watching these, though?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# whois paypal.com
[...]
PAYPAL.COM.SV04.COM
PAYPAL.COM.LIMITSPEED.NET
PAYPAL.COM
While I agree in concept that this is not how the internet runs, and I am
not proposing a domain name police force be instituted, it seems to me
Since gripes here on the list about opsts regarding the
Hurricane Katrina aftermath issues, I just wanted to point
out that Bong Boing has seemingly become the clearinghouse
for much tech info on efforts to provide some sort tech and
communications assistance in the Gulf Coast region.
So, I'd sta
> Granted there are a lot of things that go into this. In a disaster
> situation, it's important to make sure that your machines and
> network continue operating, but what about provisioning to make sure
> you can keep NOC staff there?
We, as a society, do know how to solve this problem.
It's c
Not privy to directNic's full responsibilities, but of their public facing
responsibilities I'm not sure DNS admininstrative activities are worth
risking life and limb for.
I guess there may be a need for some updates of DNS services due to the
incident itself, or similar elsewhere, but in alm
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 03:48:52PM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
> the steering committee has been discussing the idea of a nanog blog.
> of course it would be directed to operational content and not your
> daily pointer to some cartoon etc.
Manners, Randy.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>We know from the Mississippi river floods from a few
>years ago, that diesel generators are not sufficient
>in a major flood. The problem is that the diesel gets
>burned up before the roads are opened to resupply the
>fuel. It is too early to tell whether these guys
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:47:43 +0200
Chris Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For those that don't know, directNIC as well as some other NOCs are
> located together in a high-rise in New Orleans.
>
> Despite everyone's warnings (including my own!) some tough-as-nails guys
> from directNIC sta
> It also mentions the power shortage, and that they are using diesel
> generated power.
> I think if nothing else, this is at least a success story of building a
> NOC which can provide critical infrastructure that will survive major
> disasters.
We know from the Mississippi river floods from a
For those that don't know, directNIC as well as some other NOCs are
located together in a high-rise in New Orleans.
Despite everyone's warnings (including my own!) some tough-as-nails guys
from directNIC stayed behind to battle the hurricane and keep the
networks online.
[snip]
While the safety
> ...that talks about all of the "gee whiz" tech stuff
> that is getting deployed to assist in the aftermath of
> Katrina:
Turn walkie-talkies into VoIP devices
http://www.dingotel.com/2way/index.asp
Satellite IP modems
http://www.starband.com/residential/index.asp
Mobile WiFi mesh networks
htt
> With VoIP, packet loss and delay
> eventually make the service useless. So VoIP fails harder than either
> traditional IP apps and PSTN.
That is only in theory. In practice, during times of
impending congestion collapse, IP network operators
reconfigure the network to cope. For instance when
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Edigarov) [Wed 31 Aug 2005, 11:40 CEST]:
Please help me with this issue.
Any success stories with config samples are welcome...
You're not terribly informative about what issue you have. Do you
wonder if it will work? What makes you think it won't work?
The ea
There are still remaining issues...
- ferg
-- Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's good, however, I regret that the issue had to be
> aired here because it didn't get attention it deserved
> through "proper channels" and elsewhere...
If I read the timestamps correctly, your pos
Interestingly enough, there's an article on MSNBC:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9131498/
...that talks about all of the "gee whiz" tech stuff
that is getting deployed to assist in the aftermath of
Katrina:
[snip]
Among the first high-tech responders was Cisco Systems, which is setting up
mobi
> That's good, however, I regret that the issue had to be
> aired here because it didn't get attention it deserved
> through "proper channels" and elsewhere...
If I read the timestamps correctly, your posting arrived via the NANOG
list *after* the domain had been pulled.
That's good, however, I regret that the issue had to be
aired here because it didn't get attention it deserved
through "proper channels" and elsewhere...
- ferg
-- Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But it caught my eye that SOMEBODY at Yahoo! ought to be reviewing
> domain names like
[snip]
The Telecommunications Industry Association (TIA) -- the people who
brought you the CAT standards for unshielded twisted pair cabling --
recently undertook a vast challenge to publish a definitive document
encompassing best practices and design considerations for every single
aspect of the
On 31-aug-2005, at 10:04, Mark Foster wrote:
I do see a risk in the move toward IP systems at the edge. At the
core is a different story to at least some degree.
Twas also pointed out that British Telecom are heading down the
same track as Telecom NZ, and their rollout should be completed
> >wondered why some queues were getting long. decided to actually
> >look before running the mailing list bounce scrubber. a whole
> >lot of [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc. beware. crank up them queues.
> >exim hack is some variation on
> >
> > tulane.edu * F,12h,30m; G,24h,3h,1.5; F,30d,12h
Given t
> "Red Cross looks to IT for post-Katrina recovery"
> http://www.computerworld.
> com/securitytopics/security/recovery/story/0,10801,104250,00.html
>
> ..would perhaps elicit some operational suggestions from the peanut
> gallery on how to perhaps assist in this effort, or prhaps contribute
> to
Hello Everybody,
Please help me with this issue.
Any success stories with config samples are welcome...
Thanks a lot in advance.
--
With best regards,
GRED-RIPE
* jc dill:
> Steve Brown wrote:
>> Sweet, got my first piece of phishing SPAM (to the address I use for
>> this list) shortly after posting a couple of days ago.
>
> That's probably because the nanog list is gatewayed to a newsgroup.
> Your posting address (and everyone else's posting address) h
> But it caught my eye that SOMEBODY at Yahoo! ought to be reviewing
> domain names like "bankofthewestupdate.com"
Registrars should as well, but this is not the way the Internet works.
Sometimes, this is a good thing, sometimes, it's not.
It seems that the A RR has been pulled around 2005-08-30
At the risk of replying to myself,
The below article is about the core, not the edge
Theres another article on Telecom's site relating to trials for edge IP
equipment. So my take on the NZ situation was a bit warped.
I do see a risk in the move toward IP systems at the edge. At the
core i
Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
Telephone companies struggled to restore service
FYI - if you are trying to reach someone in the impacted area who has a
cell phone but you can't get thru because "all circuits are busy" then
give SMS a try. I exchanged 8 SMS messages[1] between 15:58 and 16:2
Steve Brown wrote:
Sweet, got my first piece of phishing SPAM (to the address I use for
this list) shortly after posting a couple of days ago.
That's probably because the nanog list is gatewayed to a newsgroup.
Your posting address (and everyone else's posting address) has been
exposed to a
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