Re: SWIP and Rwhois in the Real World

2005-09-07 Thread Edward Lewis
NetRange: 4.0.0.0 - 4.255.255.255 ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.level3.net:4321 % telnet rwhois.level3.net 4321 Trying 209.244.1.179... telnet: connect to address 209.244.1.179: Operation timed out Doesn't seem to have made much difference yet... Their rwhois seems to be terminally

Re: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
wheres the ops in this? dont get me wrong, i'm sympathetic with new orleans and also definitely not a bush supporter but this is verging on incitement and i dont see the point of the post to here On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This story was sent to you by: Fergie (Paul

Re: SWIP and Rwhois in the Real World

2005-09-07 Thread Michael . Dillon
(I should note that not only spammers I've seen doing this, many, many, many folks also have poorly configured/not-working rwhois servers :( ) I think this is due to the fact that the only publicly available rwhois server is wierd, cantankerous, and poorly documented. Perhaps our African

RE: SWIP and Rwhois in the Real World

2005-09-07 Thread Michael . Dillon
Looking for one that is mostly or fully put together, or a cookbook to assemble one from parts (i.e. MySQL, PHP, Apache, 3 rubber bands, 2 gallons of perl, etc...). ARIN themselves are happy to accept your database in various formats such as CSV files. LDAP was designed to allow queries to

Re: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Stephen J. Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wheres the ops in this? dont get me wrong, i'm sympathetic with new orleans and also definitely not a bush supporter but this is verging on incitement and i dont see the point of the post to here My guess: someone who doesn't like Paul (and

OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Bob Arthurs
Way OT, but very interesting- don't know if anyone saw this article about Yahoo collaborating with the Chinese government's police (from the BBC): http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4221538.stm If this is true, I for one will stop using Yahoo- I have spent alot of time in Asia

Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
If anyone hasn't figured it out yet, I didn't send this crap to the list... - ferg -- Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/

Re: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Brandon Butterworth
Look at the headers... it was obviously sent by tribuneinteractive, and it's pretty unlike Paul to do something like this. I just binned them as a poor fake, obvious because they didn't have all the header cruft of real Paul message brandon

Re: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
I absolutely am _not_ responsible in any way, shape, or form, for those messages. While some of my posts skirt the ever-changing topicality of the list, you have to admit -- I always send directly from my webmail account (wouldn't dream of sending from my corporate account :-) - ferg --

Re: level3.net in Chicago - high packet loss?!?

2005-09-07 Thread sdb
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, chip wrote: On 9/6/05, Joe Maimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the hop(s) following the one you see loss

Re: 3 men die in weekend crashes

2005-09-07 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 men die in weekend crashes While tragic, how is this even *remotely* on-topic for this list? jms

Re: SWIP and Rwhois in the Real World

2005-09-07 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Edward Lewis wrote: Their rwhois seems to be terminally down. Can we reclaim 4/8 from them now? Who is we? IANA says it belongs to BBN (ARIN not mentioned): http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space 004/8 Dec 92 Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc. 4/8 is most

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
This is not shaping up to be a very good month for Yahoo! all the way around -- at least PR-wise: http://techdirt.com/articles/20050907/0246214_F.shtml - ferg -- Bob Arthurs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Way OT, but very interesting- don't know if anyone saw this article about Yahoo

Re: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Apologies to the 'dawg.. perhaps those responsible would stop, its not very amusing Steve On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: I absolutely am _not_ responsible in any way, shape, or form, for those messages. While some of my posts skirt the ever-changing topicality of the

Re: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 7, 2005, at 12:25 PM, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: If anyone hasn't figured it out yet, I didn't send this crap to the list... No, actually, I thought you had just gone insane. =) Relevant headers from original post (if they can be trusted): Received: from

Re: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Andrew - Supernews
Patrick == Patrick W Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patrick Perhaps someone in authority can track and kill, er, ban Patrick this luser? Which luser? The one who first thought it would be a good idea for newspaper sites to have a mail this article to someone feature that forges the sender

RE: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Church, Chuck
So how did this newspaper server end up with NANOG posting rights anyway??? Chuck Church -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew - Supernews Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 9:51 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Very funny: While

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Michael . Dillon
So, if you email friends in China from a Yahoo account, you have been warned! What makes you think that gmail.com, mail.ru or your-isp.net is any different? Trust in human nature, perhaps? Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions in which they do business, and for

Re: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Apologies to the 'dawg.. perhaps those responsible would stop, its not very amusing It would have been slightly more amusing if they'd been from Faul Perguson. At least that way it would have been totally clear it was spoof/forgery. I almost

Re: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Mike Hughes
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Perhaps someone in authority can track and kill, er, ban this luser? The challenge with this is doing a traceback of the requesting IP that requested the article to be sent. Best practice would be to include the requesting IP (i.e. the one which

Re: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Joe Abley
On 7-Sep-2005, at 17:09, Church, Chuck wrote: So how did this newspaper server end up with NANOG posting rights anyway??? Servers don't get posting rights. From: headers get posting rights.

RE: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Church, Chuck
Even if the sending server is in a different domain that the users's reply-to address? s48.tribuneinteractive.com != netzero.net (Keep in mind I'm not a mail admin, nor do I play one on TV...) Chuck -Original Message- From: Joe Abley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 7, 2005, at 9:50 AM, Andrew - Supernews wrote: Patrick == Patrick W Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patrick Perhaps someone in authority can track and kill, er, ban Patrick this luser? Which luser? The one who first thought it would be a good idea for newspaper sites to have a

Re: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 7, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Church, Chuck wrote: Even if the sending server is in a different domain that the users's reply-to address? s48.tribuneinteractive.com != netzero.net (Keep in mind I'm not a mail admin, nor do I play one on TV...) Yes. People are taught to use their local

Re: Very funny: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Jeffrey I. Schiller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Church, Chuck wrote: Even if the sending server is in a different domain that the users's reply-to address? s48.tribuneinteractive.com != netzero.net This is what SPF and friends are supposed to do. But they are not a panacea (not intended

Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Firewall Authentication Proxy for FTP and Telnet Sessions Buffer Overflow

2005-09-07 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20050907-auth_proxy.shtml. Affected Products = Vulnerable Products +-- Devices that are running the following release trains of Cisco IOS are affected if Firewall Authentication Proxy for FTP and/or Telnet Sessions is configured

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Owen DeLong
However, clearly, companies doing business in China under this set of rules are placing profits ahead of human rights. I, for one, will avoid patronizing any organization I know to be engaged in such practices. Owen pgpnvudC9baJQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Correct inclusion of rwhois info in WHOIS server output?

2005-09-07 Thread Albert Meyer
I've been talking to ARIN about the rwhois setup on our SWIPped blocks, and there appears to be a problem with the standard output from whois.arin.net. The two rwhois clients I've tried are rwhois and jwhois. The rwhois client behavior is something like this: 1. Query whois.arin.net. 2a. If the

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:10:12PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions in which they do business, and for international companies, that list of jurisdictions can be very, very long. Obeying the (local) law is, in most cases, very

Re: Yahoo! -- A Phisher-friendly hosting domain?

2005-09-07 Thread Rich Kulawiec
Two comments. soapbox First, it's everyone's responsibility to do what's necessary to prevent their operation from being an abuse source, vector, or support service. That includes registrars, web hosts, DNS providers, email services, consumer ISPs, webmail services, corporations, end-users --

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 7, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:10:12PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions in which they do business, and for international companies, that list of jurisdictions can be very, very long.

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:54:03AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: However, clearly, companies doing business in China under this set of rules are placing profits ahead of human rights. I, for one, will avoid patronizing any organization I know to be engaged in such practices. Owen There has

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 04:05:48PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Sep 7, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:10:12PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every company has to obey the laws of the jurisdictions in which they do business, and for international

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Sean Figgins
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Joseph S D Yao wrote: So, let's do the logic, as this is a simple schoolchild exercise. [snip] Therefore, if one is in mainland China to do business, then one does not have a conscience or a spine. It is probably that one does not have a conscience, is insane and does

Re: 3 men die in weekend crashes

2005-09-07 Thread Jeff Rosowski
uh... the guy hit a telephone pole.. may have caused an outage. On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 men die in weekend crashes While tragic, how is this even *remotely* on-topic for this

Re: SWIP and Rwhois in the Real World

2005-09-07 Thread Johann Botha
Hi nanog @2005.09.06_23:43:57_GMT+0200 When we wanted some of our own IP space at the end of last year, we looked at the rwhois server that ARIN recommended and soon realised that it was a useless piece of software. SWIP was simply not an option. We

Re: 3 men die in weekend crashes

2005-09-07 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 08:54:21AM -0400, Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3 men die in weekend crashes While tragic, how is this even *remotely* on-topic for this list? jms Look at the headers - this is

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Gadi Evron
Personally, I see doing business in China about as logical as, say, giving 430 6th graders laptops with Internet access, and expecting them to pay attention in the classroom... Oh, and cutting the sports programs to afford those laptops. Man, if someone had given me a laptop in 6th grade, I

Re: Correct inclusion of rwhois info in WHOIS server output?

2005-09-07 Thread Todd Vierling
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Albert Meyer wrote: 1. Does anyone agree that the present lack of rwhois server information in the initial WHOIS response for SWIPped blocks is a problem? I think the real problem here is that jwhois is preferring ARIN's whois service rather than their rwhois service,

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 12:07:41AM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: Personally, I see doing business in China about as logical as, say, giving 430 6th graders laptops with Internet access, and expecting them to pay attention in the classroom... Oh, and cutting the sports programs to afford those

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Bob Arthurs
I should add that my original statement pertains to (obviously) the Chinese *government* alone! I am concerned about the repression that the Chinese people experience, and the basic freedoms that they lack. As far as 'China hate' is concerned- this definately doesn't apply to me- many of

Re: Correct inclusion of rwhois info in WHOIS server output?

2005-09-07 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Albert Meyer wrote: I've been talking to ARIN about the rwhois setup on our SWIPped blocks, and there appears to be a problem with the standard output from whois.arin.net. Be carefull about using word standard, there is no standard output for whois plus both for ARIN and

Re: Correct inclusion of rwhois info in WHOIS server output?

2005-09-07 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 08/09/05, william(at)elan.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be carefull about using word standard, there is no standard output for whois plus both for ARIN and other RIRs output depends on the options used when queries. In this case, I think you wanted to say that the problem you see is with

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:38:17 EDT, Joseph S D Yao said: I do hate the lack of respect for human rights shown by the mainland Chinese government, and the slave labor prisons otherwise known as cheap labor. And the lack of self-respect that allows others to turn a blind eye to this for their

Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret police....

2005-09-07 Thread Gadi Evron
Bob Arthurs wrote: I should add that my original statement pertains to (obviously) the Chinese *government* alone! I am concerned about the repression that the Chinese people experience, and the basic freedoms that they lack. As far as 'China hate' is concerned- this definately doesn't

WISPA Wireless Crisis Center

2005-09-07 Thread W.D.McKinney
Katria network help about the Wireless side is at http://www.wispa.org/ and more pointedly at http://katrina.cnt.org/wordpress/ Hope this helps, -Dee