Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-18 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
Simply not true. See the kidnap case that was solved with cooperation between the Swedish and French police. The kidnapers in France was extradited to Sweden although they where arrested in France because they received the ransom there. Where was the crime commited though? If the kidnapping was

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-18 Thread Neil J. McRae
> Simply not true. See the kidnap case that was solved with cooperation > between the Swedish and French police. The kidnapers in France was > extradited to Sweden although they where arrested in France because > they received the ransom there. Where was the crime commited though? If the kidna

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-18 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
for Spain only. And some more newsit is not possible within the Schengen area to extradite one citizen from one member state to another. If one commits a crime, one is prosecuted and jailed in the country where the crime took place. Even more news.criminal law Simply not true. See

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-17 Thread alex
> > > > A friend of mine is such. He just happens to live in the DC area, > > > and has for 30 years... > > > > > > How would such a block be enforced...? > > > >Very simple. Someone names him in a lawsuit. A spanish judge issues > >subpoena. He ignores it and does not appear in court. Th

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries

2002-11-17 Thread alex
> > > Unnamed Administration sources reported that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > > > > > > This is not correct. Such laws tend to cover whatever is shown to the > > > > Spanish citizens, no matter by whom. > > > > > > Oh? > > > > > > A friend of mine is such. He just happens to live in the DC area

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-15 Thread David Lesher
> > A friend of mine is such. He just happens to live in the DC area, > > and has for 30 years... > > > > How would such a block be enforced...? > >Very simple. Someone names him in a lawsuit. A spanish judge issues >subpoena. He ignores it and does not appear in court. The same judge wou

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-15 Thread hostmaster
At 11:20 AM 11/15/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Unnamed Administration sources reported that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > > This is not correct. Such laws tend to cover whatever is shown to the > > Spanish citizens, no matter by whom. > > Oh? > > A friend of mine is such. He just happens t

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-15 Thread alex
> > Unnamed Administration sources reported that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > > This is not correct. Such laws tend to cover whatever is shown to the > > Spanish citizens, no matter by whom. > > Oh? > > A friend of mine is such. He just happens to live in the DC area, > and has for 30 years.

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-15 Thread David Lesher
Unnamed Administration sources reported that [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > This is not correct. Such laws tend to cover whatever is shown to the > Spanish citizens, no matter by whom. Oh? A friend of mine is such. He just happens to live in the DC area, and has for 30 years... How would such a

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-15 Thread alex
> > Who is 'they', Patrick ? Suppose Spain introduces that law. Fine, but > > that doesn't mean that other countries have to (or will ever) abide by > > that. Certainly in the U.S. you won't find that many who would support > > even the idea. > > This thread was started 'cause the Spanish (?) gov

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-15 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
-- On Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:11 PM -0500 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] supposedly wrote: On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:59:59 CST, Chris Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: You don't. If you configure your name server to block resolution of terrorist.com, you'll never find out that it goes to an Akamai s

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:59:59 CST, Chris Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > You don't. If you configure your name server to block resolution of > terrorist.com, you'll never find out that it goes to an Akamai server. Unfortunately, the politicians would actually believe that. msg06710/pgp000

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
-- On Friday, November 15, 2002 12:45 AM +0100 -- hostmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> supposedly wrote: At 05:28 PM 11/14/2002, Patrick W. Gilmore most definitely admitted: Suppose they just make it a law that each ISP has to block "domain.com" in their caching name servers? Who is 'they', Patri

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
-- On Thursday, November 14, 2002 6:01 PM -0500 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] supposedly wrote: On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:21 EST, "Patrick W. Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Not if you block the domain name terrorist.com from resolving at the caching name server, only if you block the IP address to

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:21 EST, "Patrick W. Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Not if you block the domain name terrorist.com from resolving at the > > caching name server, only if you block the IP address to which is resolves

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread hostmaster
At 05:28 PM 11/14/2002, Patrick W. Gilmore most definitely admitted: -- On Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:52 PM +0100 -- hostmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> supposedly wrote: This all strikes me as incorrect. The function of the domain name system is primarily to translate an IP number into a domain nam

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 17:26:21 EST, "Patrick W. Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Not if you block the domain name terrorist.com from resolving at the > caching name server, only if you block the IP address to which is resolves > on your routers. (Which in many cases will be an Akamai server

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Simon Waters
> This all strikes me as incorrect. The function of the domain name system is > primarily to translate an IP number into a domain name, vice versa. If a > user wishes to browse to he/she will arrive also at > . Remember some servers won't work with IP address, typically if

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
-- On Thursday, November 14, 2002 8:52 PM +0100 -- hostmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> supposedly wrote: This all strikes me as incorrect. The function of the domain name system is primarily to translate an IP number into a domain name, vice versa. If a user wishes to browse to

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
-- On Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:52 PM -0500 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] supposedly wrote: On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:11:14 EST, Jim Deleskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Its my understanding that since Akamai is based on DNS resolves if you where to use the method of blocking it within the DNS system it

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:11:14 EST, Jim Deleskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Its my understanding that since Akamai is based on DNS resolves if you where > to use the method of blocking it within the DNS system it would make no > difference. Although I'm no Akamai expert. The Akamai gotcha is th

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread hostmaster
This all strikes me as incorrect. The function of the domain name system is primarily to translate an IP number into a domain name, vice versa. If a user wishes to browse to   he/she will arrive also at . The domain name is propagated and subsequently refreshed t

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
-- On Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:11 PM -0500 -- Jim Deleskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> supposedly wrote: Its my understanding that since Akamai is based on DNS resolves if you where to use the method of blocking it within the DNS system it would make no difference. Although I'm no Akamai expert.

RE: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Jim Deleskie
rsday, November 14, 2002 11:59 AM To: Alif The Terrible; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries. Hi, In Spain Some provideers are blocking the resolv of this domains in their dns servers. Others block in the edge the ip actually associated with this do

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Daniel Concepcion
Hi, In Spain Some provideers are blocking the resolv of this domains in their dns servers. Others block in the edge the ip actually associated with this domains. Others don't block ;) Is very interesting know what happening if this domains move to Akamai or Digital Island. Deny this traffi

Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

2002-11-14 Thread Alif The Terrible
Good Morning, I am interested in how everyone who is affected by the recent Spanish Judicial order to block specific "terrorist affiliated" sites from access to Spanish nationals? Without re-starting the endless debate over how impossible this is in fact, since that is obvious -