Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread aljuhani
- Original Message - From: "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 16:35 Subject: Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com > > lots of folk sent email to me and not the list.

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Christ opher L. Morrow" writes: > > >On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > >> lots of folk sent email to me and not the list. most report >> worldnic responding with tcp 53 and not udp. would love to >> hear confirmation on list. can think of a number of caus

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Brett Frankenberger wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:22:41PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Simon Waters wrote: > > > > > The worldnic.com and worldnic.net appear to use the MMDDVV convention > > > for > > > SOA serial numbers, and s

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > lots of folk sent email to me and not the list. most report > worldnic responding with tcp 53 and not udp. would love to > hear confirmation on list. can think of a number of causes, > one possible, but just a stab in the dark, would be an > intentiona

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Peter Corlett
Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lots of folk sent email to me and not the list. most report worldnic > responding with tcp 53 and not udp. would love to hear confirmation > on list. can think of a number of causes, one possible, but just a > stab in the dark, would be an intentional hack a

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Edward Lewis
At 21:34 -0700 4/25/05, Rodney Joffe wrote: The culprit is dig. Ahh, dig. What version? You have to be running the latest at all times these days...so many changes... In my experiences with v6 the problems I have come down two are: 1) Broken testing tools. (See change 1610 in the BIND CHANGES

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
lots of folk sent email to me and not the list. most report worldnic responding with tcp 53 and not udp. would love to hear confirmation on list. can think of a number of causes, one possible, but just a stab in the dark, would be an intentional hack as a defense to a spoofed-ip attack. what a

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Simon Waters wrote: > Have to say we see no issues here with the worldnic.com nameservers, other > than they appear to be located on the same physical network. > > I think people should post queries that fail, including date/time, and full > "dig" output for that query from

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Kevin Loch
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: I'd say fix the resolver to not try resolve v6 where there exists no v6 connectivity I'd say fix the broken v6 connectivity. - Kevin

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Simon Waters
Have to say we see no issues here with the worldnic.com nameservers, other than they appear to be located on the same physical network. I think people should post queries that fail, including date/time, and full "dig" output for that query from the server they used, and the version of recursiv

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:19:51 PDT, "william(at)elan.net" said: > Perhaps a solution is to specifically enable ipv6 dns resolution as > preferable to ipv4 or the other way around. This could perhaps be > switch in resolv.conf or nsswitch.conf. Something like: > /etc/resolv.conf > search example.co

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Jerry Pasker
something *very* strange is going on. the worldnic servers have been giving delayed or no results for days now. and nsi is hoping we and the wsj/nyt won't notice. I agree 100%. but it's probably time for us all to dump symptoms here and figure it out as a community, as the dog with the bone ain

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:34:54 PDT, Rodney Joffe said: I am not sure whether the correct solution is to "fix" dig so that is tries ipv4, or to get the os "fixed" on a dual stack capable system so that if there is not ipv6 connectivity it disables that par

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Randy Bush
> So how is it supposed to "know" that it doesn't have an ipv6 connection? in my case, because o no interfaces have v6 addresses o v6 stack is not present o ... it should also not use smoke signals, analog voice phone, ... the chances of a box having a v6 connection to *anything* today is

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 21:34:54 PDT, Rodney Joffe said: > I am not sure whether the correct solution is to "fix" dig so that is tries > ipv4, or to get the os "fixed" on a dual stack capable system so that if > there is not ipv6 connectivity it disables that part of the system. I > suspect the first

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 4/26/05, Rodney Joffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The culprit is dig. > > I am not sure whether the correct solution is to "fix" dig so that is tries > ipv4, or to get the os "fixed" on a dual stack capable system so that if > there is not ipv6 connectivity it disables that part of the sy

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Rodney Joffe
Randy, and others with this issue... On 4/25/05 5:24 PM, "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > something *very* strange is going on. the worldnic servers have > been giving delayed or no results for days now. and nsi is hoping > we and the wsj/nyt won't notice. > > i don't think this

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Janet Sullivan
Matt Larson wrote: a.gtld-servers.net and b.gtld-servers.net have records. Some applications and stacks try the v6 address first if it's available and will appear to hang if you don't have v6 connectivity. That may very well be what's happening here. Are the records for a & b.gtld-serve

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Well, the first thing any engineer worth their saly would ask in a situatin such as this is "Were any changes implemented, concurrent with the appearance of these problems, which would have possibly account for this?" This problem has fairly wide-spread implications, it would appear, and the lac

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Matt Larson
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Randy Bush wrote: > i don't think this > > roam.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> doc -p -w worldnic.net > Doc-2.1.4: doc -p -w worldnic.net > Doc-2.1.4: Starting test of worldnic.net. parent is net. > Doc-2.1.4: Test date - Mon Apr 25 14:20:45 HST 2005 > ;; res_

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Randy Bush
something *very* strange is going on. the worldnic servers have been giving delayed or no results for days now. and nsi is hoping we and the wsj/nyt won't notice. i don't think this roam.psg.com:/usr/home/randy> doc -p -w worldnic.net Doc-2.1.4: doc -p -w worldnic.net Doc-2.1.4: St

RE: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Graeme Clark wrote: > > > > >I saw some mention of this in a previous thread. Is anyone else still > >experiencing problems? We're seeing general slowness and the use of the > >truncate bit in responses, forcing to TCP mode. > > > We're still having a wack of issues with a

RE: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread Graeme Clark
>I saw some mention of this in a previous thread. Is anyone else still >experiencing problems? We're seeing general slowness and the use of the >truncate bit in responses, forcing to TCP mode. We're still having a wack of issues with all names on NSI nameservers. Poking around at other s

Re: Problems with NS*.worldnic.com

2005-04-25 Thread aljuhani
We have few servers with Interland / Miami. Today for around 1 hour 15 minutes the dns / tcp traffic was timing out. Httpd was very slow for domains with backup dns servers in Europe but other domains with DNS within Interland only was not resolving at all. I only noticed that traffic was not g