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> Kenny Sallee
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 4:03 PM
> To: Matt Levine; Dan Riley
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Tomatoes for Verisign at NANOG 29
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> > Has anybody thought to explore the trademark
> > implications of sitefinder?
> >
> > For
KS> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:02:31 -0700 (PDT)
KS> From: Kenny Sallee
KS> to their own Site Finder site, I'm sure they can
KS> redirect to other large corporations, who would
KS> probably pay for that kind of service. Buy this
VeriGator? *cringe*
Eddy
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kenny Sallee
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 3:03 PM
> To: Matt Levine; Dan Riley
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Tomatoes for Verisign at NANOG 29
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>
> From another perspective, it could be how Verisign
> plans on making money o
> Has anybody thought to explore the trademark
> implications of sitefinder?
>
> For example, verisign is returning A records (and
> subsequently earning
> revenue from that traffic) for say:
>
> COKE-SOFT-DRINK.COM
> TIDE-DETERGENT.COM
>
> etc..
>
>From another perspective, it could be how
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:23:28 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Rob Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> You can save the rotten fruit for my presentation instead. I'm
> a moving target, and that makes it much more fun. :)
Except for the fact that Cliff is still with us, I would th
Hi, NANOGers.
Here is what I plan to do: Listen, and perhaps question. I'll
register my pleasure or displeasure through my subsequent
business and technical decisions. I may or may not approve of
what is said, but I'll extend common courtesy to those who say
it.
You can save the rotten fruit
>But, done politely, without the traditional throwing part.
Taking the tomatoes to the front of the room would be
disruptive to the meeting. I suggest that people keep
the tomato at their table and hold them in the air
when the Verisign people are introduced and again at
the end of the talk when
At 01:32 PM 16-10-03 -0700, David Meyer wrote:
>> I would also suggest that we try to make contact with a second-harvest or
>> other organization that may be able to use the tomatoes afterwards.
Or just use your time and resources to do some good for
those who are less fortunate in
On Oct 16, 2003, at 9:39 PM, Dan Riley wrote:
And write your congressmen to explain how Verisign is abusing a
government granted monopoly to stop others (including M$ and AOL) from
innovating at the edge, because that's where this is headed--Verisign
is ultimately counting on having better lobb
Gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Having been a part of many fraternity pranks along this line, I might
> remind some of a glitch with this line of thinking.
>
> VeriSign employees read this list. (Verisign shows up with tomatoes & red
> "I love VeriSign" shirts saying if you like the idea...w
In reference to some earlier politically active days:
Hey! Hey! Ver - i - sign !
How Many Domains Do You Think Are Thine?
Hilton
I think that the number of people showing that they oppose Verisign would
still carry the day on the meaning of the tomatoes and red shirts. Verisign
could try to delude themselves into believing it was ambiguous, but, I don't
think the press or the attendees would buy it.
Also, I don't think Veri
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:38:57 EDT, "Vachon, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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Well.. I severely doubt that any of t
I have to agree with Scott. Be professional.
Y'all can use tomato.net as examples if you want
(though actually that one belongs to buydomains.com,
which buys potentially resellable domain names.)
A more important concern is that they keep mentioning that they've
been talking to web users and lo
The two options are not mutually exclusive, and, since Verisign has
chosen to turn this into a press-battle, I think it would be good not
to ignore that battlefield.
Owen
--On Thursday, October 16, 2003 14:56 -0400 Chris Strandt
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Maybe a "vote" at the end of the present
I have no religion about the particular choice of fruit/vegetable (yes, I
know
tomatoes are technically fruit).
However, I think we should try to stick to Red and the symbolism of the
tomato
cannot be denied. It has long been used as a response to bad implementation
and that is exactly what we
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, JC Dill wrote:
> Great idea! Can we count on Dan for tomato acquisition and for Owen for
> post-protest dispersal to a foodbank?
Having been a part of many fraternity pranks along this line, I might
remind some of a glitch with this line of thinking.
VeriSign employees rea
>> I would also suggest that we try to make contact with a second-harvest or
>> other organization that may be able to use the tomatoes afterwards.
Or just use your time and resources to do some good for
those who are less fortunate in the first place. Using
food of any ki
I will do my best to get the tomatos. How many do you think we will
need?
Dan
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> all
> those who approve
> of the wildcards would put their token-of-choice in another pile.
>
Might I suggest the "joker" out of a deck of playing cards ? ; )
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At 12:45 PM -0700 10/16/03, JC Dill wrote:
At 11:56 AM 10/16/2003, Chris Strandt wrote:
Maybe a "vote" at the end of the presentation would be better.
After Verisign has to say what they want, it would be interesting
to see what the participants think of starting Site Finder again.
Its not as p
> Ahem. Many of us are Star Trek experts, and it will take a LOT more
> than this to get people to wear a red shirt.
A red EFF t-shirt (as a sign of recent donation) would be a good choice :)
--vadim
At 11:56 AM 10/16/2003, Chris Strandt wrote:
Maybe a "vote" at the end of the presentation would be better.
After Verisign has to say what they want, it would be interesting to see
what the participants think of starting Site Finder again.
Its not as press worthy... but it lets Verisign have th
: >Agreed. I plan to wear a red shirt and bring a tomatoe. The tomato will
: >sit quietly on the table near me. It will not be used as a projectile
: >no matter how much Verisign tries to convince me it should. Really.
: >I will not throw the tomato at Verisign no matter how much they deserv
You have to give Verisign some props for having the balls to present at
NANOG...and those props should be in the form of not chasing them from the
room with angry threats and pitchforks.
Mark and the rest of the folks from Verisign, formerly NSI, formerly
Internic, etc, etc have long been CONTRI
If you are attending NANOG 29, please attend this session and wear a
red shirt.
Ahem. Many of us are Star Trek experts, and it will take a LOT more than
this to get people to wear a red shirt.
Huh? I'm somewhat familiar with Star Trek, and, I realize the red shirts
are usually the first to die
Ri
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:03:44PM -0400, Andy Dills wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Scott Bradner wrote:
> > > Dan and Owen, I nominate you two for the tomato acquisition and
> > > distribution committee.
> > lets not
> >
> > tomatoes != knowledge (nor are an indicator of same)
> Nope, they're a
At 12:00 PM 10/16/2003, Owen DeLong wrote:
Agreed. I plan to wear a red shirt and bring a tomatoe. The tomato will
sit quietly on the table near me. It will not be used as a projectile
no matter how much Verisign tries to convince me it should. Really.
I will not throw the tomato at Verisign no
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Scott Bradner wrote:
>
>
> > Dan and Owen, I nominate you two for the tomato acquisition and
> > distribution committee.
>
> lets not
>
> tomatoes != knowledge (nor are an indicator of same)
Nope, they're an indicator of distaste and disrespect.
I don't think anybody wants
Maybe a "vote" at the end of the presentation would be better.
After Verisign has to say what they want, it would be interesting to see
what the participants think of starting Site Finder again.
Its not as press worthy... but it lets Verisign have their say, and
gives the community a voice righ
I would also suggest that we try to make contact with a second-harvest or
other organization that may be able to use the tomatoes afterwards.
Owen
--On Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:36 -0700 "Wayne E. Bouchard"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just a brief statement that kinda goes without saying but
Agreed. I plan to wear a red shirt and bring a tomatoe. The tomato will
sit quietly on the table near me. It will not be used as a projectile
no matter how much Verisign tries to convince me it should. Really.
I will not throw the tomato at Verisign no matter how much they deserve it.
Wayne is
Dan and Owen, I nominate you two for the tomato acquisition and
distribution committee.
To recap: At NANOG 29 in Chicago, on Monday October 20th at 9:15 am
a session on "VeriSign's Wildcard Record: Effects and Responses"
will be held, with Mark Kosters and Matt Larson from VeriSign and
Suzan
> Dan and Owen, I nominate you two for the tomato acquisition and
> distribution committee.
lets not
tomatoes != knowledge (nor are an indicator of same)
Scot
Just a brief statement that kinda goes without saying but I'll say it
anyway.
Although I'm not going to be there personally, I do intend to watch
the netcast.
I would just ask (and I'm sure merit folks share this) that despite
the actions that have been taken by verisign and the conflicts etc,
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