Re: your mail

2004-03-14 Thread Eric Gauthier
This is a topic I get very soap-boxish about. I have too many problems with providers who don't understand the college student market. I can think of one university who requires students to login through a web portal before giving them a routable address. This is such a waste of time

Re: your mail

2003-02-05 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Lynn Bashaw wrote: Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile? Average is just a function of total and time, and time progresses linearly with time, so average x some $ figure

RE: your mail

2003-02-05 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Koepp, Karsten wrote: Volume usually totals in+out, whereas average does max(in,out) divided by time intervals. Well, not to be nit-picky, but that wouldn't strictly be averaging, then. To get back to the question at hand, another scheme that I'm seeing more

Re: your mail

2003-02-05 Thread alex
Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile? Sure. As long as your math is correct it does not matter how do you calculate your bill. Alex

Re: your mail

2002-12-18 Thread Eric Gauthier
My thoughts are Cogents primary customers are sites that are looking for very cheap bandwidth, which most likely is adult content. Therefore they would look more like a content provider than a transit provider. Cogent is making in roads at a lot of Universities who want, as we all know,

Re: your mail

2002-08-21 Thread Martin Hannigan
At 12:32 AM 8/21/2002 -0400, David Lesher wrote: Unnamed Administration sources reported that N. Richard Solis said: If you haven't worked in an environment where you had to turn in your cellphone and pager at the front desk, show a badge to a camera around every corner, and get

RE: your mail

2002-08-21 Thread N. Richard Solis
Who did you think held the cellphone and the pager? :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Lesher Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 12:32 AM To: nanog list Subject: Re: your mail Unnamed Administration sources reported that N

RE: Shared facilities (was Re: your mail)

2002-08-21 Thread N. Richard Solis
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sean Donelan Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Shared facilities (was Re: your mail) On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, David Lesher wrote: Unnamed Administration sources reported that N. Richard Solis said

Re: your mail

2002-08-21 Thread Pawlukiewicz Jane
Sounds like a nuclear power plant I used to work at. Except the nuke plants don't trust the marines to do the job. They hire and train their own security teams. I had to go through more screening to work there than anything I've gone through re security clearances and the government. The scary

Re: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Nathan Stratton
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Ali Jackson wrote: Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I can send a package over night to the IBX for less than what it costs to move it from the mailroom to my cage. Just curious Uh, yes. Equinix is a rip off in general. I got

Re: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Yes. Equinix security, while it looks very tough, is very easy to social engineer. Too much fluff, need more stuff. On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Nathan Stratton wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Ali Jackson wrote: Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I can send

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread N. Richard Solis
: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Stratton) writes: Uh, yes. Equinix is a rip off in general. I got kicked out of Chicago using the side door. I was sick of the stupid man trap crap and noticed they had a door that was propped

Re: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread David Diaz
There is no perfect location. Any common location has a certain level of insecurity. Im sure u could sneak in a squeeze bottle and spray equipment also. The point is, it is a relatively secure location, short of building your own facility or blding and manning it. Even many military

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Daniel Golding
Equinix has show considerable interest in catering to the carrier market, and has always been very customer service oriented. Their security is generally good, and their security managers take the sort of stuff you are talking about very seriously. I have no doubt that they would take some

Re: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:08:22PM -0400, N. Richard Solis wrote: I think that getting caught is a good indication that they take the security of the facility seriously. Which is clearly exhibited by them leaving a side door propped open, or not checking or securing this door

Re: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 02:07:49PM -0400, Nathan Stratton wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Ali Jackson wrote: Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I can send a package over night to the IBX for less than what it costs to move it from the mailroom to my

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Deepak Jain
Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I can send a package over night to the IBX for less than what it costs to move it from the mailroom to my cage. Just curious Uh, yes. Equinix is a rip off in general. I got kicked out of Chicago using the side

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread N. Richard Solis
. Richard Solis Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: your mail On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:08:22PM -0400, N. Richard Solis wrote: I think that getting caught is a good indication that they take the security of the facility seriously. Which is clearly exhibited by them leaving a side door

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Nathan Stratton
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, N. Richard Solis wrote: Leaving or forcing doors to be propped open generally triggers an alarm that prompts a visit from someone in security. It is entirely possible that someone who worked at the facility informed the security staff of what they were doing because

Re: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Scott Granados
Speakig of paix's and locations, I know the mfn filings have held up progress but I wondered and maybe others on this list wonder what the status of the paix nyiix interconnection might be? On 20 Aug 2002, Paul Vixie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Stratton) writes: Uh, yes. Equinix

Re: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Paul Vixie
Speakig of paix's and locations, I know the mfn filings have held up progress but I wondered and maybe others on this list wonder what the status of the paix nyiix interconnection might be? until mfn finishes selling paix, there will likely be no progress on this.

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread N. Richard Solis
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nathan Stratton Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:07 PM To: N. Richard Solis Cc: Majdi S. Abbas; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: your mail On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, N. Richard Solis wrote: Leaving or forcing doors to be propped

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Patrick
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, N. Richard Solis wrote: Then the appropriate person to talk to is the account manager. Catching a problem yourself doesn't do anyone any good if the management of the facility (or the company) isn't involved. That presumes there is a single account manager. With

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Nathan Stratton
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Deepak Jain wrote: I'm curious -- did they kick you out for the day, or terminate your contract and move you out? Basically they said they would ban me personally if I gave there security people a hard time about their security. I don't think they ever would terminate a

RE: your mail

2002-08-20 Thread Deepak Jain
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Deepak Jain wrote: I'm curious -- did they kick you out for the day, or terminate your contract and move you out? Basically they said they would ban me personally if I gave there security people a hard time about their security. I don't think they ever would

Re: Hovercraft for deliveries to the fifth floor loading dock (was Re: Your mail)

2002-08-20 Thread Jay Adelson
I am not an ex-employee of Equinix, so here's my 2 cents: When we built the IBXs, having spent a couple of years listening to you folks tell me what you want at the PAIX and elsewhere, I basically learned it was impossible to satisfy everyone. If you please one network engineer, you're going

Re: Hovercraft for deliveries to the fifth floor loading dock (was Re: Your mail)

2002-08-20 Thread Jay Adelson
Patrick, Yes, really! That's what the ERC is for. I guess the confusion is outside your email thread, which indicates as such... But yes, the single point is supposed to be the ERC. Feel free to contact me with specifics... -Jay On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 05:29:43PM -0700, Patrick wrote:

Shared facilities (was Re: your mail)

2002-08-20 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, David Lesher wrote: Unnamed Administration sources reported that N. Richard Solis said: If you haven't worked in an environment where you had to turn in your cellphone and pager at the front desk, show a badge to a camera around every corner, and get your office keys

Re: your mail

2002-08-12 Thread JC Dill
All of the evidence I could gather indicate that it did, in fact, happen in at least some form. At the very least, other employees (whom I have know for years) said that he was gone, as of the date in question. They were not told the cause (as would be expected in most companies). When

Re: your mail

2002-08-09 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote: Do people really almost get fired for what they write here? Sometimes, it's not almost. Just 3 months ago: http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00208.html Which was followed

Re: your mail

2002-08-09 Thread Pawlukiewicz Jane
Hi Brian, I know other people have posted about this, re almost getting fired. Many companies now are adopting new rules regarding employee's posting on listserves. The policy here is that employees must get another address through aol or yahoo or some other free mailserve if they want to

Re: your mail

2002-08-09 Thread Joel Baker
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 08:22:58AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote: Do people really almost get fired for what they write here? Sometimes, it's not almost. Just 3 months ago:

Re: your mail

2002-08-09 Thread Alif The Terrible
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Pawlukiewicz Jane wrote: Hi Brian, I know other people have posted about this, re almost getting fired. Many companies now are adopting new rules regarding employee's posting on listserves. The policy here is that employees must get another address through aol or

Re: your mail

2002-08-09 Thread Martin Hannigan
Don't forget general kookery where you make a customer mad, a usenet poster, or some other irrational personality and they contact your employer to detail everything they know about you like posting to rec.cannabis, soc.motss, etc. It's interferring in a business relationship, but most of 'em

Re: your mail

2002-08-09 Thread blitz
Absolutely..the corporate culture are whores, and not to be trusted...protect yourselves, use a throw-away email addy.. At 17:16 8/9/02 -0400, you wrote: Don't forget general kookery where you make a customer mad, a usenet poster, or some other irrational personality and they contact your

Re: your mail

2002-08-09 Thread mike harrison
Many companies now are adopting new rules regarding employee's posting on listserves. The policy here is that employees must get another address through aol or yahoo or some other free mailserve if they want There's only 6 of us.. but thanks to this discussion, we have implemented a company

Re: your mail

2002-08-08 Thread Scott Granados
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here? I'd think there would be more constructive things to do by management than read nanog for questionable posts. If I were managing someone and they posted their feeling on a subject and clearly said it was their own who am I to have