This is a topic I get very soap-boxish about. I have too many problems
with providers who don't understand the college student market. I can
think of one university who requires students to login through a web
portal before giving them a routable address. This is such a waste of
time
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Lynn Bashaw wrote:
Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average
utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile?
Average is just a function of total and time, and time progresses linearly
with time, so average x some $ figure
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Koepp, Karsten wrote:
Volume usually totals in+out, whereas average does max(in,out)
divided by time intervals.
Well, not to be nit-picky, but that wouldn't strictly be averaging, then.
To get back to the question at hand, another scheme that I'm seeing more
Does anyone on the list know of any ISPs that bill based on average
utilization, rather than some variation of 95th percentile?
Sure. As long as your math is correct it does not matter how do you
calculate your bill.
Alex
My thoughts are Cogents primary customers are sites that are looking for
very cheap bandwidth, which most likely is adult content. Therefore they
would look more like a content provider than a transit provider.
Cogent is making in roads at a lot of Universities who want, as we all
know,
At 12:32 AM 8/21/2002 -0400, David Lesher wrote:
Unnamed Administration sources reported that N. Richard Solis said:
If you haven't worked in an environment where you had to turn in your
cellphone and pager at the front desk, show a badge to a camera around
every
corner, and get
Who did you think held the cellphone and the pager? :-)
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On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, David Lesher wrote:
Unnamed Administration sources reported that N. Richard Solis said
Sounds like a nuclear power plant I used to work at. Except the nuke
plants don't trust the marines to do the job. They hire and train their
own security teams.
I had to go through more screening to work there than anything I've gone
through re security clearances and the government. The scary
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Ali Jackson wrote:
Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I
can send a package over night to the IBX for less than what it costs to
move it from the mailroom to my cage. Just curious
Uh, yes. Equinix is a rip off in general. I got
Yes.
Equinix security, while it looks very tough, is very easy to social
engineer.
Too much fluff, need more stuff.
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Ali Jackson wrote:
Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I
can send
: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: your mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Stratton) writes:
Uh, yes. Equinix is a rip off in general. I got kicked out of Chicago
using the side door. I was sick of the stupid man trap crap and noticed
they had a door that was propped
There is no perfect location. Any common location has a certain
level of insecurity. Im sure u could sneak in a squeeze bottle and
spray equipment also. The point is, it is a relatively secure
location, short of building your own facility or blding and manning
it.
Even many military
Equinix has show considerable interest in catering to the carrier market,
and has always been very customer service oriented. Their security is
generally good, and their security managers take the sort of stuff you are
talking about very seriously. I have no doubt that they would take some
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:08:22PM -0400, N. Richard Solis wrote:
I think that getting caught is a good indication that they take the security
of the facility seriously.
Which is clearly exhibited by them leaving a side door propped
open, or not checking or securing this door
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 02:07:49PM -0400, Nathan Stratton wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Ali Jackson wrote:
Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I
can send a package over night to the IBX for less than what it costs to
move it from the mailroom to my
Does any one else out there think smart hands at Equinix is a rip off? I
can send a package over night to the IBX for less than what it costs to
move it from the mailroom to my cage. Just curious
Uh, yes. Equinix is a rip off in general. I got kicked out of Chicago
using the side
. Richard Solis
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: your mail
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 03:08:22PM -0400, N. Richard Solis wrote:
I think that getting caught is a good indication that they take the
security
of the facility seriously.
Which is clearly exhibited by them leaving a side door
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, N. Richard Solis wrote:
Leaving or forcing doors to be propped open generally triggers an alarm that
prompts a visit from someone in security. It is entirely possible that
someone who worked at the facility informed the security staff of what they
were doing because
Speakig of paix's and locations, I know the mfn filings have held up
progress but I wondered and maybe others on this list wonder what the
status of the paix nyiix interconnection might be?
On 20 Aug 2002, Paul
Vixie wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Stratton) writes:
Uh, yes. Equinix
Speakig of paix's and locations, I know the mfn filings have held up
progress but I wondered and maybe others on this list wonder what the
status of the paix nyiix interconnection might be?
until mfn finishes selling paix, there will likely be no progress on this.
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Nathan Stratton
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:07 PM
To: N. Richard Solis
Cc: Majdi S. Abbas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: your mail
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, N. Richard Solis wrote:
Leaving or forcing doors to be propped
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, N. Richard Solis wrote:
Then the appropriate person to talk to is the account manager. Catching a
problem yourself doesn't do anyone any good if the management of the
facility (or the company) isn't involved.
That presumes there is a single account manager.
With
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Deepak Jain wrote:
I'm curious -- did they kick you out for the day, or terminate your contract
and move you out?
Basically they said they would ban me personally if I gave there security
people a hard time about their security. I don't think they ever would
terminate a
On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Deepak Jain wrote:
I'm curious -- did they kick you out for the day, or terminate
your contract
and move you out?
Basically they said they would ban me personally if I gave there security
people a hard time about their security. I don't think they ever would
I am not an ex-employee of Equinix, so here's my 2 cents:
When we built the IBXs, having spent a couple of years listening to
you folks tell me what you want at the PAIX and elsewhere, I basically
learned it was impossible to satisfy everyone. If you please one network
engineer, you're going
Patrick,
Yes, really! That's what the ERC is for. I guess the confusion is outside
your email thread, which indicates as such... But yes, the single point is
supposed to be the ERC.
Feel free to contact me with specifics...
-Jay
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 05:29:43PM -0700, Patrick wrote:
On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, David Lesher wrote:
Unnamed Administration sources reported that N. Richard Solis said:
If you haven't worked in an environment where you had to turn in your
cellphone and pager at the front desk, show a badge to a camera around every
corner, and get your office keys
All of the evidence I could gather indicate that it did, in fact, happen
in at least some form. At the very least, other employees (whom I have
know for years) said that he was gone, as of the date in question. They
were not told the cause (as would be expected in most companies).
When
Once upon a time, JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote:
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here?
Sometimes, it's not almost. Just 3 months ago:
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2002-05/msg00208.html
Which was followed
Hi Brian,
I know other people have posted about this, re almost getting fired.
Many companies now are adopting new rules regarding employee's posting
on listserves. The policy here is that employees must get another
address through aol or yahoo or some other free mailserve if they want
to
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 08:22:58AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, JC Dill [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On 02:42 PM 8/8/02, Scott Granados wrote:
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here?
Sometimes, it's not almost. Just 3 months ago:
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Pawlukiewicz Jane wrote:
Hi Brian,
I know other people have posted about this, re almost getting fired.
Many companies now are adopting new rules regarding employee's posting
on listserves. The policy here is that employees must get another
address through aol or
Don't forget general kookery where you make a customer mad, a
usenet poster, or some other irrational personality and they
contact your employer to detail everything they know about
you like posting to rec.cannabis, soc.motss, etc. It's
interferring in a business relationship, but most of 'em
Absolutely..the corporate culture are whores, and not to be
trusted...protect yourselves, use a throw-away email addy..
At 17:16 8/9/02 -0400, you wrote:
Don't forget general kookery where you make a customer mad, a
usenet poster, or some other irrational personality and they
contact your
Many companies now are adopting new rules regarding employee's posting
on listserves. The policy here is that employees must get another
address through aol or yahoo or some other free mailserve if they want
There's only 6 of us.. but thanks to this discussion, we have implemented
a company
Do people really almost get fired for what they write here? I'd think
there would be more constructive things to do by management than read
nanog for questionable posts. If I were managing someone and they
posted their feeling on a subject and clearly said it was their own who
am I to have
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