Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Chris Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:16:53 CDT, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I would certainly say there's an elitism, or perhaps a higher level of credibility given to a .com or .net site, due to the fact that they've probably existed for quite a bit longer than a .biz or

Re: Verisign is selling Netsol [was Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 9:19 AM -0700 10/16/03, Owen DeLong wrote: The back end DNS is the registry service. What you are saying they are doing is selling the REGISTRAR business and keeping the REGISTRY. Or did I miss something? No, that's correct. I just can't keep them straight in my fingers (and neither can Veris

RE: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Jeff Shultz
ut there. >> Does it make sense to pay Verislime money to fund sitefinder and our >> headaches? >> >> To change this: what else can we do to prevent this? Does the last BIND >> version truly break sitefinder? >> >> >> Later, >> Jim >> >&

Re: Verisign is selling Netsol [was Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Owen DeLong
The back end DNS is the registry service. What you are saying they are doing is selling the REGISTRAR business and keeping the REGISTRY. Or did I miss something? Owen --On Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:46 AM -0400 Kee Hinckley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 3:18 PM +0100 10/16/03, [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 10:16:53 CDT, Andrew D Kirch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I would certainly say there's an elitism, or perhaps a higher level of > credibility given to a .com or .net site, due to the fact that they've probably > existed for quite a bit longer than a .biz or .info. Most of my s

RE: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Owen DeLong
ECTED] ->Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:24 AM ->To: nanog list ->Subject: Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service -> -> -> ->Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain ->registrations those of us ->on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain registrations those of us > on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one thing, taking We've been moving all our domains to OpenSRS for a year, but doing it as they come up for renewal.

Re: Verisign is selling Netsol [was Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Bruce Campbell
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Kee Hinckley wrote: > This point just became moot. > Versign is selling the registry business. Network Solutions is being > spun off. They retain the back end DNS. They're selling the _registrar_ business off. They retain the _registry_ and the associated stuff to the bac

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Andrew D Kirch
I would certainly say there's an elitism, or perhaps a higher level of credibility given to a .com or .net site, due to the fact that they've probably existed for quite a bit longer than a .biz or .info. Although looking at that list I might note that I probably would include .us with .com and

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Henk Uijterwaal (RIPE-NCC)
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In this day and age, people don't guess URLs anymore by sticking .com at > the end of a word so there is no longer any advantage to using a .com > domain name over a .biz or .info or .us. FWIW, I still do as it is faster than google. I bet that tha

Verisign is selling Netsol [was Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service]

2003-10-16 Thread Kee Hinckley
At 3:18 PM +0100 10/16/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain registrations those of us on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one thing, taking all of our business elsewhere might also be effective at getting a point across (though it might

Verisign to spin off NetSol?! WAS Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread up
I don't know if this is a related move or not, but I just received an email from Verisign that they are selling NetSol. A snippet: Dear Valued Network Solutions(R) Customer, Today VeriSign, Inc. announced that it has entered into a definitive agreement to sell Network Solutions to a new entity

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Ray Bellis
> Verisign obviously doesn't want the Registrar > business, or they would have found out a way > to combine all those accounts when we asked. You do know they just this morning announced that they're selling the Registrar business, don't you? Ray -- Ray Bellis, MA(Oxon) - Technical Director co

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Michael . Dillon
>Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain registrations those of us >on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one thing, taking >all of our business elsewhere might also be effective at getting a point >across (though it might also backfire - pushing Verisign to be even more

RE: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Kevin Bednar
)TELLURIAN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Allen Simpson Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:45 AM To: nanog list Subject: Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Just out of curiousity, I

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread William Allen Simpson
Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain registrations those of us > on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one thing, taking > all of our business elsewhere might also be effective at getting a point > across (though it might also backfire - push

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Mike Lewinski
Miles Fidelman wrote: Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain registrations those of us on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one thing, taking all of our business elsewhere might also be effective at getting a point across (though it might also backfire - pushing Verisign

RE: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread McBurnett, Jim
nal Message- ->From: Miles Fidelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:24 AM ->To: nanog list ->Subject: Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service -> -> -> ->Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain ->registrations those of us -

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Leo Bicknell
What I think will be interesting is who has the bind patch this time around. The first time many companies didn't deploy the bind patch for reasons ranging from taking a few days to study the impact to not being able to deploy new software on their nameservers that quickly to not being able to ge

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread Miles Fidelman
Just out of curiousity, I wonder how many domain registrations those of us on nanog represent? Contract sanctions from ICANN are one thing, taking all of our business elsewhere might also be effective at getting a point across (though it might also backfire - pushing Verisign to be even more agre

more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

2003-10-16 Thread David Lesher
Err.. at least in the meeting, the VeriSlime carefully evaded giving any quantifiable answer as to warning time. I have no idea what they spun to the press afterwards. What I observed was they started out cocky...as the meeting went on and the questioning got pointed, they got snippy and defensiv