Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sun, 28 Dec 2008, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 17:17, Blake Pfankuch wrote: It seems highly unlikely that a train derailment yesterday caused major network issues today. Have you ever seen cleanup efforts after a major accident. Cleanup usually involves more backhoes, a

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 17:17, Blake Pfankuch wrote: > It seems highly unlikely that a train derailment yesterday caused major > network issues today. Have you ever seen cleanup efforts after a major accident. Cleanup usually involves more backhoes, and other major equipment, than a normal wel

RE: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Blake Pfankuch
I have heard this story several times. The train derailment was yesterday in New York unless it has not made it to news.google.com on a search for train derail. Issues did not start until 1030 MST. It seems highly unlikely that a train derailment yesterday caused major network issues today.

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Alex H. Ryu
It seems that there was fiber cut because of train derailment around NY area. Alex Blake Pfankuch wrote: > Any word on the actual cause of the issue? > > From: Derek Bodner [mailto:subscribedli...@derekbodner.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:53 AM > To: Blake Pfankuch > Cc: Jon Wolberg

Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support

2008-12-28 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Skywing wrote: > Of course, in much of the US, "vote with your feet" on residential ISP > service might as well be as realistic advice as "pack up and move to a > different city". [Perhaps not in the OP's case, though, if they are > fortunate. Which it seems like they might be.] It isn't dif

RE: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support

2008-12-28 Thread Skywing
Of course, in much of the US, "vote with your feet" on residential ISP service might as well be as realistic advice as "pack up and move to a different city". [Perhaps not in the OP's case, though, if they are fortunate. Which it seems like they might be.] - S -Original Message- From

Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support

2008-12-28 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Matthew Black wrote: > On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:53:18 + > Martin List-Petersen wrote: >> >> The problem is, and this was stated by the original poster, that the >> lads off-shore he deals with have no clue and simply stick to the >> script. No intention of looking what the real problem is. And

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread virendra rode
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 IMHO, this is exactly what service providers love to hear in order for them not to be forth coming. regards, /virendra Matthew Petach wrote: > On 12/28/08, Blake Pfankuch wrote: >> Any word on the actual cause of the issue? > > Given the lurking

RE: IPv6: IS-IS or OSPFv3

2008-12-28 Thread TJ
>>> In practice, we realized that enabling IS-ISv6 on interfaces >>> already running IS-ISv4 was problematic without MT pre- >>> configured. >>> Those links surely lost IS-IS adjacency which threatened stability >>> of the network. >> Yup, that is the rub: if rolling out your v6 routing impacts you

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread marco
Steven King wrote: > We saw our bandwidth drop on our Level3 OC-48 to about half of what we > were doing. We had to stop announcing our subnets to Level3 to get > traffic to fail over properly throughout the world. We have a ticket > open with Level3's NOC but have not received word on what happene

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Steven King
We saw our bandwidth drop on our Level3 OC-48 to about half of what we were doing. We had to stop announcing our subnets to Level3 to get traffic to fail over properly throughout the world. We have a ticket open with Level3's NOC but have not received word on what happened or when to expect a resol

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Kevin Loch
marco wrote: From what I heard, it was some some malfunction with a router in Washington D.C. which terminated a 100GB bundle from Paris. It was carring about 50GB at the time of the failure. Not sure why routes within the US would be effected. We connect to level3 in Ashburn/DC and saw traf

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Matthew Petach
On 12/28/08, Blake Pfankuch wrote: > Any word on the actual cause of the issue? Given the lurking presence of wannabe press vultures here, I doubt you'll see anything forthcoming from the technical folks about what actually happened. This is not to say that people haven't been informed of the is

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread marco
Blake Pfankuch wrote: > Any word on the actual cause of the issue? > > From: Derek Bodner [mailto:subscribedli...@derekbodner.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:53 AM > To: Blake Pfankuch > Cc: Jon Wolberg; Jason Cheslock; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Level 3 issues > > Looks like most pro

Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support

2008-12-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
Matthew Black wrote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:53:18 + Martin List-Petersen wrote: The problem is, and this was stated by the original poster, that the lads off-shore he deals with have no clue and simply stick to the script. No intention of looking what the real problem is. And that problem

RE: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Any word on the actual cause of the issue? From: Derek Bodner [mailto:subscribedli...@derekbodner.com] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:53 AM To: Blake Pfankuch Cc: Jon Wolberg; Jason Cheslock; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Level 3 issues Looks like most providers here in the east coast are rout

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Derek Bodner
Looks like most providers here in the east coast are routing through level3 again, and I'm not seeing any packet loss or latency anymore. On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Blake Pfankuch wrote: > Seems to be normalizing here in Colorado as well, however still having > occasional packet loss to NY.

Re: What to do when your ISP off-shores tech support

2008-12-28 Thread Matthew Black
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 11:53:18 + Martin List-Petersen wrote: The problem is, and this was stated by the original poster, that the lads off-shore he deals with have no clue and simply stick to the script. No intention of looking what the real problem is. And that problem lies not in the call

RE: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Seems to be normalizing here in Colorado as well, however still having occasional packet loss to NY. -Original Message- From: Jon Wolberg [mailto:j...@defenderhosting.com] Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 11:40 AM To: Jason Cheslock Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Level 3 issues Confirme

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Jon Wolberg
Confirmed here as well. Jon - Original Message - From: "Jason Cheslock" To: "marco" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 1:35:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: Level 3 issues According to L3, this issue should be fixed and we should start seeing > the tr

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Johan Denoyer
2008/12/28 marco > Paul wrote: > > Same issue here from Chicago and Montreal. Seems anything routing > > through Washington.Level3 is going to null. The rest of the level3 > > network seems to be ok. > > 6 ae-32-52.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.62) 0.976 ms 10.344 > > ms 0.866 ms > > 7

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Jason Cheslock
According to L3, this issue should be fixed and we should start seeing > the traffic normalizing. > Can anyone confirm? Here in Richmond Virginia, everything seems to be back to normal now. Traffic coming from my Comcast connection can get through L3 now. 7 11 ms 13 ms 11 ms te-0-3-0-0-cr01.

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread marco
Paul wrote: > Same issue here from Chicago and Montreal. Seems anything routing > through Washington.Level3 is going to null. The rest of the level3 > network seems to be ok. > 6 ae-32-52.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.62) 0.976 ms 10.344 > ms 0.866 ms > 7 ae-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Thomas Beecher
I'm showing significant latency and loss over my L3 stuff. interetpulse.net showing the same thing too, seems to be a substantial problem. Pierre-Henri wrote: marco a écrit : is anyone having issues with Level3? hi, theplanet.com and many websites (cnn.com ; amazon.com ; ... ) have not

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread marco
Blake Pfankuch wrote: > Ive got connection issues from Colorado to new York on level3 that have been > restored, but still nothing from Chicago to Colorado, and way too many other > places to list. Anyone have a ticket number with level3? > > -Original Message- > From: Pierre-Henri [mail

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Paul
Same issue here from Chicago and Montreal. Seems anything routing through Washington.Level3 is going to null. The rest of the level3 network seems to be ok. 6 ae-32-52.ebr2.Chicago1.Level3.net (4.68.101.62) 0.976 ms 10.344 ms 0.866 ms 7 ae-5.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.140.194) 1.245 ms

RE: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Ive got connection issues from Colorado to new York on level3 that have been restored, but still nothing from Chicago to Colorado, and way too many other places to list. Anyone have a ticket number with level3? -Original Message- From: Pierre-Henri [mailto:phac...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunda

RE: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Paul Stewart
Ahh.. yes seeing that now here from Toronto ON - didn't see this issue when the original poster sent the first message... it's now happening here too... Shutting down their session until something looks "better" -Original Message- From: Pierre-Henri [mailto:phac...@gmail.com] Sent: Decem

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Pierre-Henri
marco a écrit : is anyone having issues with Level3? hi, theplanet.com and many websites (cnn.com ; amazon.com ; ... ) have not been accessible from France (Orange, home connection) for about 30 minutes. Don't know if there is a link with your question, but it's strange... Pierre-Henri

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Pierre-Henri
marco a écrit : is anyone having issues with Level3? hi, theplanet.com and many websites (cnn.com ; amazon.com ; ... ) have not been accessible from France (Orange, home connection) for about 30 minutes. Don't know if there is a link with your question, but . Pierre-Henri

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread marco
jajog...@gmail.com wrote: > Yes sir. > > >> -Original Message- >> From: marco [mailto:ma...@zero11.com] >> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 12:59 PM >> To: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Level 3 issues >> >> is anyone having issues with Level3? >> > > do you have any more details?

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Matt Kelly
Yes. We just experienced an outage in Philadelphia. We shut down the circuit pending further investigation. On Dec 28, 2008, at 12:58 PM, marco wrote: is anyone having issues with Level3?

Re: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread David Coulson
http://www.internetpulse.net/ (if you can get to it). Does not look pretty for L3. I can't get to most web sites if I go via Level3 (Cleveland, OH). Ping/traceroute look good though. marco wrote: is anyone having issues with Level3?

RE: Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread Paul Stewart
What country, location, where you fed from?? -Original Message- From: marco [mailto:ma...@zero11.com] Sent: December 28, 2008 12:59 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Level 3 issues is anyone having issues with Level3?

Level 3 issues

2008-12-28 Thread marco
is anyone having issues with Level3?

Re: IPv6: IS-IS or OSPFv3

2008-12-28 Thread Randy Bush
In practice, we realized that enabling IS-ISv6 on interfaces already running IS-ISv4 was problematic without MT pre- configured. Those links surely lost IS-IS adjacency which threatened stability of the network. Yup, that is the rub: if rolling out your v6 routing impacts your v4 routing you are

RE: IPv6: IS-IS or OSPFv3

2008-12-28 Thread TJ
>> as one who has been burned when topologies are not congruent, i gotta >> ask. if i do not anticipate v4 and v6 having different topologies, >> and all my devices are dual-capable, would you still recommend mt for >> other than future-proofing? > >In practice, we realized that enabling IS-ISv6 o

RE: IPv6: IS-IS or OSPFv3

2008-12-28 Thread TJ
>>> ... not to mention that fact that IS-IS is, IMHO, a much nicer IGP to work with. >> >> WRT that last sentence, that is an almost religious debate I was trying to >> avoid starting ... :) >> >Well IMHO it's a very important point to consider. This is a great chance to switch your IGP, if you've

100MB connectivity in Detroit area

2008-12-28 Thread John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
Wondering about the availability of 100mb connectivity in Macomb county (Clinton Twp) Michigan. Please reply off-list.