Re: PSA: change your fedex.com account logins

2019-05-30 Thread Dan Hollis
Phishing scheme didn't happen. fedex has had a number of major compromises so it's not a stretch that their user database was stolen and sold to spammers. -Dan On Thu, 30 May 2019, Matt Hoppes wrote: Possibly. The other possibility I can think of is that you succumbed to a phishing scheme

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Scott Weeks
--- valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: From: "Valdis Klētnieks" On Thu, 30 May 2019 16:07:53 -0700, "Scott Weeks" said: > Having been on quite a few networks in my career, > (eyeball/enterprise) I'd say many struggle with > having a "single and clearly defined routing policy" Which part do they

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Mel Beckman
No, that's not the situation being discussed. As I've pointed out, a multi homed AS without an IGP connecting all prefixes is non-compliant with the BGP definition of an AS. Your Tokyo/DC example is additionally non-compliant because it doesn't have a single routing policy. It has two policies.

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:10:42 -, Mel Beckman said: > What are you talking about? Do you use multi homed BGP? If so, I’d expect > you > to know that an organization with multiple sites having their own Internet > still uses a single AS. They have IGP paths to route traffic between sites >

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 30 May 2019 16:07:53 -0700, "Scott Weeks" said: > Having been on quite a few networks in my career, > (eyeball/enterprise) I'd say many struggle with > having a "single and clearly defined routing policy" Which part do they find problematic, the "single" part, or the "clearly defined"

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Mel Beckman
"Citation needed". :-) How is it clear that the vast majority are following this? Uh, because the Internet works? Think about it. If an AS advertises prefixes that can’t be reached through all of its border routers, those prefixes would lose packets. But I don’t need to provide a citation.

Paging voip.ms management

2019-05-30 Thread Eric Kuhnke
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Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Scott Weeks
--- bell...@nsc.liu.se wrote: From: Thomas Bellman ... prefixes with a "single and clearly defined routing policy" -- Having been on quite a few networks in my career, (eyeball/enterprise) I'd say many struggle with having a "single and clearly

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Thomas Bellman
On 2019-05-30 20:00 +, Mel Beckman wrote: > I’m sure we can find corner cases, but it’s clear that the vast ^ > majority of BGP users are following the standard. "Citation needed". :-) How is it clear that the vast majority are following

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Robert Blayzor
On 5/30/19 1:48 PM, William Herrin wrote: > 1. What happens to the packets when the /24 gets filtered from one > source (in favor of an aggregate) but not from the other?  > > 2. In exchange for this liability, did you gain any capacity in your router? It was my understanding that the argument

Re: PSA: change your fedex.com account logins

2019-05-30 Thread Matt Hoppes
Possibly. The other possibility I can think of is that you succumbed to a phishing scheme where are you entered the login information for your Fed ex account. > On May 30, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Dan Hollis wrote: > > I received a credit card scam addressed to my one-off unique address >

Re: Flexible OTN / fractional 100GbE

2019-05-30 Thread Brandon Martin
On 05/30/2019 03:40, Jérôme Nicolle wrote: What I have in mind is actually to combine line-rate ODUs with a static mapping and pipe the uncommitted capacity to a packet-switch. Statically commited services will be muxponded in fastpath, hence no jitter and less latency, while the fractionnal

PSA: change your fedex.com account logins

2019-05-30 Thread Dan Hollis
I received a credit card scam addressed to my one-off unique address registered to fedex.com. So it seems fedex.com user database has been compromised. Change your logins asap. -Dan

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Mel Beckman
Yes, my original quote wasn’t exactly word-for-word from the standard, but it was semantically identical. I’m sure we can find corner cases, but it’s clear that the vast majority of BGP users are following the standard. Anycast isn’t a violation of the standards because it’s defined in BGP as

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread William Herrin
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:58 AM Mel Beckman wrote: > > Come on now. The definition of an autonomous system is well established in RFC1930, which is still Best Current Practice: > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1930#section-3 Your quote wasn't from the RFC. Sorry, my google fu is only good

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Matt Corallo
Required or not, I've seen a number of networks doing this. At some point "single global ASN" became a marketable pitch and folks realized they don't actually have to have a single Network to get it. Matt (Oops +nanog, sorry Mel + William) > On May 30, 2019, at 13:10, Mel Beckman wrote: > >

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Thu, 30 May 2019 10:42:17 -0700, William Herrin said: > Heck, most networking courses still teach class A, B and C... definitions > which were explicitly invalidated a quarter of a century ago. If you had asked me back in 1993 if I was going to be retired before class A/B/C was gone from

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Mel Beckman
Bill, Come on now. The definition of an autonomous system is well established in RFC1930, which is still Best Current Practice: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1930#section-3 An AS is a connected group of one or more IP prefixes run by one or more network operators which has a SINGLE and

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:43 AM Robert Blayzor wrote: > On 5/30/19 12:54 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > It's permissible to announce to your transits with a private AS which > > they remove before passing the announcement to the wider Internet. As a > > result, the announcement from each provider

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Robert Blayzor
On 5/30/19 12:54 PM, William Herrin wrote: > It's permissible to announce to your transits with a private AS which > they remove before passing the announcement to the wider Internet. As a > result, the announcement from each provider will have that provider's > origin AS when you see it even

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread William Herrin
> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 10:11 AM Mel Beckman wrote: > > Are your sure about your Error #2, where you say "Prefixes from the same AS are not required to have direct connectivity to each other and many do not."? > > > > From BGP definitions: > > > > The AS represents a connected group of one or

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey William, > Error #1: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6996 section 4. > > It's permissible to announce to your transits with a private AS which they > remove before passing the announcement to the wider Internet. As a result, > the announcement from each provider will have that provider's

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Mel Beckman
Bill, Are your sure about your Error #2, where you say "Prefixes from the same AS are not required to have direct connectivity to each other and many do not."? From BGP definitions: The AS represents a connected group of one or more blocks of IP addresses, called IP prefixes, that have been

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 8:30 AM Robert Blayzor wrote: > On 5/24/19 2:22 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > Get it? I announce the /24 via both so that you can reach me when there > > is a problem with one or the other. If you drop the /24, you break the > > Internet when my connection to CenturyLink

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Robert Blayzor
On 5/24/19 2:22 PM, William Herrin wrote: > Get it? I announce the /24 via both so that you can reach me when there > is a problem with one or the other. If you drop the /24, you break the > Internet when my connection to CenturyLink is inoperable. Good job! It would be dropped only if the

Re: BGP prefix filter list

2019-05-30 Thread Robert Blayzor
On 5/15/19 2:52 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > You can't do uRPF if you're not taking full routes. > > You also have a more limited set of information for analytics if you > don't have full routes. Or instead of uRPF (loose) on transit links, just take a BOGON feed? -- inoc.net!rblayzor XMPP:

RE: Mexico

2019-05-30 Thread Naslund, Steve
You might want to check with a company called Transtelco. They are an alternate fiber provider (outside of Telmex). Steven Naslund Chicago IL From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mehmet Akcin Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 9:20 AM To: nanog Subject: Mexico Hi there I am looking for dark fibre in several

Re: VPN / IPSEC Management

2019-05-30 Thread Mauricio Rodriguez
Take a look at Tufin. They’ve been in the firewall configurations management business for a long time and may have something to suit your needs. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 01:18 Chris Knipe wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Quick question... In orgs using frequent and large amounts of IPSec, what > are you

Mexico

2019-05-30 Thread Mehmet Akcin
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Re: Flexible OTN / fractional 100GbE

2019-05-30 Thread Jérôme Nicolle
Brandon, Le 30/05/2019 à 03:46, Brandon Martin a écrit : The only way I know to do this is to packet switch, as either Ethernet or GFP-F OTN traffic, the subscriber data onto a FlexODU at the desired subscriber rate within the OTU4.  Other traffic could then be placed within the same OTU4