Re: [Nanog-futures] default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-21 Thread Donald Stahl
And the MLC didn't bother responding to either (until this). And probably won't respond further. Of course, my colleagues can say what they want, but I don't see any reason why someone can't ask for clue help. If that's the case then might I sugggest changing the pages that discuss what is,

Re: [Nanog-futures] default routes question or any way to do the rebundant

2008-03-20 Thread Donald Stahl
Are you seriously going to sit there and claim that someone asking about how to set up 2 default routes on a FreeBSD box is operationally or technically relevant to the NANOG community at large? You honestly, truly believe that how do I add two default routes to FreeBSD is a relevant question

Re: Security gain from NAT

2007-06-04 Thread Donald Stahl
Also, it is good to control the Internet addressable devices on your network by putting them behind a NAT device. That way you have less devices to concern yourself about that are directly addressable when they most likely need not be. You can argue that you can do the same with a firewall

Re: Security gain from NAT

2007-06-04 Thread Donald Stahl
But NAT *requires* stateful inspection; No, NAT does not require this. In the context of this discussion it does. Port NAT mapping one IP to many does, but there are other kinds of NAT. This is exactly the NAT that is being spoken of though. this lack of precision can lead to nasty

Re: Cool IPv6 Stuff

2007-06-04 Thread Donald Stahl
Won't stateful firewalls have similar issues? Ie, if you craft a stateful firewall to allow an office to have real IPv6 addresses but not to allow arbitrary connections in/out (ie, the stateful bit), won't said stateful require protocol tracking modules with similar (but not -as-) complexity to

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Donald Stahl
Not speaking directly for my employer (in any official capacity that is), but it's is *not* as easy as as just IPv6 enabling our network, enabling ipv6 on the servers, and putting up ipv6.yahoo.com. Currently, the biggest roadblock we have is loadbalancer support (or, more specificly,

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Donald Stahl
Actually, for me 100% feature parity (for stuff we use per vip) is a day-1 requirement. That's obviously your choice. I don't know the first thing about your application/services/systems but in my case my load balancer has nothing to do with my application/services- and I would be frightened

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-06-03 Thread Donald Stahl
If I read the thread so far correctly, Igor can't enable a single server with v6, because the instant he updates the DNS so an MX for his domain references a , that will become the preferred target for his domain from the entire IPv6 world, and he's gonna need a load balancer from Day 0.

Re: dual-stack [was: NANOG 40 agenda posted]

2007-05-30 Thread Donald Stahl
I guess we have different definitions for most significant backbones. Unless you mean they have a dual-stack router running _somewhere_, say, for instance, at a single IX or a lab LAN or something. Which is not particularly useful if we are talking about a significant backbone. Rather than

Re: IPv6 Advertisements

2007-05-29 Thread Donald Stahl
vixie had a fun discussion about anycast and dns... something about him being sad/sorry about making everyone have to carry a /24 for f-root everywhere. Whether it's a /24 for f-root or a /20 doesn't really make a difference- it's a routing table entry either way- and why waste addresses. I

Re: IPv6 Advertisements

2007-05-29 Thread Donald Stahl
RIPE may only give out /32's but ARIN gives out /48's so there wouldn't be any deaggregation in that case. The RIPE NCC assign /48s from 2001:0678::/29 according to ripe-404: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-404.html Yeah I missed that. This matches ARIN's policy for critical

Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted

2007-05-29 Thread Donald Stahl
but ipv6 is more secure, yes? :) (no it is not) Does the relative security of IVp4 and IPv6 *really* matter on the same Internet that has Vint Cerf's 140 million pwned machines on it? was the :) not enough: I'm joking ?? Just askin', ya know? some people do think that it does... they

IPv6 Deployment (Was: Re: NANOG 40 agenda posted)

2007-05-29 Thread Donald Stahl
We do have dual stack in all our customer sites, and at the time being didn't got complains or support calls that may be considered due to the . So far everyone who has contacted me has generally reported a positive experience with their transitions. The biggest complaints so far have

Re: IPv6 Advertisements

2007-05-29 Thread Donald Stahl
This assumes a single machine scanning, not a botnet of 1000 or even the 1.5m the dutch gov't collected 2 yrs ago. Again, a sane discussion is in order. Scanning isn't AS EASY, but it certainly is still feasible, With 1.5 million hosts it will only take 3500 years... for a _single_ /64! I'm