Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Berry Mobley
Hello, Do any of you do any color vision screening in your interview process? How do those of you with color vision impairments compensate? I'd never considered this until I was in one of our facilities with my son (who has limited color vision) and we had a discussion about the LEDs. He coul

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Steve Meuse
You might consider the ADA act before you go too far down this road. I'm no expert, but it may apply... -Steve On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Berry Mobley wrote: > Hello, > > Do any of you do any color vision screening in your interview process? How > do those of you with color vision impair

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Philip Gladwin
Maybe giving them access to a colormeter? :) http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/colorimeter-digital-color/id371113568?mt=8 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Steve Meuse wrote: > You might consider the ADA act before you go too far down this road. I'm no > expert, but it may apply... > > -Steve > >

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread William Astle
On 12-08-31 08:15 AM, Berry Mobley wrote: Hello, Do any of you do any color vision screening in your interview process? How do those of you with color vision impairments compensate? I'd never considered this until I was in one of our facilities with my son (who has limited color vision) and we h

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread telmnstr
When doing Cat5 connectors, a friend couldn't tell the orange versus brown (or was it green.) He found that with a red LED flashlight he could then tell. There are ways to work around things.

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Scott Morris
The ADA act does not allow people to have access to every single job regardless of their handicap. So, if something requires the ability to see certain colors, then that's a requirement. Scott On 8/31/12 10:30 AM, Philip Gladwin wrote: > Maybe giving them access to a colormeter? :) > > http://it

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 31-08-12 16:15, Berry Mobley wrote: > Do any of you do any color vision screening in your interview process? > How do those of you with color vision impairments compensate? I'd never > considered this until I was in one of our facilities with my son (who > has limited color vision) and we had a

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread JC Dill
On 31/08/12 7:54 AM, Scott Morris wrote: The ADA act does not allow people to have access to every single job regardless of their handicap. So, if something requires the ability to see certain colors, then that's a requirement. Be careful about those "requirements". The ADA requires employers

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:27:28 -0700, JC Dill said: > So if you DO decide to test for color vision, make sure you know your > rights and responsibilities for handling any employee or applicant who > fails the test. There's something to be said for doing the test anyhow, and being prepared to deploy

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Blake Dunlap
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 1:33 PM, wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 11:27:28 -0700, JC Dill said: > > > So if you DO decide to test for color vision, make sure you know your > > rights and responsibilities for handling any employee or applicant who > > fails the test. > > There's something to be said f

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Joel Maslak
On Aug 31, 2012, at 12:27 PM, JC Dill wrote: > So if you DO decide to test for color vision, make sure you know your rights > and responsibilities for handling any employee or applicant who fails the > test. > > IANAL - if you have any questions be sure to get advice from an attorney - > pref

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Betsy Schwartz
I installed monitoring software with different colored status dots, and discovered that we had three color-blind team members. After a pleasant hour's tweaking I ended up with green diamonds, red X's, purple squares, and yellow exclamation points (and on this particular application a mouse-over wo

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 31, 2012, at 13:29 , Betsy Schwartz wrote: > I installed monitoring software with different colored status dots, > and discovered that we had three color-blind team members. After a > pleasant hour's tweaking I ended up with green diamonds, red X's, > purple squares, and yellow exclamatio

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread David Barak
From: Betsy Schwartz >  I ended up with green diamonds, red X's, purple squares, and yellow >exclamation points (and on this particular > application a mouse-over would also tell you the name of the color > gif) Looked better for *everyone*. Is that the "Lucky Charms" style of icon generatio

RE: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Matthew Black
. matthew black california state university, long beach -Original Message- From: Betsy Schwartz [mailto:betsy.schwa...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:30 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Color vision for network techs I installed monitoring software with different colored

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-08-31 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 8/31/12, Scott Morris wrote: Perhaps the more reasonable thing to do would be instead of administering "vision tests"; administer practical skill proficiency tests, so you will expose only issues that effect performance on tasks required for a job. "Color vision" is such an arbitrary thing

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-01 Thread Vadim Antonov
The simple solution for color perception issues is to carry some cheap red/green 3d glasses... they would make discriminating between LED colors as easy as closing one eye:)

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-02 Thread Larry LaBas
The Military has colour screening for obvious reasons but I am not sure if it's needed for Networking. My take is that I designed all to have a wide variance. IE: Red, Blue, Yellow and Black which helped lower issues. Not solve them but if you limit the use of Red to certain areas (ie: Yellow /

RE: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-02 Thread Jim Ray
s.com -Original Message- From: Larry LaBas [mailto:lla...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 10:55 AM To: telmn...@757.org Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Color vision for network techs The Military has colour screening for obvious reasons but I am not sure if it's needed for

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-02 Thread Barry Shein
In high school I worked in a men's clothing store for a couple of years. One of the guys on the floor was pretty much completely color blind. It was kind of amusing and annoying at the same time as he'd run over to me when someone was in the dressing room to ask if this tie matched this shirt etc

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-02 Thread C. A. Fillekes
I suspect that if this objectively measurable physical infirmity that actually inhibits one's job function were more common in women than men, it would be used as a reason to discourage us all from even entering the profession in the first place.

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-03 Thread Lukas Lozovski
I can only imagine how making ethernet cables is a pain. The different colored wires, putting them in the RJ-45. That must be an impossible task for colorblind people. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:31 PM, C. A. Fillekes wrote: > I suspect that if this objectively measurable physical infirmity that

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-03 Thread Tei
Standards can have "bugs", and a standard that is not compatible with maybe 5% of the population is buggy. Almost any standard that start "this is red and this is green" is flawed this way. This mean any future standard created as to look into this type of stuff (and i18n and localization and oth

Re: Color vision for network techs

2012-09-04 Thread Kyle Creyts
Tei: such applications exist, see http://dankaminsky.com/2010/12/15/dankam/ http://www.wpcentral.com/augmented-reality-app-windows-phone-ids-colors-real-world-video http://daily-steampunk.com/steampunk-blog/2012/05/27/augmented-reality-steampunk-and-learing-color-vacuum/ On Sep 3, 2012 5:07 AM,