Re: GPON vs. GEPON

On 9/Jan/16 08:45, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > There's a reason Google did 16 way splits, and yes, we have two paths we > are looking at for NG-PON2. One with Calix, another with another vendor. At previous job, we did 24x splits to guarantee 100Mbps to each home; up to 50Mbps for Internet

5GHz Wifi [Was: Re: GPON vs. GEPON]

On 9/01/2016 2:48 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: But 5 GHz usage is still low because people have a ton of devices that are 2,4 GHz only. Even brand new laptops are sold without a 5 GHz radio. People don't know that they have to check - it is oh but it has wifi and it is brand new, therefore it must

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

On 9 January 2016 at 07:45, Josh Reynolds wrote: > You might be surprised... > > > It is hard to be surprised when you have hard numbers. I run a network and unsurprisingly know exactly how much traffic my users cause. That number is currently about 2 Mbit/s peak aggregated

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

> Count in oversubscription rates for residential, and consider that most > people, despite what they say or think, will end up on 2.4GHz wireless in > the home due to 5GHz sucking more than a room away - that ends up being a > very scalable solution for residential service. Um… 5GHz works a lot

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

- Original Message - From: "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com> To: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>, nanog-...@mail.com Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:46:37 PM Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON > Count in o

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

x.com <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> From: "Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com <mailto:o...@delong.

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

kedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> -- >> *From: *"Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com> >> *To: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *Cc: *"NANOG" <

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

G [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong > Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:39 PM > To: Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > Cc: nanog-...@mail.com; NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON > > Only if the 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz networks are

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

DeLong" <o...@delong.com <mailto:o...@delong.com>> > To: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> > Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>, nanog-...@mail.com > <mailto:nanog-...@mail

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

dwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > -- > *From: *"Owen DeLong" <o...@delong.com> > *To: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *Cc: *"NAN

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

You might be surprised... Our upstreams want to simply bypass 40Gbps waves and want us to move straight to 100Gbps. The cost difference is minimal. We are set up where each customer can DVR or watch up to 6 shows at once, per household. There's a reason Google did 16 way splits, and yes, we

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

We do not sell TV but that means our customers are cable cutters that do a ton of Netflix, HBO Nordic, ViaSat, SBS, DR TV etc streaming. Our traffic level per customer is about the double of what others report. VoIP is not very popular, but people do that too. In either case traffic levels from

RE: GPON vs. GEPON

or optimal band selection. Chris -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:39 PM To: Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> Cc: nanog-...@mail.com; NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: GPON vs. G

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

On 8 January 2016 at 19:46, Owen DeLong wrote: > OTOH, since the WiFi consortium took away the ability for consumers to > easily > differentiate (it’s all “n” or “ac” now regardless of frequency) and you > have > to really read the fine print on the side of the box to find a

Fwd: GPON vs. GEPON

On 8 January 2016 at 13:56, Josh Reynolds wrote: > A 8-16 way split per gpon is more reasonable. I think the current cards are > 4-10 gpon ports per, and 2 cards per E7-2. I know they have 2x10Gbps LAG > working for uplink, can't remember if 4x10Gbps LAG works yet or not. >

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

> If you take out "bitrate, split ratio, cross vendor compatibility and > purchase price differences" then what else would you like to compare or know? All the interesting bits obviously :) Anybody can read the bitrates, split ratios, compatibility and price of a spec sheet/quote. That

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

It all depends on how it is designed as well. Take a Calix E7-2. You could do a pretty high split per gpon port, I think either 32 or 64 is the max for them, but you're really just shooting yourself in the foot IMO if you're advertising and selling a lot of gig service. A 8-16 way split per gpon

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: GPON vs. GEPON The solution for selling 1G internet with EPON could be 10GEPON. This is still cheaper than GPON. The idea is that the ONU has a cheap standard 1G transmitter. Apparently you can make a 10G receiver very cheap, it is the transmitter that is e

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

If you take out "bitrate, split ratio, cross vendor compatibility and purchase price differences" then what else would you like to compare or know? Those would be the major differences I would say. We only deploy GPON here. I would say in a system like GEPON or GPON where a port is shared between

Re: GPON vs. GEPON

The solution for selling 1G internet with EPON could be 10GEPON. This is still cheaper than GPON. The idea is that the ONU has a cheap standard 1G transmitter. Apparently you can make a 10G receiver very cheap, it is the transmitter that is expensive. So it is 10G downstream and 1G upstream. With

GPON vs. GEPON

Hello all, For those of you with optical last mile networks that are familiar with both GPON and GEPON, would you mind sharing experiences of the differences between GPON and GEPON, especially from an operative perspective? For arguments sake let's assume bitrate, split ratio, cross vendor