Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-16 Thread Bryan Socha
The best way as a isp/provider to keep google updated on your geo is: 1: support their self published geo feed: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-google-self-published-geofeeds-02.html 2: If you qualify get setup on their peering portal http://peering.google com and you'll be able to provide them w

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-06 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Fred Hollis wrote: > Honestly, I lost patience "the system learning the proper location of the > IPv6 block". I have a very similar problem to the OP since 4-5 months, > submitted this IP correction form multiple times... nothing changed. > This is *very* annoying.

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-06 Thread Fred Hollis
Honestly, I lost patience "the system learning the proper location of the IPv6 block". I have a very similar problem to the OP since 4-5 months, submitted this IP correction form multiple times... nothing changed. This is *very* annoying. Yes, my whois/SWIP is perfectly fine, every other geo ip

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 10:56:22AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > In message <20150505210746.gh22...@hezmatt.org>, Matt Palmer writes: > > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote: > > > There's a form here - https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip > > > But google is prett

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20150505210746.gh22...@hezmatt.org>, Matt Palmer writes: > On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote: > > There's a form here - https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip > > But google is pretty smart, its systems will learn the correct geolocation > > over time

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Matt Palmer
On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Luan Nguyen wrote: > There's a form here - https://support.google.com/websearch/contact/ip > But google is pretty smart, its systems will learn the correct geolocation > over time... That'd be quite a trick, given that the netblock practically can't be use

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Luan Nguyen
information on this computer." > > > matthew black > california state university, long beach > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+matthew.black=csulb@nanog.org] On > Behalf Of Pedro Cavaca > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3:41 PM >

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Pedro Cavaca
oint I was trying to make on my original answer. > > matthew black > california state university, long beach > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+matthew.black=csulb@nanog.org] On > Behalf Of Pedro Cavaca > Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3

RE: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-05-05 Thread Matthew Black
n Levine Cc: NANOG Mailing List Subject: Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/873?hl=en On 7 April 2015 at 23:26, John Levine wrote: > A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from at&t. > But Google thinks he's in F

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Rob Seastrom
shawn wilson writes: > On Apr 8, 2015 7:19 AM, "Rob Seastrom" <[[r...@seastrom.com]]> wrote: >> >> >> Blair Trosper <[[blair.tros...@gmail.com]]> writes: >> >> > MaxMind (a great product) >> >> I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all >> address blocks assigned to a VPN

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Max Tulyev
On 04/08/15 14:56, Jeroen Massar wrote: > That stated, properly providing a WHOIS entry for each prefix > (inetnum/inet6num) is a good idea as that kind of indicates that that > prefix is fixed in that location and not just moving around. [skip] > Do make sure though that you do not show any fore

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Colin Johnston
Globalisation only works if network abuse and network contacts follow best practice and engage. Else trade blocks and network country blocks are done and remain in place until certain countries ethically/practically do the right thing. Colin > On 8 Apr 2015, at 13:17, Tim Franklin wrote: > >>

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Tim Franklin
> That all said: Restricting content based on location is complete and > utter nonsense in 2015. The world is global, people want to pay for > content and the content owners just don't allow people to pay for it. Globalisation is for your corporate lords and masters to buy labour and raw material

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2015-04-08 13:31, Max Tulyev wrote: > We operate IPv6 tunnel broker tb.netassist.ua, so /48 from our /32 is > spread all around the world. > Google change geo of our WHOLE /32 from time to time to another cute > random place ;) One time Google decided we are in IRAN and block a lot > of content

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 8, 2015 7:19 AM, "Rob Seastrom" wrote: > > > Blair Trosper writes: > > > MaxMind (a great product) > > I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all > address blocks assigned to a VPN vendor as "open proxy" even when > advised repeatedly that the disputed addresses (a)

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Max Tulyev
We operate IPv6 tunnel broker tb.netassist.ua, so /48 from our /32 is spread all around the world. Google change geo of our WHOLE /32 from time to time to another cute random place ;) One time Google decided we are in IRAN and block a lot of content as "not available in your country" o_O Unfortunat

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-08 Thread Rob Seastrom
Blair Trosper writes: > MaxMind (a great product) I've heard anecdotal accounts of MaxMind intentionally marking all address blocks assigned to a VPN vendor as "open proxy" even when advised repeatedly that the disputed addresses (a) had no VPN services running on them either inbound or outboun

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
maxmind is the company that does it for speedtest.net So if you've ever wondered why your IP blocks still show up as coming from your upstream and not you, well, that's why. /hard_learned_trade_secret On 04/07/2015 03:17 PM, Blair Trosper wrote: No, Google has their own internal system. Dou

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
"We'll investigate your report and, if necessary, pass the details on to our engineering team. Updates to IP addresses may take more than a month. We won't follow up with you individually but we'll do our best to resolve the issue." 'more than a month' > 3wks. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:24 PM, John

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread John R. Levine
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/873?hl=en He says he sent in the IP update three weeks ago, nothing happened. Any other suggestions? On 7 April 2015 at 23:26, John Levine wrote: A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from at&t. But Google thinks he's in

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Blair Trosper
It wouldn't hurt to correct it with MaxMind (a great product), but you'd probably have better results dealing with Google directly. If you have Google Apps, you've got support, and that would be one way to go about getting it addressed. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote:

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
I figure they all collaborate. I updated one of our IPs with MaxMind and a few weeks later Google was fixed. Of course that could be because half the staff here carry tiny GPS-enabled Google location reporting devices in their pocket too... -A On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Blair Trosper wrot

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Blair Trosper
No, Google has their own internal system. Doubt MaxMind will help out. This discussions and others like it may lead you in the right direction: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/websearch/fkyem9xUKOQ On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > You might try here: ht

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
You might try here: https://www.maxmind.com/en/correction -A On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Fred Hollis wrote: > Thanks for sending this to the list: We have the very same issue as well > (both IPv4+IPv6). If someone knows the magic button to solve this, please > contact me as well. > > > On 08

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Arzhel Younsi
The list on http://nanog.peeringdb.com/index.php/GeoIP is useful, especially if several GeoIP databases return incorrect locations. -- Arzhel On Wed, Apr 8, 2015, at 10:42, Fred Hollis wrote: > Thanks for sending this to the list: We have the very same issue as well > (both IPv4+IPv6). If someo

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Fred Hollis
Thanks for sending this to the list: We have the very same issue as well (both IPv4+IPv6). If someone knows the magic button to solve this, please contact me as well. On 08.04.2015 at 00:26 John Levine wrote: A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from at&t. But Google thin

Re: Fixing Google geolocation screwups

2015-04-07 Thread Pedro Cavaca
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/873?hl=en On 7 April 2015 at 23:26, John Levine wrote: > A friend of mine lives in Alabama and has business service from at&t. > But Google thinks he's in France. We've checked for various > possibilities of VPNs and proxies and such, and it's pretty