T-Mobile IPv6 Beta

2010-07-31 Thread Cameron Byrne
Folks, T-Mobile USA has launched an IPv6 beta service and we are interested in recruiting some friendly users as part of this trial service. Right now, the service is only for T-Mobile USA subscribers in T-Mobile USA coverage (no roaming) and only Nokia phones are supported. For more info and

Re: T-Mobile IPv6 Beta

2010-08-01 Thread Cameron Byrne
to WiFi as a first step, but they need to keep going. Here is a short thread on the Android IPv6 issue, it is really Qualcomm's issue at this point http://tinyurl.com/28nttno Cameron On 1/08/2010 9:46 a.m., Cameron Byrne wrote: Folks, T-Mobile USA has launched an IPv6 beta service and we

Re: Real ops talking to future ops

2010-08-23 Thread Cameron Byrne
 http://condor.depaul.edu/~jkristof/tdc375/ John, I could not help but take a peak at the class topics. I nearly jumped out of my seat with joy in seeing the e2e principle http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/endtoend/endtoend.pdf But, then went sad and jaded again when poking around

Re: Comcast enables 6to4 relays

2010-08-30 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote: John Jason Brzozowski wrote: Hey Bill, No plans for Teredo at this time. I'm sure, like us, you looked at what was involved and said, eh, easier to just provide native v6 than deal with that mess. 6to4 is definitely a

Re: LISP Works - Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?

2010-09-23 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: --- ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: It's working over LISP: http://www.lisp4.facebook.com/ - LISP as in

Re: Mobile Operator Connectivity

2010-09-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Jared Geiger ja...@compuwizz.net wrote: I would suggest getting on the GRX network. As an enterprise you should be able to get IPX service from any number of providers. Belgacom, Syniverse, and Sybase365 all offer IP data service onto the GRX. Then you aren't

Re: LISP Works - Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?

2010-09-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Job W. J. Snijders j...@instituut.net wrote: Hi Cameron, On 24 sep 2010, at 02:56, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: On Sep 23, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote: --- ja

Re: Mobile Operator Connectivity

2010-10-10 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: On 10/9/10 5:08 PM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: I have been working on a similar project and I am finding it very hard to get the mobile operators to understand why we want as little latency as possible and they are not very open

Re: T-Mobile USA - Peering Policy

2010-10-13 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote: Can someone on the list from T-Mobile USA please contact me.  I have tried sending a message to ad...@tmodns.net but the message bounces back and the mailbox for arintechcont...@t-mobile.com is full.   I

Re: Only 5x IPv4 /8 remaining at IANA

2010-10-19 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Mark Smith na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org wrote: On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:25:12 -0700 Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: On 10/19/10 3:58 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Adding is seperate IPv6 server is a work around and runs

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Curious as to who is running IPv6 with TW Telecom or Cogent. I'm wanting to turn up native IPv6 with them, And wanted to hear thoughts/experiences. I assume it should be a non-event. We've already got a prefix from arin that we

Re: IPv6

2010-11-18 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote: On 11/18/2010 5:14 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or 2001:470:0:76::2 (www.he.net) via Cogent. Interesting. I noticed a similar issue with  ipv6.cnn.com today. I dont see it via

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Cameron Byrne cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote: On 11/18/2010 5:14 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or 2001:470:0:76::2 (www.he.net) via Cogent. Interesting

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote: On 21-11-10 22:31, Cameron Byrne wrote: Yahoo just dropped in on the IPv6 content party http://ipv6.weather.yahoo.com/ I just bookmarked it.  Well done Yahoos. Well, ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address

Re: IPv6

2010-11-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:05 PM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: Well, ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1288:f006:1fe::1000 ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f00b:1fe::1000 ipv6.ycpi.ops.yahoo.net has IPv6 address 2001:4998:f011:1fe::1000 In my bgp I

Re: Level 3 Communications Issues Statement Concerning Comcast'sActions

2010-11-30 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2010, at 9:09 PM, Andrew Koch wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 22:17, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: So you're saying: treat it like electrical service. I have a 200 amp electrical service at my house. But I

Re: Start accepting longer prefixes as IPv4 depletes?

2010-12-08 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:07 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: Just move to v6, already.  v4 is done.  trying to keep it on life support is going to cost everyone time, money, and reduced life span due to increased stress. Exactly.  People need to adopt the v4 is done mindset and

Re: Start accepting longer prefixes as IPv4 depletes?

2010-12-08 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:10 AM, Mohacsi Janos wrote: Do you think adopting LISP or similar architectures to reduce the problems mentioned above? Yes. No. I still fail to see the value of LISP in a mature and sane

Re: Start accepting longer prefixes as IPv4 depletes?

2010-12-08 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 12/8/2010 11:23, Cameron Byrne wrote: At the edge, with the down economy, i bet there are plenty of folks that are only accept /21s and shorter from their upstream ISP so they can get some more mileage out

Re: Start accepting longer prefixes as IPv4 depletes?

2010-12-08 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:38 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:  I still fail to see the value of LISP in a mature and sane  IPv6 world. Abstraction of the global routing table away from direct dependence upon the underlying

Re: Wireless IPv6

2010-12-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:49:37 EST, Christopher Morrow said: on this, I HOPE vzw does the right thing and launches with v4/v6 dualstack on the devices in all regions where deployment happens. I don't have much hope that this will

Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network

2011-01-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:38 AM, ML wrote: At least not without some painful rebuilds of criticals systems which have these IPs deeply embedded in their configs. They shouldn't be using IP addresses in configs, they

Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network

2011-01-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message aanlktimkgpyky_aka5px4-ca-3=oufhgbnenrkpmp...@mail.gmail.com, Came ron Byrne writes: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Jan 6, 2011, at 9:38 AM, ML wrote: At least

Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network

2011-01-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On 1/5/2011 8:47 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: And, you will notice that the list at http://groups.google.com/group/ipv4literals shows only a few web site, because there are only a few that have this design flaws

Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network

2011-01-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message aanlktiks_enacm2bfyx=b=m=khejaqjkvdbwx2hwm...@mail.gmail.com, Came ron Byrne writes: As long as dual-stack is around, the app vendors don't have to move and network guys have to dream up hacks to support these

Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network

2011-01-06 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On 1/5/2011 9:39 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: I understand my users pretty well, they only go to a few web pages ... its the nature of the net.  I assure you, i am not taking any undue risk with regards to web.  Try our

Re: Problems with removing NAT from a network

2011-01-09 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On 1/8/2011 3:22 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: Relay nodes are always protecting themselves by rate-limiting, aren't they? Yes. And isn't most media traffic relayed? No, not at all. Almost all media traffic goes directly

Re: IPv6 prefix lengths

2011-01-12 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 12, 2011 7:50 PM, Richard Barnes richard.bar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, What IPv6 prefix lengths are people accepting in BGP from peers/customers? My employer just got a /48 allocation from ARIN, and we're trying to figure out how to support multiple end sites out of this (probably

Re: NAT-PT or NAT64 in real life

2011-01-19 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:18 AM, jarod smith jarod.smo...@gmail.com wrote: Although it would seem that double-stack is still the preferred method of linux distribution, I want my next deployed in IPv6 only. For linux there is NAT-PT tomicki and NAT64 Viagenie. I don't have Cisco equipment

Re: anyone running GPS clocks in Southeastern Georgia?

2011-01-23 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 21, 2011 6:49 PM, Pete Carah p...@altadena.net wrote: On 01/21/2011 04:29 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Friday, January 21, 2011 04:23:52 pm Michael Holstein wrote: Aren't CDMA BTS clocked off GPS? Yep; and many of the aftermarket GPS receivers commonly used for the disciplined clock for

Re: EPC backhaul networks

2011-01-30 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 30, 2011 9:03 AM, Glen Kent glen.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to understand why there is a preference for L3 VPNs over L2 VPNs for the EPC backhaul networks? We can use both layer 2 and layer 3 VPNs for communication between the eNodeB and the MME or S-GW, so why is it that

Re: EPC backhaul networks

2011-01-30 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 30, 2011 10:11 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Cameron Byrne wrote: / There are just more companies offering L2 metroE than L3 in the backhaul space. I have pushed for L3 but very few offer the speeds and reach required Could you please elaborate

Re: EPC backhaul networks

2011-01-30 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Sun, 30 Jan 2011, Cameron Byrne wrote: The only way to reach 2000 cell sites in Chicago with 100megs of Ethernet handoff is with L2 metroE.  There is not a feasible L3 service offered today. Ah. We either rent

Re: quietly....

2011-01-31 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: Discussed, Disgusted, and Dismissed. The E space would take more software upgrades to existing systems than just deploying IPv6. It's true. It was only after discovering how much work it would take to make 240/4 like RFC

Re: Using IPv6 with prefixes shorter than a /64 on a LAN

2011-02-01 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Chuck Anderson c...@wpi.edu wrote: On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 03:14:57PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote: On Feb 1, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Jack Bates wrote: There are many cases where ULA is a perfect fit, and to work around it seems silly and reduces the full capabilities

Re: quietly....

2011-02-01 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com said: On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Karl Auer wrote: Devil's advocate hat on: NAT (in its most common form) also permits internal addressing to be independent of external

Re: quietly....

2011-02-02 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:03 PM, david raistrick dr...@icantclick.org wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Chris Owen wrote: On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:09 PM, david raistrick wrote: At least in ARIN territory, if you're multihomed, and you can show in-1-year use of 50% of a (v4) /24, you qualify for a PI v6

Re: Significant Announcement (re: IPv4) 3 February - Watch it Live!

2011-02-03 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Max Larson Henry wrote: News conference starts now The exhaustion has made CNN http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/02/03/internet.addresses.gone/ You mean

Re: Top webhosters offering v6 too?

2011-02-06 Thread Cameron Byrne
I have used both softlayer and arpnetworks. Both have v6 by default, but only softlayer can be considered a big boy... multiple sites. Cloud and dedicated servers ... softlayer is a class act with v6 added for free

Re: Top webhosters offering v6 too?

2011-02-06 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: On 2/6/11 7:08 PM, Adam Rothschild wrote: We (voxel.net, AS 29791) offer dual-stack on all server and cloud products.  As others have pointed out, SoftLayer is an excellent example of a hosting provider that Gets It on a

Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-11 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Feb 11, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Scott Helms wrote: ISPs know it takes years to move a customer base.  They should have been ready years ago.  They still arn't ready.  I was asking for what features to look for in a new CPE so

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-11 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Feb 11, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Scott Helms wrote: I don't know about that.  Yes, v4 will be around for a long time but considering the oligopolies we have in both eyeball and content networks, ones a dozen or so very large

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-11 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: I think you'll be in for a surprise here, too. The 4G transition is already underway. For the vendors where 4G means LTE, IPv6 is the native protocol and IPv4 requires a certain amount of hackery to operate. In the WiMax

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-12 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011, Thomas Habets wrote: Really. Exactly. Can we PLEASE kill the myth that Android and iPhone has IPv6 support for mobile side. PLEASE. None do, and there are no publically available roadmaps when

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Cameron Byrne
Too bad the article pushes my mobile device to their mobile site mobile.nytimes.com and that references an ipv4 literal for the picture to load so not only is nytimes not ipv6 it is also broken for ipv6 only users behind nat64

Re: NY Times on IPv4 depletion

2011-02-14 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Feb 14, 2011 1:52 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message 4d597216.1030...@brightok.net, Jack Bates writes: On 2/14/2011 12:12 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: Too bad the article pushes my mobile device to their mobile site mobile.nytimes.com and that references an ipv4 literal

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-17 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 5:08 AM, John Curran jcur...@istaff.org wrote: On Feb 17, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Not that it matters because it's too late now and it would only give us a few more months, but: Does the US government really need more than 150 million addresses,

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-17 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:46 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: If you want to go on a wild goose chase, start chasing down 240/4 and you might make some progress. As i have mentioned before, it was only after i gave up on 240/4 for private network numbering that i really earnestly

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-17 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:51 AM, John Curran jcur...@istaff.org wrote: On Feb 17, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: 240/4 has been enabled in Linux since 2.6.25 (applied on January 21, 2008 by David Miller) so that's like three years already. Yep, and that's great.  Let me know when

Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-17 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:52 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: 240/4 has been enabled in Linux since 2.6.25 (applied on January 21, 2008 by David Miller) so that's like three years already. Yep, and that's great.  Let me know when a Cisco 7600 will route a packet like this.

Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...)

2011-02-18 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 10:42 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote: You never been told something like We don't do (or stock) that because there's no demand for it! You know, you're the Nth person to ask about it today. I have, and many more times than merely once. -- Mike Andrews,

Re: Mac OS X 10.7, still no DHCPv6

2011-02-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Feb 28, 2011 8:45 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2011, at 7:34 AM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2011-02-28, at 10:27, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 28/02/2011 14:59, Joe Abley wrote: I'm not sure why people keep fixating on that as an end goal. The future we ought to be

Re: Mac OS X 10.7, still no DHCPv6

2011-02-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Feb 28, 2011 12:28 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: It's hard to see v6-only networks as a viable, general-purpose solution to anything in the foreseeable future. I'm not sure why people keep fixating on that as an end goal. The future we ought to be working towards is a consistent,

Re: Typical additional latency for CGN?

2012-10-07 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Oct 7, 2012 1:48 PM, Tom Limoncelli t...@whatexit.org wrote: Have there been studies on how much latency CGN adds to a typical internet user? I'd also be interested in anecdotes. Anecdote. Sub-millasecond, with full load. (gigs and gigs) . CGN does not meaningfully add latency. CGN is

Re: Coded TCP

2012-10-24 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Oct 24, 2012 12:40 AM, Daniël W. Crompton daniel.cromp...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 October 2012 08:35, Masataka Ohta mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp wrote: (2012/10/24 12:29), Rodrick Brown wrote: With coded TCP, blocks of packets are clumped together and then transformed into

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-26 Thread Cameron Byrne
Sent from ipv6-only Android On Nov 26, 2012 5:54 AM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Nov 26, 2012, at 8:33 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: Why is that a significant question? It is significant because it provides some rough measure of the relative *importance* of IPv6

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-26 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Nov 26, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: Ipv6 is not important for users, it is important for network operators who want to sustain their business. I agree with the first part; not sure I agree

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-27 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message alpine.deb.2.00.1211270558340.27...@uplift.swm.pp.se, Mikael Abrah amsson writes: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Michael Thomas wrote: I don't see either Apple or Microsoft as being the hindrance. In fact, both of them

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-27 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:28 AM, mike m...@mtcc.com wrote: On 11/26/12 8:59 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2012, Michael Thomas wrote: I don't see either Apple or Microsoft as being the hindrance. In fact, both of them seem pretty ready, fsvo ready. Unlike ISP's by and large.

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-27 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote: On 11/27/2012 11:58 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:28 AM, mike m...@mtcc.com wrote: Is this the app's fault? What are they doing wrong? Yes, it is the app's fault. They are either doing IPv4

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-27 Thread Cameron Byrne
Sent from ipv6-only Android On Nov 27, 2012 8:39 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, mike wrote: You're saying there are no cellular v6 deployments? I'm about 99% certain that you're wrong. I see v6 addresses in my apache logs all the time and they're almost

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
Sent from ipv6-only Android On Nov 27, 2012 10:57 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson swm...@swm.pp.se wrote: On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Cameron Byrne wrote: Verizon in the USA does have iOS on ipv6. Afaik, the network must ask for it the same way all Android Samsung devices on t-mobile now have ipv6 as a user

Re: Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications....

2012-11-29 Thread Cameron Byrne
Got some bad data here. Let me help. Sent from ipv6-only Android On Nov 29, 2012 8:22 AM, Michael Thomas m...@mtcc.com wrote: Phone apps, by and large, are designed by people in homes or small companies. They do not have v6 connectivity. Full stop. They don't care about v6. Full stop. It's

Re: Programmers can't get IPv6 thus that is why they do not have IPv6 in their applications....

2012-12-02 Thread Cameron Byrne
Everything you need to know except for how to actually accomplish this task in the real world. In order to accomplish this in the real world using present-day software development methodologies you would need to do a few more things: - Generate some user stories that explain why the

Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6

2013-01-18 Thread Cameron Byrne
Constantine, On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 January 2013 08:12, fredrik danerklint fredan-na...@fredan.se wrote: From the article: Faced with the shortage of IPv4 addresses and the failure of IPv6 to take off, British ISP PlusNet is

Re: Network security on multiple levels (was Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat)

2013-02-20 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com We as Americans have plenty of things we have done halfass.. I hope an Internet kill switch doesn't end up being one of them. Build

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
Hi, In-line On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Mukom Akong T. mukom.ta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear experts, I've found myself thinking about what ground an engineer needs to cover in order to convince the executives to approve and commit to an IPv6 Deployment project. I think such a

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-05 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Mukom Akong T. mukom.ta...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Mike. the.li...@mgm51.com wrote: I would lean towards f) Cost/benefit of deploying IPv6. I certainly agree, which is why I propose understanding you organisation's business model

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-06 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On 3/5/2013 8:20 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Matthew Kaufman matt...@matthew.at wrote: On 3/5/2013 7:15 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Mar 5, 2013, at 6:46 PM, Mukom Akong T. mukom.ta...@gmail.com

Re: Nxdomain redirect revenue

2011-09-26 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sep 26, 2011 1:29 AM, Florian Weimer fwei...@bfk.de wrote: * Cameron Byrne: It is very important to ask the redirect partners about yields... meaning, you may find that less than 5% of nxdomain redirects can be actually served an ad page because 95%+ of nxd are printer lookups

Re: Sprint 3G/4G PPTP VPN connectivity

2011-09-26 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 9/26/11 8:36 AM, Drew Weaver wrote: Has anyone been able to pull any magic off that allows PPTP connectivity over sprint's 3G/4G wireless network? I assume they're just filtering it flat out, but before I contact

Re: How Skype uses the network [was: News item: Blackberry services down worldwide]

2011-10-14 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Oct 13, 2011, at 7:26 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: On 10/13/11 3:30 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: In fact, Skype, just as a for instance, is worse on hotel wifi as launching the app on a laptop makes you a middle

Re: Manage an enterprise network? Please fill out my survey - for Science! :-)

2011-10-31 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Oct 31, 2011 9:13 PM, Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote: On 10/31/2011 11:00 PM, Scott Whyte wrote: But seriously, if you can help her ascertain real middlebox use cases she wants to help improve that segment of networking via useful research, nothing more or less. Would love to see

IPv6 beta support for Android phones

2011-11-04 Thread Cameron Byrne
FYI. T-Mobile USA now has opt-in beta support for an Android phone on IPv6, more info here https://sites.google.com/site/tmoipv6/lg-mytouch As far as i know, this is the first Android phone that support IPv6 on the GSM/UMTS mobile interface. Previous version of Android phones supported IPv6 on

Re: IPv6 beta support for Android phones

2011-11-06 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Tom Hill t...@ninjabadger.net wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 15:04 -0700, Cameron Byrne wrote: FYI. T-Mobile USA now has opt-in beta support for an Android phone on IPv6, more info here https://sites.google.com/site/tmoipv6/lg-mytouch Very, very good. I hope T

Re: Cell-based OOB management devices

2011-11-07 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Nov 6, 2011 10:15 PM, David Hubbard dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com wrote: Hi all, I am looking at cellular-based devices as a higher speed alternative to dial-up backup access methods for out of band management during emergencies. I was wondering if anyone had experiences with such devices

Re: Comcast IPv6 Update

2011-11-09 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:40 AM, Jeroen Massar jer...@unfix.org wrote: On 2011-11-09 17:32 , Brzozowski, John wrote: Update from http://www.comcast6.net IPv6 Pilot Market Deployment Begins Wednesday, November 9, 2011 Comcast has started our first pilot market deployment of IPv6... Congrats!

Re: Arguing against using public IP space

2011-11-13 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:13 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Robert Bonomi bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 10:36:43 -0500, Jason Lewis jle...@packetnexus.com wrote;

Re: Ok; let's have the Does DNAT contribute to Security argument one more time...

2011-11-14 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Nov 14, 2011 9:22 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:06:13 EST, William Herrin said: Using two firewalls in serial from two different vendors doubles the complexity. Yet it almost always improves security: fat fingers on one firewall rarely repeat the same way on

Re: Arguing against using public IP space

2011-11-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Nov 15, 2011 7:09 AM, -Hammer- bhmc...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, Everyone is complaining about whether a FW serves its purpose or not. Take a step back. Security is about layers. Router ACLs to filter whitenoise. FW ACLs to filter more. L7 (application) FWs to inspect HTTP payload. Patch

Re: BGP and Firewalls...

2011-12-07 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Dec 7, 2011 7:49 PM, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Dec 8, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: I don't think you're looking at defense in depth in the right way, Actually, it sometimes seems as if nobody in the industry understands what 'defense in depth' really means,

De-bogon not possible via arin policy.

2011-12-14 Thread Cameron Byrne
Fyi, I just was rejected from arin for an ipv4 allocation. I demonstrated I own ~100k ipv4 addresses today. My customers use over 10 million bogon / squat space ip addresses today, and I have good attested data on that. But all I can qualify for is a /18, and then in 3 months maybe a /17. This

Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.

2011-12-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Dec 15, 2011 6:43 PM, Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org wrote: On 15-Dec-11 16:31, Ricky Beam wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:36:32 -0500, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: ... I had thought new allocations are based on demonstrated need. The fact that addresses are in use would

Re: De-bogon not possible via arin policy.

2011-12-16 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Dec 15, 2011 10:35 PM, Brielle Bruns br...@2mbit.com wrote: On 12/15/11 3:31 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 16:36:32 -0500, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: ... I had thought new allocations are based on demonstrated need. The fact that addresses are in use would seem

Re: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

2011-12-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM, TJ trej...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/12/28 Masataka Ohta mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: SNIP In this case, the following statement in RFC1883:    If the minimum time for rebooting the node is known (often more than    6

Re: Misconceptions, was: IPv6 RA vs DHCPv6 - The chosen one?

2011-12-29 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Dec 29, 2011 6:38 AM, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote: Sounds like we have one group saying that IPv6 is too complicated and that all the overhead of IPv6 had resulted in slow adoption. Meanwhile we have others saying it doesn't have enough functionality, and should also include IGP.

Re: L3 consequences of WLAN offload in cellular networks (was - endless DHCPv6 thread)

2011-12-30 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Dec 30, 2011 9:16 AM, Alexander Harrowell a.harrow...@gmail.com wrote: In the DHCP v6 thread, there was some discussion of mobility and its IP layer consequences. As various people pointed out, cellular networks basically handle this in the RAN (Radio Access Network) and therefore at layer

Re: anycast load balancing issue

2012-01-04 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 4, 2012 4:52 AM, Måns Nilsson mansa...@besserwisser.org wrote: Subject: anycast load balancing issue Date: Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:02:55PM +0100 Quoting Måns Nilsson (mansa...@besserwisser.org): Trouble is, we find that (untweaked) cost and metric are such that all nodes are equal.

Re: Comcast DNSSEC

2012-01-10 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 10, 2012 5:11 PM, Peter Kristolaitis alte...@alter3d.ca wrote: Wow! Congrats to the Comcast crew, that's absolutely awesome! +1 Between dnssec and ipv6 Comcast has shown true internet evolution leadership in their *actions*, which really stands out in an industry full of talk. Cb

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: Unfortunately that does exactly nothing to help with Internet scale. Now scaling for your local environment embedded RP might be beneficial, but actual practical applications

Re: DNS Attacks

2012-01-18 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 18, 2012 8:43 AM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu wrote: On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:41 30AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On

Re: using ULA for 'hidden' v6 devices?

2012-01-25 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 25, 2012 7:52 AM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: Is anyone using ULA (RFC 4193) address space for v6 infrastructure that does not need to be exposed to the outside world? I understand the concept of having fc00::/8 being doled out by the RIRs never went anywhere, and

Re: using ULA for 'hidden' v6 devices?

2012-01-26 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 26, 2012 5:49 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Jan 26, 2012, at 2:00 AM, George Bonser wrote: Use different GUA ranges for internal and external. It's easy enough to get an additional prefix. As others have mentioned, things like management interfaces on access

Re: using ULA for 'hidden' v6 devices?

2012-01-26 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 26, 2012 8:44 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Jan 26, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Jima wrote: On 2012-01-26, Owen DeLong wrote: If you can't point to some specific advantage of ULA over secondary non-routed GUA prefixes, then, ULA doesn't have a reason to live. My biggest

Re: using ULA for 'hidden' v6 devices?

2012-01-26 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 26, 2012 8:49 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Jan 26, 2012, at 7:35 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Jan 26, 2012 5:49 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: On Jan 26, 2012, at 2:00 AM, George Bonser wrote: Use different GUA ranges for internal and external. It's easy

Re: IPv6 dual stacking and route tables

2012-02-03 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:10 PM, -Hammer- bhmc...@gmail.com wrote: So, we are preparing to add IPv6 to our multi-homed (separate routers and carriers with IBGP) multi-site business. Starting off with a lab of course. Circuits and hardware are a few months away. I'm doing the initial designs

Re: Website for ipv6.level3.com returns HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error

2012-03-20 Thread Cameron Byrne
Not sure on the usefulness of these threads, but i have been getting testy about lightreading.com not working wget -6 www.lightreading.com --2012-03-20 04:48:25-- http://www.lightreading.com/ Resolving www.lightreading.com (www.lightreading.com)... 2001:470:1f06:1274::2 Connecting to

Re: Quad-A records in Network Solutions ?

2012-03-28 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mar 28, 2012 2:25 PM, Arturo Servin arturo.servinarturo.ser...@gmail.com @ arturo.ser...@gmail.comgmail.com arturo.ser...@gmail.com wrote: Another reason to not use them. Seriusly, if they cannot expend some thousands of dollars (because it shouldn't be more than that) in

Re: Quad-A records in Network Solutions ?

2012-03-29 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 9:21 AM, james jones ja...@freedomnet.co.nz wrote: Not to sound like I am trolling here, but how hard is it get VPS servers or some EC2 servers and setup your own DNS servers. Are there use cases where that is not practical? If your goal is , i assume you care

Re: uunet ends newsfeed/newsreader in US

2012-03-30 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Mar 30, 2012 3:13 PM, Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com wrote: uunet/vzb will terminate its United States Newsreader and Newsfeed services on March 31, 2012, with no plans to offer a replacement, and any

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