Re: The NANOG Irrelevance? [Was: Re: mlc files formal complaint against me ]

2007-10-10 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Stephen Wilcox wrote: On 9 Oct 2007, at 18:39, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Stephen Wilcox wrote: i'm not sure that sounds like improvement. why cant the charter just allow them to decide a presentation is worth having without going through all the hoops that Paul mentions if its appropriate

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-09 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Martin Hannigan wrote: I suggest with the best intention possible that marty unwad his shorts and the rest of us STFU and GBTW. I'll add others to the list, but yes, in the simplest possible terms, this thread was a ridiculous waste of time of everyone involved. Well, Vijay can KMA, but

Re: The NANOG Irrelevance? [Was: Re: mlc files formal complaint against me ]

2007-10-09 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Stephen Wilcox wrote: i'm not sure that sounds like improvement. why cant the charter just allow them to decide a presentation is worth having without going through all the hoops that Paul mentions if its appropriate? I don't recall feeling particularly bound by the procedure. In the sense

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Randy Bush wrote: no sc hat at all I did not think at the time that, that particular message contributed much to the general tenor of the discussion. The implication I derived was not that joe nacchio was a felon, we all know this (19 counts of insider trading), but that .au is still a penal

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Martin Hannigan wrote: How do we determine what people do want to read vs. what they don't? It would be nice to have some direction. I don't mean from futures, there's nobody really here, but I mean community wide overall? How do we determine what people really want to hear about and act

progrma topics for the future.

2007-03-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
The program committee (I am a member, but not representing) had some discussion in Toronto on the subject of recruiting tutorials containing entry level material. Philip's bgp tutorials have always been well received but most tutorial material we receive is aimed fairly narrowly at

Re: Is there another NANOG somewhere?

2007-02-14 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: NANOG-L is unique. There isn't anything else devoted to issues for truly large networks, and the providers that manage the distance between them. When I see Cisco (or Juniper, or Extreme) announcements about a vulnerability, those are useful. Nonsense about Solaris 10