Hi everyone,
From time to time, Merit receives requests from members of the media to
be granted complimentary access to NANOG in exchange for the privilege
of covering the event. As some of you may know, the media quite often
receives complimentary access to conferences like ours so that
high
Philip Smith wrote:
> Randy Bush said the following on 16/7/08 16:28:
>> Philip Smith wrote:
>>> I was just musing out loud after my JANOG visit
>> which kinda confused me, as janog had excellent wireless.
> But no power. So those with laptops, I noticed, spent a lot of time with
> laptops shut, lo
Randy Bush said the following on 16/7/08 16:28:
> Philip Smith wrote:
>> I was just musing out loud after my JANOG visit
But no power. So those with laptops, I noticed, spent a lot of time with
laptops shut, looking at the presentation, perhaps listening too.
philip
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Philip Smith wrote:
> I was just musing out loud after my JANOG visit
which kinda confused, as janog had excellent wireless.
randy
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Hi everyone,
That was a very interesting variety of responses! :-)
I'm trying to remember what we all did in the days before laptops were
viable to lug around to conferences, and when wireless wasn't available.
I guess the world, and our expectations, have really moved on a long way.
Naturally
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It's a community full of high-functional Asberger's sufferers... As are
a lot of engineering disciplines. It's hard to assert that they aren't
paying attention without testing that hypothesis. Given the quantity of
feedback that we receive ab
Would everyone prefer to hear from well-heeled slick Vendor sales
engineers instead? Doctors are some of the most boring people on
earth, but if you listen closely you will surely learn something from
them. Likewise engineers aren't the most presentable people on earth,
but if you listen closely
Alan Clegg wrote:
> Public speaking is a class that is pretty expensive, and lots of
> technical people don't get the opportunity to become professionally
> trained speakers because that's not what their job is and their
> employers would rather them be productive in the technical aspects of
> the
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:32 PM, vijay gill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Alan Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> AlanC {Dale Carnegie trained speaker, presenter, relevant, interesting
>> and fun guy that had thought about presenting at NANOG, but won't now}
> If what you say is worthwhile and engaging, they'll listen
again, what keeps the cows in the pasture is the quality of the grass
not the size of the fence.
randy, who has seen a bull walk through a fence without noticing it
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Alan Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Mike Hughes wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, vijay gill wrote:
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> >> In short, instead of coercive action, how about the presenters learn to
> be
> >> more relevant, inter
Lynda wrote:
> I've seen a lot. Sometimes it feels like I've seen everything, and more
> than once for most of it. On the other hand, I just attended a talk on
> the UNIX Command Line, and learned a couple of things I hadn't known
> before. Many presentations are the same. Just because the audi
On 15 Jul 2008, at 16:45, Mike Hughes wrote:
> People with their laptop open aren't the problem.
My 2[c|p]
I agree with Mike, many engineering staff are only permitted to attend
the meetings on the basis that operational emergencies can be covered
during conferences. Taking the conference
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Mike Hughes wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, vijay gill wrote:
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>> In short, instead of coercive action, how about the presenters learn to be
>> more relevant, interesting, or fun.
>
> I'll second that [...]
If I were ever asked to present at NANOG an
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, vijay gill wrote:
> In short, instead of coercive action, how about the presenters learn to be
> more relevant, interesting, or fun.
I'll second that, and the whole "pressure-release valve" theory, Vijay,
and therefore (even if this isn't a vote) this is a "no" to shutting o
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:28 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Let this be a vote for *no* on shutting off net access.
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> It's not really an either/or situation. There are ways to
> have both, and, as we both pointed out, there are good reasons
> why speakers should not assume that room full
> If what you say is worthwhile and engaging, they'll listen.
> The speaking style that works well at a business meeting is
> going to leave a technical audience desiring another cup of
> coffee, or the opportunity to catch up with a friend in the
> row behind them.
And it is all being transm
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>>>Surely I understand situations arise where you have to fire up your vpn
>>>and do something, and that's foreseeable, but if you're going to jus
Stephen Wilcox wrote:
> Having said that, providing its just the main plenary then sure give
> it a go - why not try a 1/2 day in the next nanog and then collect
> the feedback after to see how it went.
Suggestion: if you're serious about considering this, announce your
intentions before reg
Alan Clegg wrote:
> I understand why it's annoying... and it is disrespectful to the
> speaker. Nothing like being the guy standing up there and 1/2 of the
> audience not paying attention. I'd rather they not show up at all.
But there's nothing like being the guy (or gal) walking up to present,
> Having said that, providing its just the main plenary then
> sure give it a go - why not try a 1/2 day in the next nanog
> and then collect the feedback after to see how it went.
Essentially, this suggestion is just one form of a blended
solution to the issue, i.e. a blend of connectivity and
On 15 Jul 2008, at 03:52, Philip Smith wrote:
> Robert Seastrom said the following on 7/7/08 05:16:
>> It seems that Bhutan is having trouble with web surfing and gaming
>> during their sessions:
>>
>> http://uk.reuters.com/article/technologyNewsMolt/idUKB12933220080630
>
> It is a thought though
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