Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Sean Figgins
Steve Gibbard wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: >> Why? The people who bellyache and the people who have skin in the >> game are by and large a disjoint set. As someone who's put up (in >> more ways than one), I encourage those who are not willing to "put up" >> to "shut up

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On 29 Jan 2008, at 15:57, Steve Gibbard wrote: > On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > >> >> Pete Templin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> And seriously, can we stop with the "if you don't like it, you must >>> volunteer to serve on it to effect your desired changes" mantra? >> >> Wh

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > > Pete Templin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> And seriously, can we stop with the "if you don't like it, you must >> volunteer to serve on it to effect your desired changes" mantra? > > Why? The people who bellyache and the people who have skin i

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Pete Templin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And seriously, can we stop with the "if you don't like it, you must > volunteer to serve on it to effect your desired changes" mantra? Why? The people who bellyache and the people who have skin in the game are by and large a disjoint set. As someone

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Pete Templin
Philip Smith wrote: > NANOG-futures is for discussing ways we can improve NANOG the community, > NANOG the mailing list, NANOG whatever-else we want to make it. It's not > really a place for whining about who did what or didn't etc - people > tend to kill thread once that starts. Step 1: redir

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Philip Smith
Hi Michael, I've no real desire to enter into the who said what and what is on topic or off topic etc, etc, as the whole discussion is getting quite boring now. However, I do think that you will find that there are a lot of people who are very interested in NANOG, just not interested in this pa

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread michael.dillon
Some typical Hannigan posturing below. Joe Greco posts a long opinion piece about privacy policy, IN DISAGREEMENT WITH MY MESSAGE, and Hannigan launches into a diatribe against me. For the record, I *HAVE* referred to the mailinglist AUP which is *NOT* at the URL referred to by Hannigan. The 1s