Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And seriously, can we stop with the if you don't like it, you must volunteer to serve on it to effect your desired changes mantra? Why? The people who bellyache and the people who have skin in the game are by and large a disjoint set. As someone

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Pete Templin
Philip Smith wrote: NANOG-futures is for discussing ways we can improve NANOG the community, NANOG the mailing list, NANOG whatever-else we want to make it. It's not really a place for whining about who did what or didn't etc - people tend to kill thread once that starts. Step 1: redirect

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And seriously, can we stop with the if you don't like it, you must volunteer to serve on it to effect your desired changes mantra? Why? The people who bellyache and the people who have skin in the game

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On 29 Jan 2008, at 15:57, Steve Gibbard wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Pete Templin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And seriously, can we stop with the if you don't like it, you must volunteer to serve on it to effect your desired changes mantra? Why? The people who

Re: [Nanog-futures] Objection: RE: [admin] Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal

2008-01-29 Thread Sean Figgins
Steve Gibbard wrote: On Tue, 29 Jan 2008, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Why? The people who bellyache and the people who have skin in the game are by and large a disjoint set. As someone who's put up (in more ways than one), I encourage those who are not willing to put up to shut up.