Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Power supply for nixies (Z566M)

2012-01-23 Thread David Forbes
On 1/23/12 1:41 PM, kay486 wrote: Optimal, meaning to asure longest life, yet being somewhat bright, not completely dull. A quick Google search for this tube yields Dieter Waechter's excellent page, which lists the typical current as 4.5 mA. http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/data/V600/

[neonixie-l] Re: MAX1771 PSU instability (solved)

2012-01-23 Thread misty01a
Hello. In my "high current" MAX1771 PSU design I made several years ago, the best results I got when I used a toroidal inductor with a current rating of 10.3 A (Bourns 2200LL-470-RC), and a RSENSE peak current setting of 5.33 A. I tried other inductors, including a physically smaller 2100LL serie

Re: [neonixie-l] MAX1771 PSU instability (solved)

2012-01-23 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 12-01-23 04:16 PM, Jan Rychter wrote: Have you tried a toroidal inductor? They're better behaved in this respect, even though they're physically large, especially for the high current one you'd need. Hmm, I haven't considered that. They might indeed behave better. The inductor I use is

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-23 Thread threeneurons
On Jan 23, 2:29 pm, mike wrote: > thank you all > > is there an easy way to use Dekatrons to do it > > thanks > >           mike To do what ? How about an AC line sync timebase using a 'dekatron pendulum' ? The animated .GIF on this overview page: http://threeneurons.wordpress.com/dekatron-stuf

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-23 Thread mike
thank you all is there an easy way to use Dekatrons to do it thanks mike On Jan 23, 7:23 am, John Rehwinkel wrote: > > I'm interested in a OXCO if anyone knows a good design. > > I haven't tried rolling my own, but the concept is simple - pop your crystal > into a small insulated e

Re: [neonixie-l] MAX1771 PSU instability (solved)

2012-01-23 Thread Jan Rychter
On 23 sty 2012, at 19:46, John Rehwinkel wrote: >> A 0R025 RSENSE resistor means that we're ramping the current up to 4A before >> releasing the energy stored in the inductor. 4A is a lot of current. The >> magnetic field produced by the inductor is so strong that it affects >> everything aroun

[neonixie-l] Re: Power supply for nixies (Z566M)

2012-01-23 Thread kay486
Optimal, meaning to asure longest life, yet being somewhat bright, not completely dull. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[neonixie-l] Re: Power supply for nixies (Z566M)

2012-01-23 Thread kay486
So could you tell me please, what voltage/current is optimal for the tube? (btw the 3-5mA was from different tube, i messed up the info sheet, it should be 3-6ma (20mA)) On Jan 23, 8:23 pm, David Forbes wrote: > On 1/23/12 12:43 PM, kay486 wrote: > > > Hello there, can somebody tell me, what exa

Re: [neonixie-l] Power supply for nixies (Z566M)

2012-01-23 Thread David Forbes
On 1/23/12 12:43 PM, kay486 wrote: Hello there, can somebody tell me, what exactly can i put into a tube without demaging it. From what i understand, i can put there anything between 3-5mA at 170V (think its DC, but correct me if im worng please) And i assume that the 7mA *Katodenspitzenstrom* is

[neonixie-l] Power supply for nixies (Z566M)

2012-01-23 Thread kay486
Hello there, can somebody tell me, what exactly can i put into a tube without demaging it. From what i understand, i can put there anything between 3-5mA at 170V (think its DC, but correct me if im worng please) And i assume that the 7mA *Katodenspitzenstrom* is the peak value that will burn the ca

Re: [neonixie-l] MAX1771 PSU instability (solved)

2012-01-23 Thread John Rehwinkel
> A 0R025 RSENSE resistor means that we're ramping the current up to 4A before > releasing the energy stored in the inductor. 4A is a lot of current. The > magnetic field produced by the inductor is so strong that it affects > everything around it, even very carefully routed traces > I did some

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New to the group.

2012-01-23 Thread John Rehwinkel
> Why not try a IN13 bargraph instead ? It only > draws 4.5mA full scale. The color is different. May or may not be different: IN-9s come in both purple (argon) and orange (neon). - John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To post t

Re: [neonixie-l] MAX1771 PSU instability (solved)

2012-01-23 Thread Jan Rychter
A while ago I posted about my problems with a MAX1771-based PSU that I was designing and building, asking for advice. I did get some advice, which was right -- but only partly so. Read on if you're interested in the details. My board was based on Nick de Smith's design. What I wanted, though, is

Re: [neonixie-l] MAX1771 PSU instability

2012-01-23 Thread Jan Rychter
On 15 sty 2012, at 00:37, Jon wrote: > On Jan 14, 10:24 pm, Jan Rychter wrote: >> On 14 sty 2012, at 18:37, marta_kson wrote: >> >> I think I'll need to redesign the board without the potentiometer, thus >> bringing the FB resistors much closer to the chip. >> > > I can't speak to the arcane

[neonixie-l] Re: New to the group.

2012-01-23 Thread threeneurons
On Jan 23, 5:50 am, dr pepper wrote: > Thats interesting, I'm using 4 by IN1's, OG3 ... dekatron. > 210 out for the nixies, I use a 12k anode resistor, ... tubes are multiplexed > by 5 (4 tubes and another slot for some neons). >... uses a 555 ... produces and regulates 210 and ... doubler to > gi

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-23 Thread John Rehwinkel
> I'm interested in a OXCO if anyone knows a good design. I haven't tried rolling my own, but the concept is simple - pop your crystal into a small insulated enclosure with a heater and thermostat, this avoiding temperature related variations. I generally just buy ready made crystal ovens. The

[neonixie-l] Re: trying to wrap my head around making a clock out of this

2012-01-23 Thread dr pepper
I'm interested in a OXCO if anyone knows a good design. Also thought about receiving radio 4 on long wave 198 kc and dividing down to 1hz, they use a rhubidium oscillator to make the carrier, dont know why, I'm sure someone here does. On 20 Jan, 18:42, Nicholas Stock wrote: > GPS is the way to g

[neonixie-l] Re: New to the group.

2012-01-23 Thread dr pepper
Thats interesting, I'm using 4 by IN1's, but not a a101 I have a OG3 single pulse dekatron. I have a supply breadboarded, it puts 210 out for the nixies, I use a 12k anode resistor, befroe you shout my tubes are multiplexed by 5 (4 tubes and another slot for some neons). My supply uses a 555 I like

Re: [neonixie-l] New to the group.

2012-01-23 Thread Jan Rychter
On 23 sty 2012, at 04:10, threeneurons wrote: >> Although, if you are using a voltage doubler to get your HV supply, you >> will find that the supply sags as current increases >> >> -Adam W7Q >> > > Yep, the ripple voltage increases dramatically, per multiplier stage, > given the same curre