Re: [neonixie-l] Dekatron quiz!

2020-10-29 Thread Mac Doktor
> On Oct 29, 2020, at 5:28 AM, guus.assm...@wolmail.nl wrote: > > Hello, > > The 8080 processor has an instruction set, that's really logical if you write > in in Octal inestead of Hex. IIRC, the 8080 instruction set was octal, at least in the beginning, but it's been a VERY long time since

[neonixie-l] Re: Ignition delays

2020-10-29 Thread newxito
It’s direct drive, 5 x HV5622. According to the datasheet, for 200V the resistor should be 18k. I don’t want to change the 14 anode resistors because I don’t want to play around the tubes with the hot air gun if not absolutely necessary. I can try to increment the voltage to 175V, I think that

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Amperex 8453 Counter tube

2020-10-29 Thread Dekatron42
Ronald Dekker also has an article on Ring counters too: https://www.dos4ever.com/ring/ring.html if you want to know more about them - circuits with neon tubes and semiconductors are shown and explained, even driving Nixies. /Martin On Thursday, 29 October 2020 14:52:01 UTC+1, peter bunge wrote

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Amperex 8453 Counter tube

2020-10-29 Thread peter bunge
Thank you Martin and the others that explained that I.C. means Internal Connection. I thought of the 4017 last night and looked up the maximum voltage of 6 volts. I was not sure if that would be enough for reliable switching but apparently it is. Thank you for the Elektor article link, I think the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Ignition delays

2020-10-29 Thread Paul Andrews
Oh. Are you also using multiplexing? In my experience that can exacerbate the problem. > On Oct 29, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Paul Andrews wrote: > >  > Also, I was reminded recently of a couple of things. Firstly that older > nixies often have a higher maintenance voltage. Secondly that the data she

[neonixie-l] Re: 14-digit nixie calculator project with clock function

2020-10-29 Thread Dekatron42
I just spotted this one: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/duktig-toy-cash-register-80256501/ maybe it could be used as a base for those who want to build a calculator with fewer digits? I do not know what it looks like inside but it seems to be space enough for the electronics. /Martin -- You r

[neonixie-l] Re: Ignition delays

2020-10-29 Thread Paul Andrews
Also, I was reminded recently of a couple of things. Firstly that older nixies often have a higher maintenance voltage. Secondly that the data sheets always recommend a minimum voltage of 200V, and the higher the better. I have certainly had tubes that refuse to perform at these low modern vol

[neonixie-l] Re: 14-digit nixie calculator project with clock function

2020-10-29 Thread newxito
The number of digits was determined by the maximum print area of my 3D printer. The software is still in progress, there are some features I would like to add: - switch between radians and degrees - fixed decimals mode, right now there is only a floating mode - padding mode with leading zeroes -

Re: [neonixie-l] Dekatron quiz!

2020-10-29 Thread guus.assm...@wolmail.nl
Hello, The 8080 processor has an instruction set, that's really logical if you write in in Octal inestead of Hex. BR/ Guus > Op 29-10-2020 03:07 schreef Charles MacDonald : > > > On 2020-10-28 7:01 p.m., Jon wrote: > > > The DK25 is the only base-8 counting tube as far as I know, which is w

[neonixie-l] Re: Amperex 8453 Counter tube

2020-10-29 Thread Dekatron42
Ronald Dekker at https://www.dos4ever.com/Z550M/Z550M.html has written an article on the development of these. There is also an article in Elektor magazine from 2009 where Ronald shows how to drive them with a CMOS CD4017, have a look here: http://gkdv.se/pub/material/electronics%20magazine%20a

Re: [neonixie-l] Dekatron quiz!

2020-10-29 Thread Jon
Yes, that was the only vague speculation I could come up with too - displaying a 3 bit 'byte' in early binary calculators or similar. But I've not found any documentation that points in that (or indeed any) direction. The obscurity of the application probably accounts for why they're as rare as

[neonixie-l] Re: Amperex 8453 Counter tube

2020-10-29 Thread Jon
8453 is the US EIA/JEDEC registration for the Philips Z550M, also found in Europe marked as ZM1050. If you search Z550M you'll have more luck. But really all you need is Ronald Dekker's comprehensive piece of historical research at https://www.dos4ever.com/Z550M/Z550M.html Jon. On Thursday, Oc

[neonixie-l] Re: 14-digit nixie calculator project with clock function

2020-10-29 Thread Richard Scales
I've just re-read this thread and really like the way that this project has developed. I think I need to make one at some point. I have no idea how one might go about programming a calculator but would love to find out about it. I'm guessing that it took a bit longer than the 2hrs you'd planned?