[neonixie-l] Re: Favourite chips...

2014-05-05 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Currently, 7-Eleven JalapeƱo Kettle Style chips: ... Oh, you mean those other kind of chips ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscrib

[neonixie-l] Re: HV PSU design based on the TPS40210

2014-05-06 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Thank you for sharing. Its a very reasonably priced chip. Only ~$1.50 in "ones-n-two-zees" ! On Monday, May 5, 2014 1:18:23 AM UTC-7, Jan Rychter wrote: > > Hi, > > I finished my HV PSU design and decided to share it as open-source > hardware, for anyone to use freely: > http://jan.rychter.com

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube clock ghosting issues

2014-05-20 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Yes, alter your timing, as David suggested. But also, those 100K resistors across the bases and emitters, of those A92s can be made smaller. Say 10K. The junction, will keep the voltage below 0.7V, so most of the current will still flow thru those junctions. Those resistors' primary purpose is

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixies INS-1 polarity?

2014-06-03 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
The lead with the arrow or bump, is the anode (+). The cathode (-) gets eaten away, so with cold cathode tubes, like gas triggers, the cathode is larger. Cathodes on tubes, like nixies and dekatrons, are restricted in size and shape, due to their specific functions. On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:

[neonixie-l] Re: A truely "high-power" schematic generator.

2014-07-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
One problem. Can't erase film. Early CAD would follow soon, so this would have a short product life. I used to be a draftsman, early in my career, and had that classic draftsman's printing hand. Now, after using computers, for decades, my handwriting is undecipherable chicken scratching. For w

[neonixie-l] Re: Jeff Thomas is no more

2014-07-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
A very sad day. He was one of the old guard that brought life back into the nixie tube, and created this hobby. It was an honor to have known him. On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:43:38 PM UTC-7, MichaelB wrote: > > This is a truly sad day. Jeff Thomas, who most of us know as the inventor > of the

[neonixie-l] Re: Extraordinary nixie/dekatron clock design

2014-07-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Wow, I like his "packaging" ! Looks like and old piece of gear. Also, take a look at the schematics. Old school "blue lines". Hand drawn, then scanned as JPGs, and a PDF ! who needs CAD/EDA !? On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:17:30 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote: > > I was sent this today by Hank - I strongly

[neonixie-l] Anita MK8 Calculator Video

2014-08-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Here's the link to a youtube video of an Anita MK8 calculator that was just restored: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-qvtiqWens The owner of this machine contacted me, a couple of months back, about dekatrons (what else). Nice to see it up and running. Operation is a tad bizarre, but it work

[neonixie-l] Accutrace inc aka pcb4u.com

2014-08-10 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Yes, they use to be my "goto" board house. I used them mostly for multilayer boards (4 or more layers), and they did very good work. I haven't used them since ~2008. Not because of anything they did, but because of my PCB needs. I've only done double sided (2 layers) since that time. The smalle

[neonixie-l] Nixies in Media

2014-08-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Here's a fun little animated video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLlLQ3LmZWU It's about a spy team. The one low level flunky named "Scout", has a nixie watch, that is shown several times in the video. Enjoy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neon

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie IM 9 Thermometers- cathode poisoning possible?

2014-08-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Even the IN-13, with the extra "hold down" cathode, has problems after running continuously over a long period. One of my friends bought one of those kits, were the glow just grows, and shrinks, alternately. Its still working after about a couple of years. But in less than a year, it would no

[neonixie-l] Re: Careful what you use to power your nixies...

2014-08-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
More on those cheap chargers / adapters. A few months ago, one apparently electrocuted a woman, in Australia: http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/06/please-dont-buy-cheap-phone-chargers-and-cables/ http://wonderfulengineering.com/cheap-chinese-phone-charger-electrocutes-woman-to-death/ And just to m

[neonixie-l] Re: IV-21 Specifications

2014-08-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I guess you have the Russian datasheet, like this one, from Dieter's site: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/nixie/dat_arch/IV-21_IV-27.pdf I don't read Russian, but they use "Ma", for mA, for currents, and "B", for V, for volts. That, and having used VFDs, it looks like the nominal filament vol

[neonixie-l] Re: Scottish Independence Referendum - In Neon

2014-08-20 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:50:46 AM UTC-7, Sgitheach wrote: > > > Grahame > Highland Scotland > > (For non-UK readers - In a few weeks we are voting in a referendum for > independence from the rest of the UK (England, Wales, N.Ireland). The > Electoral Commission is a government independant

[neonixie-l] Re: Flickering/jumping colon

2014-08-26 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I did similar on my 3rd nixie clock: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbqv51_nixie-clock-3_tech Similar circuit, too. On Friday, August 22, 2014 3:06:25 PM UTC-7, jrehwin wrote: > > A while back, we discussed making neon colons flicker by alternating their > drive polarity. > > http://www.vitr

[neonixie-l] Re: Careful what you use to power your nixies...

2014-08-26 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Cracked open one of those cheap adapters. They're based on the Power Integration LNK623. It needs a switching xfmr (custom) that has the primary, a feedback secondary, and at least one output secondary. Here are some photos:

[neonixie-l] Re: Divergence Meter

2014-09-11 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C49pbTDHgog I guess nixie tubes are a constant display technology in other time lines. Please, don't let me wake up in one, that has no dekatrons !!! On Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:19:50 AM UTC-7, Paul Parry wrote: > > Some one asked me if I can make a 'Diverge

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Tube Trouble

2014-09-13 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Sounds like cathode poisoning. This is a very important thing that everbody using nixies must know: Just as running a nixie tube with too much current, is bad. Running a nixie with too little current flowing thru it, is also a bad thing. There may not be enough current flowing thru the tube, to

[neonixie-l] Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-09-16 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Just sent out an order for a new clock kit board. Over the past two years, I had been selling a descrete logic kit, with input, from Westdave: http://threeneurons.wordpress.com/nixie-power-supply/nixie-clock-kit-6-digit-with-dekatron-pendulum/ But, I've notice the Russian 74141 prices have been

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-09-16 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Well, thank you for supplementing my hobby ! The price should be the around the same as the last one. The recurring costs, to me, are around the same. That also seems to be the "sweet spot". Raise it higher than that ($40US), and interest (meaning opening of wallets) drops off. Of course, for t

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-09-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I appreciate the input. Here's a new video, with a couple of small tweeks: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x264die_nixie5-prototype-demo-modified_tech I slowed down the dekatron 'tick' from 20mS to 28mS, so the motion becomes more constant, and those pauses shortened. There is suppose to be a

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-09-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I'm aware of this dekatron pattern, and find it really cool, even elegant. I'm a little reluctant in using it, because its that guy's signature, and I really don't want to "steal" it. On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 7:14:12 AM UTC-7, Dekatron42 wrote: > > Would it be possible to add this kind o

[neonixie-l] Re: Flip Disc Displays on Ebay

2014-09-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:57:01 PM UTC-7, celephicus wrote: > > www.ebay.com.au/itm/291244635089 > > We found a box of them! > > Tom Harris > > Is that your item ? If so, does each unit have 6 flip elements ? Meaning it can be rigged as a 6 x 30 display ? -- You received this messag

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-09-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Here is another pendulum option: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x268jq3_nixie5-varying-rate-pendulum_tech I'm thinking of using one of the jumper options, to select between this one, and the one in the last video. This one accelerates and slows down as it sweeps, mimicking a real pendulum. T

[neonixie-l] Re: POV Disk Kickstarter Project

2014-09-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
The Bob Blick one is a classic ! That one goes way back. I've seen propeller clocks go back, maybe decades. Fry's Electronics, here in California, use to sell them. The one that fits on your bike wheel is the best currently made one, in my opinion. You can even get little ones that plug in you

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: POV Disk Kickstarter Project

2014-09-20 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I think what really got me riled about crowdfunding was the Solar Roadways > project. > The annoying OZ man sums it up well at: > http://youtu.be/obS6TUVSZds > > Ximenez el cucaracha indeed. > > La cucaracha, la cucaracha, > Ya no puede caminar. > Porque le falta, porque no tiene, > Marij

[neonixie-l] Re: Pair of IV15's and some fun oscillation

2014-09-20 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Enjoy: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xf0v04_3-by-6977-dm160-magic-eye-winker_tech > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@go

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-09-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Friday, September 19, 2014 1:43:26 PM UTC-7, Chris Stalin wrote: > > You've done amazing work previous, This new adventure should be just as > good if not better. > > You mentioned RTC. How about a simple DS3231 RTC. > Nope, the old standby, the DS1307. Two reasons against the DS3231. (1)

[neonixie-l] Re: Ha ha ha, boy they weren't kidding, IN-14s suck pretty hard (I built a clock with them (n/t)

2014-09-24 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Yeah, a few more details. please. I've built a clock with IN-14s, 10 years ago, and the tubes still look new: Only wish, the wood fared better. The clock is a little too close to a window, and the morning sun, has bleac

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Rex......

2014-09-24 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Guess a field trip is in order ! Oops, that was a couple of days ago ! I guess they're carting it, from NY, back to Boston. On Sunday, September 21, 2014 1:20:25 PM UTC-7, Dekatron42 wrote: > > Just spotted this one: http://makerfaire.com/makers/nixie-rex/ & > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOo

[neonixie-l] Re: All valve/tube clock

2014-10-07 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Sweet ! Well, Grahame, it looks like you're the only guy who has made two of these puppies ! Mine is sadly, still just a pile of unfinished paper work. On Monday, October 6, 2014 7:09:38 AM UTC-7, Sgitheach wrote: > > Hi > > I have been working on a new trigger tube clock that uses the Z700U

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-09 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I'm with the other guys. There may be nothing wrong with the unit, and its operating normally. Saying warm or hot, with no real numbers really doesn't mean anything. If you have access to a thermometer with a small "pointy" probe, then get us some numbers. F or C, doesn't matter, just as long as

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-11 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Because most of the guys, that have responded, had soldering irons in their hands, when the only place they had hair, was on the top of their heads. The solder traces, and solder mask, can get a little beat up during a "rework". Also the excess of chemical residue, both flux, and whatever they

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
That's some pretty damn good work ! The only way I can see that a human got involved, is by looking at the soldering. My mother was not technical. She didn't know how any of the stuff, she worked on, functioned. But she was an meticulous old European lady, who took great pride in her work. To h

[neonixie-l] Re: An interesting power supply for Nixie tubes...

2014-10-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I'm guessing that there's a rectifier, and a resistor, under some heatshrink, in his test cord. No resistor, and he'll only be selling 4 tubes ... or maybe he started with 6 !? On Sunday,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-13 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Speaking in general terms, and not on this kit in particular: Yes, driving the FET on a boost switcher, directly from a uC IO pin, is a bad idea. Not only, are they not fully driven ON, but you can kill the uC. I've actually done it. I think Nick warned us about this, many, many years ago. Ther

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-13 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Its a 3x2 (or is it 2x3 ?) multiplexed design. There are three anode drivers, with two tubes ON, at any time. My only faults with the design, is that there are no resistors across the base to emitter, on the PNP anode drivers, and no mid-pull resistors. This means there is a possibility of "gho

[neonixie-l] Re: Ray Weisling, original founder of this group has passed away

2014-10-15 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
My condolences to his family. On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 6:31:42 AM UTC-7, Nick wrote: > > I just received this from his daughter: > > 0ctober 14, 2014 - Death of Raymond Scott Weisling > > It is with a big regret that we announce the death of beloved Mr. Raymond > Scott Weisling,... > > --

[neonixie-l] Re: Awesome new Nixie Tube Z568M Replica on Ebay

2014-10-16 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/271634824997 > > No hating on it, please(hold back negative opinions). > > How can anybody say anything bad about it !? I wish I was a better writer, because there isn't anything I can write, that can praise the dedication and hard work, to make that tube happen !

[neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-10-18 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Finally ... http://www.ebay.com/itm/251682813629 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, s

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Shameless Pre-Plug: New Clock Kit Coming Soon

2014-10-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Thank you ! I'll be kitting up a few more, in a day or two. Ran out of 8-DIP sockets, since I needed more than I have fingers and toes (and the carry bit). A batch of parts should be in tomorrow, according to the tracking info. On Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:31:03 AM UTC-7, Dennis wrote: > >

[neonixie-l] Re: LM9022 on ebay

2014-10-30 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Have to dig into the details, but I could see it. I've driven VFD filaments from the much older LM1877, before National got swallowed up by TI. Its a stereo amp, which I rigged in a "bi-phase" configuration, much like the LM4871. All these parts belonged to National. I wonder if that employee wa

Re: [neonixie-l] LM9022 on ebay

2014-11-03 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
>From reading both datasheets, the specs are so close, if not identical, they are the same part. Even the pinout is the same ! So use the LM4871. Cutting the top off of one, and looking at the guts, may not reveal anything. Chip makers periodically change the mask set of all ICs, to keep up wit

Re: [neonixie-l] LM9022 on ebay

2014-11-04 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
That's pretty definitive ! A LM9022 is a LM4871. Yes, extra brownie points, for opening one up, and the photos ! I didn't expect to see the actual part number ! An internal code, that translates to a part number, but not the actual part number. http://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Audio-ICs/Aud

Re: [neonixie-l] LM9022 on ebay

2014-11-04 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> > > Mouser has over 4000 of them. Not bad ones-n-two-zees prices. $1.42 on a > reel tape, $1.71 in a rigid tube. And a good price break if you get 10 or > more. Probably same prices at Digi-Key and Newark (Farnell). > >> >> http://www.newark.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?catalogId=150

[neonixie-l] Re: Socket alternatives for B9012

2014-11-04 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
They're not the same base as the B5092 ??? If not, then here's what I do: http://threeneurons.wordpress.com/miscellaneous-projects/improvised-tube-sockets/ I have one B9012, that I got years ago. I also have sockets for the B5092, which are also good for other nixie tubes, and dekatrons like t

[neonixie-l] Re: Socket alternatives for B9012

2014-11-04 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
You guys are right. I just found my B9012, and its an odd base. The tube that can use the same socket as B5092 (13-pin) is the ZM1050. That's Philip's pseudo pixie. I have one of those, too. The main difference, other than the base, is that the B9012 has a cathode for each numeral, while the ZM

[neonixie-l] Re: Novel Nixie Clothing

2014-11-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
> Borrowed the graphic out of a Philips (Amperex/Mullard/Valvo) datasheet, > for a ZM1000: > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group

[neonixie-l] Re: Round end-view tubes + long-life?

2014-12-03 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
You can always save the non-mercury (IN-4, ...) for non-clock nixie projects, such as a voltmeter, or sudoku game, were they are ON only for short periods. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop r

[neonixie-l] Re: davesters wish list

2014-12-06 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Boy, that's quite a pretty one ! Dave, and I had actually been discussing making our own, recently, in person. That it one technology that actually can be made in your garage. Don't have to tool up and develop the skill set required (vast understatement) to make a nixie. Though that one in the

[neonixie-l] Re: Gigantic Flip-Dot Wall Display at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES).

2015-01-15 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I just came back from the CES show, last week. I saw that display. It wasn't doing that routine though. Only a portion of it was being flipping between some test patterns. I guess they were tweeking it. On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:18:31 PM UTC-8, 5-ht wrote: > > Really large flip-dot wal

[neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

2015-02-19 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Very nice. I like the brass work ! Your "steam engine" really puts it over the top ... in a very good way ! On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 12:38:47 AM UTC-8, Paul Parry wrote: > > I Recently completed my Gemini Clock ... video clip here: > > http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qHnZ_jAoxzA&feature=yo

[neonixie-l] Nixie Thermometer

2015-02-27 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Here's a little nixie project. Its a thermometer, it has a 2-1/2 digit display, with a simple NE-2 in the 1xx position. I decide to build a decrete dual slope ADC circuit, to convert the temp voltage from a LM34 to a digital readout. Since a dual slope converter has a rising and falling ramp (w

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Thermometer

2015-02-28 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I had to think a little about that one. The easiest way to drive them, is using an NPN, with an emitter resistor, and sending the input to the base. Then the emitter will follow the base. The emitter current will follow that signal, as a function of voltage across the emitter resistor. The colle

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Thermometer

2015-02-28 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
If I use a LM35 instead of an LM34 then it will automatically be in C. What needs to be added then is an absolute value stage (precision rectifier circuit), with a sign indicator, for negative values. Both the LM34 and LM35 should be able to be rigged for negative values. -- You received this

[neonixie-l] Re: Wanted: Nick de Smith SMPS board.

2015-03-01 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I made a one off MAX1771 supply following Nick's guidelines, as best I could using thru-hole parts, and got very impressive results. Not quite, what Nick got, but still a lot of power.. > The Taylor Edge 1363/1364 are well regarded, as are those by Mike Moorrees > (aka. threeneurons) - many o

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Thermometer

2015-03-01 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
It was common practice, with 4000 CMOS. What Don Lancaster called MM Logic. MM for "Mickey Mouse". I sure hope Disney doesn't sue this forum now ! On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 7:54:04 AM UTC-8, Alex wrote: > > Nice, I particularly like the use of the 0.01uF cap to allow the resetting > of the dec

[neonixie-l] Plasma Globe Substitute

2015-03-05 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Last week, I went to the TRW Swapmeet. I met a pair of our neon buddies, Westdave, and Gary, at one of vendor booths. The vendor had a bunch of element discharge tubes. Not the regular noble gas tubes, like neon or helium, but of mostly vaporized metal, gold, mercury ... He wanted $25 a piece f

Re: [neonixie-l] Plasma Globe Substitute

2015-03-05 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
That wire has the HV on it, too. The other side of the secondary is tied low thru an NE-2. That's a BH rectifier tube in the 1st photo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [neonixie-l] Plasma Globe Substitute

2015-03-06 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Here's a schematic, and guide to winding the transformer: and a video of two tubes hooked up, at the same time, but acting like a flip-flop: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2itasi_plasma-generator-1_tech On Thursday, March 5

Re: [neonixie-l] PCBWay board house

2015-03-10 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
http://www.pcbway.com/ I'll keep that under my hat ! I've been dealing with board houses, since the 80's. Due to some of the disasters, mostly in the 80's, I've experienced, I'm always a bit gun-shy about using a new PCB fab. Good to hear, that you got good results. I got real good at zapping a

[neonixie-l] Re: Housing for nixies

2015-03-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Neat ! Where's the rest of the train set ? ;o) On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 5:29:09 AM UTC-7, Petro Vodopyan wrote: > > Beautiful piece of art. > > > http://pikabu.ru/view/podoshli_k_kontsu_dva_goda_ruchnoy_rabotyi_nad_chasami_na_gazorazryadnyikh_indikatorakh_in14_rezultat_otsenivayte_sami_315365

[neonixie-l] Re: Opened another box...

2015-03-30 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
All of my "bench" equipment was made before I graduated high school (1977). Only some of my handheld meters are relatively current, and most are cheap Chinese stuff. I have a bunch of Harbor Freight DVMs, that I simply lose. Good to see that old meter back in action ! On Thursday, March 26, 20

[neonixie-l] Re: Supertex HV* library for Diptrace or Eagle?

2015-04-16 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Are you going to put that PLCC into a socket, or solder it directly to the PCB. You can get thru-hole sockets for PLCCs. The sockets, then have pins on a 0.1" center grid. If directly soldered, I prefer the QFP over the PLCC. Yes, the pitch is narrower (0.031" versus 0.050"), but the PLCC pins

Re: [neonixie-l] Can I drive the INS-1 neon bulb with the SN74141 or KM155ID1 chip?

2015-04-18 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
If you want to light up a neon bulb, with that chip, add an extra 220K resistor. Hook it up in parallel with the neon bulb. That should keep any leakage current, when off, from hitting a level to fire the neon. On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 9:55:02 AM UTC-7, Chaos Hydra wrote: > > Thanks John!

[neonixie-l] Re: Supertex HV* library for Diptrace or Eagle?

2015-04-18 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
They have them at Mouser. Part # 806-PX-44LCC Here's the data sheet: http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/222/PXLCC-334777.pdf It doesn't show the grid pinout. I'd suggest you buy the sockets first, and ohm out the pin out, yourself. I used sockets like this, from Mill-Max, over 20 years ago. They can ha

[neonixie-l] Re: 7 digit nixie preliminary design

2015-04-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Another reason for not using an op-amp, as a comparator, in this app, is speed. Op-amps are slew-rate limited by design. Some are faster than others, but most have added limiting circuitry. In this app, you're going to be piping a serial data stream, as fast as possible. Using common op-amps (L

[neonixie-l] Re: 7 digit nixie preliminary design

2015-04-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Mouser has the 40109 in stock, in a 16 pin DIP ( 56 cents). Its not picky. Vcc can be greater than Vdd, or the other way around. In this case: Vcc = +5V, Vdd = +12V. At these voltages, I'd feel comfortable streaming upto ~1Mbps, maybe 1.5Mbps. -- You received this message because you are sub

[neonixie-l] Re: 7 digit nixie preliminary design

2015-04-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 9:56:59 AM UTC-7, threeneurons wrote: > > ... Another option, is just using common emitter transistor stages. > I threw this little circuit together, last night,

[neonixie-l] Re: Plasma Globe Substitute

2015-05-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
A few months ago, at the TRW swapmeet, we got some hollow cathode tubes. Had nothing to light them up with, so I made this circuit. A couple of days ago, Dave gave me one of his tubes. I had since added an octal socket, so I plugged in the tube and here's a photo:

[neonixie-l] Re: TRW swap going?

2015-05-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Yep, That's the big news when I was there last at the end of March. A lot of the vendors were confused. Some thought no shows until August. But the organizers have a booth near the entrance, so I asked them; last meet in August. They are trying to find another location. I wasn't at the last meet

[neonixie-l] Re: in-9 bar length

2015-05-23 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Not to sound condescending, but did you check the polarity. I find as I get older, I hook things up incorrectly, more often. In my youth (35 and under), I could wire-wrap a 30+ IC board. It would take 2 days to wire it up, and another day and a half, to do a continuity check against the schemat

[neonixie-l] Re: in-9 bar length

2015-05-25 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Both the IN-13 and IN-9, have sustain voltages ~100V. The IN-13 is fullscale at ~4.5mA, and the IN-9 at ~10mA. If you're using a 130V supply, then just hook up the most basic circuit. The supply, a limiting resistor, and the IN-9 tube. Calculate the resistor for 10mA, with 30V (the difference o

[neonixie-l] Re: in-9 bar length

2015-05-26 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
My prior post is intended to isolate the problem. The tubes, themselves, maybe defective. Follow the rule of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). If you try to test them, in a complex circuit, you can't determine what is at fault. Too many variables. Divide-and-conquer. That's why you need just the tu

[neonixie-l] Re: USA CRT-purchaser payout...

2015-06-03 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Nifty. I bought probably 3 or 4 CRT computer monitors in that time frame. All of them are long gone. None broke, but have long since been replaced with flat screen LCDs. Receipts ... tossed those out, too. The lawyers are only ones getting rich off of these class action suits. On Wednesday, Jun

[neonixie-l] Re: G10/241E, DZ10 and 11TU7 up and running!

2015-06-17 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
That 11TU7 is nice. Wish the other nomotrons were that pretty. I have a G10/241E. When I 1st received it, I ran it in a simple circuit. Not an attractive tube at all. When I was done testing it, I put it away in storage. Haven't turned it on in a couple of years. On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 9:

[neonixie-l] Re: Bach in a fugue minuets

2015-06-18 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Theme of the video ... Don't let an art or music major, hook up the lighting in your parking garage ! :) Ya know, before the video moves to the garage, it plays the same few notes, over and over, for some time. You can rig a dekatron, or nomotron, to sequence those notes. Gonna have to try it s

[neonixie-l] Re: Newest Nixie watch renderings

2015-06-18 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
So, will the USB port also be used to charge internal Li-ion batteries ? Gotta drink more beer, to get those beer cans ! On Thursday, June 18, 2015 at 12:08:21 AM UTC-7, nixiebunny wrote: > > Folks, > > I have been working on the fiddly bits of this watch design. The > waterproof USB connector

[neonixie-l] Re: MM5311 or MM5309

2015-06-20 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I just looked at the datasheets, those chips multiplex the display. That means only one 74141 needed per project. The digit select, is active low. You can use the traditional MPSA42/MPSA92 anode driver, with a simple fix. No not an inverter. Tie the bases of all the Anode MPSA42s to +5V, thru

[neonixie-l] Re: MM5311 or MM5309

2015-06-20 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Yeah, you need an inverter for the BCD though. On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 1:55:55 PM UTC-7, wb9jfr42 wrote: > > Has anyone built a clock using MM5309 or 11 chip with nixie tubes > Using BCD to a 74141 but don't seem to be able to multiplex > > i would like to use the chips that i have had for man

[neonixie-l] Re: Mood Cube For The Desk- Suggestions?

2015-06-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Years ago, I built a small cube, for a friend, as a gift. It was 2.5" or 3" to a side, and made from 1/8" white translucent acrylic. Common stuff. The light came from 4 superbright LEDs (red, yellow/amber, green, and blue). The super brite blues, and greens, just came out, so it had to be ~1995.

[neonixie-l] Re: TRW swap going?

2015-06-28 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Lastest dirt on TRW, as of the end of June 2015. A flyer was circulated at the swap meet, yesterday, from the organization (ham club) who run it. The date of the last scheduled swap meet been extended to December, as opposed to August. Unofficially, I've got some more dirt. The reason for no lo

[neonixie-l] Re: Cross reference table?

2015-06-29 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
A.J.'s site use to be: http://mysite.verizon.net/res0fab4/files/nixdat.htm But apparently, he let it lapse, as of late last year. Must have just got tired of nixies. Weird. He was at the TRW swap meet, not more than a year ago, and hung out with Westdave, and I, for a while. He was more interest

[neonixie-l] Re: Cross reference table?

2015-06-29 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Thank's for those archive sites. At least we can now see AJ's stuff again ! On a wider note, I've noticed Ake Holme's page has moved. Its now: http://www.sm5cbw.se/tubes/index.htm Also Brian Stuckey's pages don't seem to be working. At least for me: www.ineedcaffeine.com http://www.tubeclockdb

[neonixie-l] Re: TRW swap going?

2015-06-30 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I got out around the same time; 1984. The facility is located at the top end of Redondo Beach, and most of it is inside the city limits: There is a small section, which includes, or is M5 that

[neonixie-l] Re: Seven digit Nixie project

2015-07-14 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
As long as you're using a microcontroller like the PIC or AVR, and not an 8051 variant, why not use charlieplexing ? Look at page 4 in this document: http://nixietube.info/NixieTransistors.pdf In your code, you twiddle both the port and its DDR bits. It can turn only one output ON at any time.

[neonixie-l] Re: F9020 Nixies

2015-07-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I have a dud of one of those. It would be great if it had gas and worked, but no such luck. If it was working, it would be worth a lot of money. Mine is just a non-working paper weight. On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 7:43:17 AM UTC-7, Raymond Koonce wrote: > > I have an acquaintance who is looking

[neonixie-l] Re: One-Bit Digital Clock

2015-07-22 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Very Clever ! Never thought of using a "1" & "0" as an "I" & "O", though I lived in the era of typewriters, where many portables did not have a "1", or "0". You used the similar shaped letter, instead. Usually a lower case "L", for the "1". On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 1:35:02 PM UTC-7, PsyPhi

[neonixie-l] Re: F9020 Nixies

2015-07-24 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Done that. No shortage of high voltage here. No glow ... no gas ...no joy. The tube is stashed in a safe area. On Thursday, July 23, 2015 at 1:18:04 AM UTC-7, Dalibor wrote: > > Hi, try touching CRT monitor or plasma globe with the dud tube. If there > is neon, it will glow orange inside. Usuall

[neonixie-l] Re: Validate a Nixie touching a CRT display

2015-07-27 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
A plasma globe works much better. I've never tried a CRT, and all my current TVs and monitors are LCD. A few months ago, I wanted to check a tube at a friend's house, but his plasma ball was broken. I decided to make my own:

[neonixie-l] Re: Spotted at the Detroit "Makers Faire" @ "The Henry Ford" There be Nixies here!

2015-07-29 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Next to the dekatron spinners, is a box with a hole in it that says "Look" ... I don't think so On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 6:34:05 AM UTC-7, Kerry Borgne wrote: > > This years incarnation was still nice but was somewhat smaller than past > years. Among the missing was the fire breathing drago

[neonixie-l] Re: Spotted at the Detroit "Makers Faire" @ "The Henry Ford" There be Nixies here!

2015-07-31 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Just funnin. There are a few well known gags that involve a box with a hole in it. Hope you enjoy my kits. As a kid we did a lot of homemade fireworks. Most of time the went boom, if I wanted them to, or not. We put on a fireworks show, for the neighborhood, on the 4th of July. Some time in

[neonixie-l] Re: Dekatron Internet Speedometer

2015-07-31 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Neat ! I'm guessing its showing the statue of his internet connection. If it was mine, it would only show, one dot. As my "dohickie" kit, goes, its tied to a microphone, which a uC measures, to determine how many dots to sweep thru. Only one "dot" is ON at any time. You sweep back and forth, n

[neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock on Tonight's Storage Wars

2015-08-12 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Hey, that's Moses ! Haven't seen him in years. I got to mosey up to "the Valley", and see him. http://www.allspectrum.com/ I was a microbrewery, in Redlands, a couple of years ago, and the old guy, Barry, from Storage Wars drops in. He was with a friend, and they came in his friends car, but h

[neonixie-l] Re: Three videos on my Polyatron clock prototype, using Russian A-201s and Polish LC-513As.

2015-08-16 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Neat ! I assume those polyatrons are directly driving those nixies. On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 3:30:54 PM UTC-7, Dekatron42 wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've just published three new videos on my Polyatron clock prototype, just > the driving stages and some carry/set logic plus forward/reverse run

[neonixie-l] Re: Dismaland opens tomorrow

2015-08-21 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
I see Disney attorneys sharpening their halberds and battle axes. On Thursday, August 20, 2015 at 1:14:04 PM UTC-7, Nixcited delighted wrote: > > Perhaps a little off-topic, but I know some of you like funfairs and > amus

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Linear power supplies for nixies

2015-10-08 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 3:50:51 PM UTC-7, gregebert wrote: > > I dont know if it's still common practice, but many radios and small TVs > in the US in the 1960's & 1970's had a 'hot-chassis' where one side of the > AC line was connected to the metal interior chassis. Obviously, these >

[neonixie-l] Re: A-101 dekatron: Minimum anode voltage ?

2015-11-11 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
As the translation shows, 425V is the recommended minimum supply. But remember Soviet tubes seem to be spec'd conservatively. I guess they didn't want end up in the gulag ! After tinkering with them for a while, I found the A101 to be a particularly forgiving dekatron. I've run them with a 350V

[neonixie-l] Re: IV-17 tube filament voltage difference (DC drive)

2015-11-13 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Read the Noritake guide, that was previously listed. All VFDs are directly heated. No separate cathode. The filament is in between your eyes and the glowing anode/segments all the way in the back. Your problem is due to the anode cathode voltage difference not being the same for each tube. I thi

Re: [neonixie-l] this is really cool (or maybe hot)

2015-11-25 Thread 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l
Needs a bargraph: I wonder how much impact the self-heating of the clock has on the temp > reading. > And yes, the circuit does emit a little heat, so it does indicate a higher temperature then the rest of the room.

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