Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-17 Thread dave miller
is the incident about augmntd realty? or more personal? dave On Feb 16, 2012 9:14 PM, mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com wrote: thanks 4 the update. Tamiko + other Transmediale-goers have been in touch with me about this incident as well: it's not going to just fade away [thankfully]... chunks,

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-17 Thread mez breeze
not sure as yet. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:11 PM, dave miller dave.miller...@gmail.comwrote: is the incident about augmntd realty? or more personal? dave On Feb 16, 2012 9:14 PM, mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com wrote: thanks 4 the update. Tamiko + other Transmediale-goers have been in touch

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-17 Thread marc garrett
Hi Helen all, Wow - this is very much the type of behaviour of a man in a privileged position, classic top-down nonsense. Shocking that no-one at the talk commented about the situation... marc hi everyone, i spoke to tamiko today heard a bit more of the story. she was not actually

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-16 Thread helen varley jamieson
hi everyone, i spoke to tamiko today heard a bit more of the story. she was not actually presenting herself, but was in the audience at a panel on activist art when one of the panel members, who was showing tamiko's work as an example, invited her to comment on her work. her web site was

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-16 Thread mez breeze
thanks 4 the update. Tamiko + other Transmediale-goers have been in touch with me about this incident as well: it's not going to just fade away [thankfully]... chunks, mez On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:46 AM, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: hi everyone, i spoke to

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-05 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Well, this is rather thought-provoking. Aside from the offensive stance of the Director towards the whole AR practice, which could possibly be well motivated and arguable, I can't really see the point of censoring or dump an artwork being discussed during a panel at Transmediale. Did they

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-05 Thread helen varley jamieson
tamiko says that she needs to see how the situation develops before she can comment further ... On 5/02/12 7:31 AM, Rob Myers wrote: On 04/02/12 21:18, mez breeze wrote: i'm also keen to find out more about Gansig's reasoning for his offensive stance? Yes this seems really weird at face

[NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread ruth catlow
Thought this was an interesting development. Tamiko Thiel is one of the view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and critical artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a particularly hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have meant? bests

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread dave miller
thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it working, and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But also, as you say, it's

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread xDxD.vs.xDxD
hello everyone! On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, ruth catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.orgwrote: Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important media art festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored augmented reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread helen varley jamieson
it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked tamiko she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be taken off-screen is a

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread dave miller
i'd love to know more d On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked tamiko she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds like he was saying that he finds augmented

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread helen varley jamieson
i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her ask her to respond. :) On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote: i'd love to know more d On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread dave miller
thanks helen that's really kind of you d:} On 4 February 2012 15:27, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her ask her to respond. :) On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote: i'd love to know more d :) On 4 February 2012

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread Mark Hancock
I'd love to find out more as well, if we can? I do love a good open and uncensored public debate about the arts. As long as it falls within my own aesthetic and cultural paradigms without me having to open up to the possibility that there are new and emerging art forms that I might not like.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread dave miller
I've put together tons of links (on Delicious) on the subject of augmented reality - might be of interest: http://delicious.com/davemilleruk dave On 4 February 2012 15:41, Mark Hancock mark.r.hanc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to find out more as well, if we can? I do love a good open and

Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: augmented reality art termed offensive! by Transmediale Director

2012-02-04 Thread Rob Myers
On 04/02/12 21:18, mez breeze wrote: i'm also keen to find out more about Gansig's reasoning for his offensive stance? Yes this seems really weird at face value as reported. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org