Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV

2010-05-01 Thread Alan Sondheim
- > From: "Alan Sondheim" > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CIV > > >> >> >> I wonder if this isn't the result of

Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV

2010-05-01 Thread Alan Sondheim
In the US at least, design has increasingly overpowered art, in art- schools (by design, I mean the field, not designs); students are attracted to the concrete possibility of jobs, and art schools are tied, more and more, into corporate sponsorship - the most blatant example of which is the S

Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV

2010-05-01 Thread brian gibson
- Original Message - > From: "Alan Sondheim" > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" > > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CIV > > > > > > > > I wonder if t

Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV

2010-05-01 Thread manik
y 01, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CIV > > > I wonder if this isn't the result of an absent somewhat self-sustaining > art community? In NY, there are numerous venues - it's almost impossible > to get into a museum etc. (that's &q

Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV

2010-05-01 Thread dave miller
Hi Alan I'm always interested in how the art system works - can you please expand on "A big problem is the relation between art and design..." thanks dave On 1 May 2010 18:47, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > > I wonder if this isn't the result of an absent somewhat self-sustaining > art community? In N

Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV

2010-05-01 Thread Alan Sondheim
I wonder if this isn't the result of an absent somewhat self-sustaining art community? In NY, there are numerous venues - it's almost impossible to get into a museum etc. (that's "blue-chip" stuff) - but it's not difficult to set up a show somewhere, or show at a smaller space - it's a much b

[NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV

2010-05-01 Thread manik
...ART BUREAUCRACY IS EXTENSION OF CORPORATIVE *IDEA*...THEY EXISTED TO EXPLOIT RESOURCE WHICH ART MAKE TROUGH HER SHORT INDEPENDENT HISTORY/ARTIFACTS...REAL ESTATE.../ETC.../SO CALLED *AESTHETIC*AS SCIENCE IS NOTHING ELSE THAN ONE MORE PLAYGROUND FOR MARKET...ART BUREAUCRACY LIKE CLERKS BUY AN