Re: [netmod] Gen-ART IETF Last Call review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-12

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 24 May 2016, at 16:33, Dale R. Worley wrote: > > > > (I've not received some of the discussion e-mails, so I am just now > > responding.) > > > > Ladislav Lhotka writes: > >> This follows from the fact that YANG doesn't support mixed content: > >> there is no w

Re: [netmod] yang model classification

2016-05-24 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Thank you very much Dean. Yours, Joel On 5/24/16 11:42 AM, Dean Bogdanovic wrote: WG, Joel and I had an offline discussion and in order to make it more clear, a text clarification should be added to the document in which is stated that this document proposes initial elements for a taxonomy, r

Re: [netmod] yang model classification

2016-05-24 Thread Dean Bogdanovic
WG, Joel and I had an offline discussion and in order to make it more clear, a text clarification should be added to the document in which is stated that this document proposes initial elements for a taxonomy, rather than an initial taxonomy. Dean > On May 24, 2016, at 11:09 AM, Joel M. Halp

Re: [netmod] input Interface match

2016-05-24 Thread Dean Bogdanovic
Jason, > On Apr 29, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA) > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I agree that we may want to consider other metadata items and also agree they > will tend to be more implementation-specific. But rather than hold up this > base ACL model for metadata why don't we t

Re: [netmod] Gen-ART IETF Last Call review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-12

2016-05-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 24 May 2016, at 16:33, Dale R. Worley wrote: > > (I've not received some of the discussion e-mails, so I am just now > responding.) > > Ladislav Lhotka writes: >> This follows from the fact that YANG doesn't support mixed content: >> there is no way how this whitespace can be made signifi

Re: [netmod] yang model classification

2016-05-24 Thread Joel M. Halpern
I had real trouble mapping the taxonomy to the models I am familair with. ODL uses YANG models to define the persistent data and interface APIs to any and all of its internal services. These include controlling anything and everything the controller does. But the results of the YANG operatio

Re: [netmod] yang model classification

2016-05-24 Thread Dean Bogdanovic
Joel, > On Apr 24, 2016, at 9:31 PM, Joel M. Halpern wrote: > > What is the relationship between this taxonomy and the many models that do > not fit its cateogrization? > > Three examples: > Models used in ODL to generate results which may be neither network services > nor network elements.

Re: [netmod] Gen-ART IETF Last Call review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-12

2016-05-24 Thread Dale R. Worley
(I've not received some of the discussion e-mails, so I am just now responding.) Ladislav Lhotka writes: > This follows from the fact that YANG doesn't support mixed content: > there is no way how this whitespace can be made significant. It seems to me that this is the restriction that should be

Re: [netmod] compact versus iterative representation of the overall schema

2016-05-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 24 May 2016, at 15:20, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> On 24 May 2016, at 14:52, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >>> >>> Ladislav Lhotka wrote: Martin Bjorklund writes: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> On 23 May 2016, at 14:30, Lou Berger wro

Re: [netmod] Gen-ART IETF Last Call review of draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-12

2016-05-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Martin Bjorklund writes: >> >>if-feature-expr = "(" if-feature-expr ")" / >> if-feature-expr sep boolean-operator sep >>if-feature-expr / >> not-keyword sep if-feature-expr / >> identif

Re: [netmod] compact versus iterative representation of the overall schema

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 24 May 2016, at 14:52, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >> Martin Bjorklund writes: > >> > >>> Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 23 May 2016, at 14:30, Lou Berger wrote: > > > > Hi Lada, > > I looks like no one

Re: [netmod] compact versus iterative representation of the overall schema

2016-05-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 24 May 2016, at 14:52, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> Martin Bjorklund writes: >> >>> Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > On 23 May 2016, at 14:30, Lou Berger wrote: > > Hi Lada, > I looks like no one really jumped on this one -- so better late than

Re: [netmod] compact versus iterative representation of the overall schema

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > Martin Bjorklund writes: > > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >> > >> > On 23 May 2016, at 14:30, Lou Berger wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Lada, > >> >I looks like no one really jumped on this one -- so better late than > >> > never ... > >> > > >> > When looking at the que

Re: [netmod] compact versus iterative representation of the overall schema

2016-05-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Martin Bjorklund writes: > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >> > On 23 May 2016, at 14:30, Lou Berger wrote: >> > >> > Hi Lada, >> >I looks like no one really jumped on this one -- so better late than >> > never ... >> > >> > When looking at the question below, we should consider the uses cases

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 24 May 2016, at 12:04, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >> > >>> On 24 May 2016, at 10:33, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > >>> > >>> Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 24 May 2016, at 12:04, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >>> On 24 May 2016, at 10:33, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >>> >>> Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: [...] > This mixes up paths

Re: [netmod] compact versus iterative representation of the overall schema

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 23 May 2016, at 14:30, Lou Berger wrote: > > > > Hi Lada, > >I looks like no one really jumped on this one -- so better late than > > never ... > > > > When looking at the question below, we should consider the uses cases. > > I'm particularity interested (a

Re: [netmod] if-feature in default value

2016-05-24 Thread Robert Wilton
The proposed new text looks fine to me. Rob On 23/05/2016 15:08, Martin Bjorklund wrote: Hi, This comment from the Gen-ART review deserves it's own thread. gen-art> - section 7.6.4 gen-art> gen-art>The default value MUST NOT be marked with an "if-feature" statement. gen-art> [...] gen-a

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:13:04PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:33:29AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > > > > > [...]

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:33:29AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > This mixes up paths in the data tree with those in the schema

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > On 24 May 2016, at 10:33, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> This mixes up paths in the data tree with those in the schema > >>> tree. The X

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:33:29AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > This mixes up paths in the data tree with those in the schema tree. The > > > XPath expression in the "p

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
> On 24 May 2016, at 10:33, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> This mixes up paths in the data tree with those in the schema tree. The >>> XPath expression in the "path" statement is

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > [...] > > > This mixes up paths in the data tree with those in the schema tree. The > > XPath expression in the "path" statement is evaluated in the context of a > > data tree, but if the resul

Re: [netmod] leafref value space and constraint

2016-05-24 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 05:29:42PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: [...] > This mixes up paths in the data tree with those in the schema tree. The XPath > expression in the "path" statement is evaluated in the context of a data > tree, but if the result is an empty node set, then "this leaf node